fastash1

Hi all,
just wondering how much ££'s I would be looking at plus how much time to convert, ?? Is it engine out or what?

Thanks in advance

Ash

luke19790_3

fiesta turbo or late rs turbo

fastash1

What's best? I am new to this

luke19790_3

same but fiesta is easier.

depends on how much money you have, i would fit a efi inlet and then have omex ecu fitted.

fastash1

Wil that mean I don't need to change the flywheel??

luke19790_3

different ways to do it but you will need a cps, best way is with the flywheel but i have done it on the lower pulley with a 36-1 tooth wheel.

wedge07

I just bought a full fiesta rst engine. Box. Loom ecu etc everything needed then swapped engines n looms in a day on my own. Then next day plummed it and tidyed up loom n bay. Easy

Rogeyboy

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Using an OFAB or OFAC loom has another advantage in that you can upgrade to plug and play megasquirt at a later date! Which is the conversion i have gone for!

wedge07

Is megasquirt decent mate as i was lookin at upgrading from ofab. But my tuner told me to not bother n go for omex 600 even though its like double the price??

Rogeyboy

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He's told you that so he can charge you an extra fee for the ecu itself and then an extra fee to map it. IME its no better when you look at the spec sheet for each, unless someone can correct me!? Once youve plugged your OFAM ecu in, load your laptop up with tunerstudio and start mapping it yourself, everytime you make a new modification you can re-map your car to suit, and spend quality time on it aswel, mapping different loads and rpms and various boost levels etc rather than just mapping flat out throttle like most tuners would...
Check my sig out m8!

luke19790_3

i've got ms2 and for the price you can't go wrong. But omex is better if you're not going to map it or fit your self. Think more people/tuners will touch omex

wedge07

Your sig? How would i map it myself? I suppose i could get used to it easy enough?? How much u talking for ecu n loom? Or does ecu just plug in my ofab loom?my tuner quoted me 1500 for omex600 ecu n loom. Him to wire n map it??

luke19790_3

think i paid £365 from efiextra then you will need a lambda sensor think that was £165

luke19790_3

£380 from boostmonkeys, sounds goods .

wedge07

Y do i need a lambda sensor n why are they so much? Ecu sounds all good lol. Do they just plug straight in and what exact ms ecu i need

luke19790_3

cheaper than a new engine tells you the air/fuel ratio

luke19790_3

looking at that website the OFAM plugs into a EFI loom

wedge07

I get ya as im tuning it myself. But i have an air/fuel ratio gauge off my o2 sensor? Or is the one ur on about more accurite?

wedge07

Y do i need a lambda sensor n why are they so much? Ecu sounds all good lol. Do they just plug straight in and what exact ms ecu i need

luke19790_3

something like this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AEM-GAUGE-...item45eff60fa0

Rogeyboy

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You just need an AFR gauge to get an idea of how the engines fuelling whilst your mapping it.
The OFAM from boostmonkeys plugs into the EFi loom, direct plug and play (other than a vacumn line into the ecu) its £380 and will come with a basemap to get your car started and idling to a degree.
Map it yourself using "tunerstudio" its easy enough to get to grips with.

wedge07

Its settled then. Thats my next route. Only problem is i dont know what sort of psi i can put through mine without blowin summat up. Lol what sort of power can these take? Eg ofab can take 250ish?? And does this control boost control?

wedge07

Basicly i dont wanna spend 380 on a new ecu if ofab is decent n if i wont be able to tell difference?

luke19790_3

The only thing will limit things is the injectors, turbo,engine etc.

With megasquirt and omex you can make changes with the laptop and fault find.

luke19790_3

Don't think you can compare ofab and megasquirt

wedge07

lol megasquirt it is then. im goin green on my injectors n riddin of the beiges n engined tuned up alot. its just the t3 needs goin bigger

Rogeyboy

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Standard bottom end won't like much more than 230-240bhp... You can easily achieve that with OFAM and the correct turbo and injectors

mattcroft

Is the www.rsbible.co.uk website no longer up? That had a step by step guide using an efi xr3i loom and ofac with no amal valve, frst ecu and MAP. A few searches on google may help. Good luck

wedge07

I have a lightened n balanced bottom end. Forged pistons n steel rods so ill be fine haha. I used rs bible too. Ill stick with ofab for time being as its better than ofac. Then upgrade to ms. What turbo do u reckon i should go for?

mattcroft

Deffo upgrade the management if you're spending.

As for turbo, a hybrid T3 garrett i'd suggest. I highly recommend AET in Wakefield, Andy Nicholls is excellent.

wedge07

got a hybrid t3 on now bud and its already been tuned. its running 206 bhp at 15 psi but i want a bit more without upping the boost what other turbo choice have i got? and injector wise its going to have to be 803s

mattcroft

Best off talking to professionals (and i'm sure plenty of the people on here!), someone local to you or as I mentioned AET who I've had experience with, www.aet-turbos.co.uk

luke19790_3

what hybrid turbo is it? stage 2,3?

wedge07

I got told its stage 3 when bought it but i dont know much about turbos yet. Lol

luke19790_3

keep if its a stage 3, get the boost turned up after changing the injectors.

wedge07

A quick question if i put my foot down it flies up to 15 psi and then drops to 14psi? What psi do i class it as running at? And wat sort of boost can i up it too?

Rob_DOHC

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You would probably say it peaks at 15 and holds 14.

luke19790_3

you need to upgrade your injectors first

wedge07

Yeah exactly that so is it classed as boostin at 15psi?

Rob_DOHC

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I'd personally say it holds 14.