What BHP To Expect From My Cossy Managed Escort XR3i
19-12-2011, 09:35 PM
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My series 2 runs green injectors and is over 300hp, Thats on a 1600 with a T34 on 2 bar of boostyes they are easy to max out but with the correct turbo and mapping it is possible. You'll struggle to make over 300hp on a T3 though
Cheers Paul
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19-12-2011, 11:25 PM
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I will say people get too hooked up on chasing magical figures, the big 200 or 300 bhp. It'll make what it makes, as long as you enjoy driving it who cares!
Don't get wound up by people's opinions mate, it's only an Internet forum. There's too many people with an opinion on PF these days, it's taken the shine off it for me. Always looking to shoot someone down rather than being constructive. Just look at my "how to cossie breaks" thread, people just jump in and say "don't do cossie, ST170 is better" if its better, write a guide and constructively contribute not rubbish someones contribution.
The car and engine sound great though mate, get some pics up!
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20-12-2011, 08:20 AM
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35 psi on a stage 3 t3 on that engine is bollocks mate!! ANTI LAG.....really? vid please
the p8 you are you are using came from a different car....NO SHIT!! and the 35psi was there?? where was it exactly......
WHat makes the bottom end a one off?
Did David Copperfield build and tuuuuune this car?
neither xr3i or rs turbo had a cat mate...unless it is a mk 5...which is then contradicted by you saying it was originally an MFI engine.
I know a few rs turbos with efi manifold running cossie management(to be honest its been done for years).
WASSNER?? Where are you getting this from? WOSSNER make the pistons you claim you have.
PEC make the rods(not wossner).......although the link you posted says 1.6 16v zetec s conrods(not a cvh).......but it does say cvh in the description(mistake on website perhaps).
i see your copy and paste skills are coming on a treat mate.
i am looking forward to the pictures to be honest...i'd like one of your boost gauge aswell if possible..in the car not off a website.
happy christmas
Doug
p.s i thinks its time you get your facts right instead of chattin shit
the p8 you are you are using came from a different car....NO SHIT!! and the 35psi was there?? where was it exactly......
WHat makes the bottom end a one off?
Did David Copperfield build and tuuuuune this car?
neither xr3i or rs turbo had a cat mate...unless it is a mk 5...which is then contradicted by you saying it was originally an MFI engine.
I know a few rs turbos with efi manifold running cossie management(to be honest its been done for years).
WASSNER?? Where are you getting this from? WOSSNER make the pistons you claim you have.
PEC make the rods(not wossner).......although the link you posted says 1.6 16v zetec s conrods(not a cvh).......but it does say cvh in the description(mistake on website perhaps).
i see your copy and paste skills are coming on a treat mate.
i am looking forward to the pictures to be honest...i'd like one of your boost gauge aswell if possible..in the car not off a website.
happy christmas
Doug
p.s i thinks its time you get your facts right instead of chattin shit
Well put it this way mate its not a fault, they are in the car FULL STOP.
If you want to see the car running after mapping with boost guage and tacho atc then look up on youtube ford escort rs cosworth management p8 ecu, and listen mate my CAR has anti lag lol, your a joke mate, yes the P8 came from a sierra with a big spec so the boost was mapped to it before i had my map to my CVH, trust me fella your being stupid thinking im lying....just have a look on youtube also ill give you a PM with my facebook name where you will find a healthy amount of pictures of my engine lol this is going too be good.
Trust me the video your looking for after you type the description is is a picture of the cockpit with a momo steering wheel and a full wrc guage set in the centre console, the boost guage up to 60 PSI is on the drivers pillar...lol this will shut you up, BY THE WAY IN THE VIDEO I DONT PUT MY FOOT RIGHT DOWN so dont expect to see the boost to go to 25 as i was told not to floor it untill i had the correct fuel system set up, the video on there is purely for the sound and feel of it after mapping, IM LAUGHING MATE TBH im not a lier.
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HAHAHA thanks mate
20-12-2011, 08:27 AM
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[QUOTE=mentalasanything;5738231]I'm guessing by "one off bottom end" you mean bottom pulley. The "bottom end" everyone else is talking about being the block and all it's contents.
I will say people get too hooked up on chasing magical figures, the big 200 or 300 bhp. It'll make what it makes, as long as you enjoy driving it who cares!
Don't get wound up by people's opinions mate, it's only an Internet forum. There's too many people with an opinion on PF these days, it's taken the shine off it for me. Always looking to shoot someone down rather than being constructive. Just look at my "how to cossie breaks" thread, people just jump in and say "don't do cossie, ST170 is better" if its better, write a guide and constructively contribute not rubbish someones contribution.
The car and engine sound great though mate, get some pics up!!!!!
Cheers mate, this is usually my way of thinking in most things, i do have to say i am open to people pushing my buttons and cant really help it, so all im trying to do is prove im not a lier, i dont mind putting the wrong thing down by mistake but because of 2 small things i wrote incorrectly i get ripped to pieces for it, i agree with you mate,
Thanks for the compliment on the spec.
Kind Regards Rich
I will say people get too hooked up on chasing magical figures, the big 200 or 300 bhp. It'll make what it makes, as long as you enjoy driving it who cares!
Don't get wound up by people's opinions mate, it's only an Internet forum. There's too many people with an opinion on PF these days, it's taken the shine off it for me. Always looking to shoot someone down rather than being constructive. Just look at my "how to cossie breaks" thread, people just jump in and say "don't do cossie, ST170 is better" if its better, write a guide and constructively contribute not rubbish someones contribution.
The car and engine sound great though mate, get some pics up!!!!!
Cheers mate, this is usually my way of thinking in most things, i do have to say i am open to people pushing my buttons and cant really help it, so all im trying to do is prove im not a lier, i dont mind putting the wrong thing down by mistake but because of 2 small things i wrote incorrectly i get ripped to pieces for it, i agree with you mate,
Thanks for the compliment on the spec.
Kind Regards Rich
20-12-2011, 08:36 AM
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20-12-2011, 09:21 AM
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20-12-2011, 09:35 AM
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love this thread, full of inaccuracies :blub:
to the OP, seriously get a list of actual components, there are hundreds of knowledgeable people on here that know the available parts and what can and can't be done.
there is nothing new to be found in a cvh or cossie engine that hasn't been tried or tested thus far.
cosworth don't make a bottom end to mate up to a cvh head. nor do wossner make rods for a cvh or cosworth block. unlikely a t3 will do 25psi efficiently (exhaust wheel is too small).
to the OP, seriously get a list of actual components, there are hundreds of knowledgeable people on here that know the available parts and what can and can't be done.
there is nothing new to be found in a cvh or cossie engine that hasn't been tried or tested thus far.
cosworth don't make a bottom end to mate up to a cvh head. nor do wossner make rods for a cvh or cosworth block. unlikely a t3 will do 25psi efficiently (exhaust wheel is too small).
20-12-2011, 09:41 AM
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Mate, I am not saying you don't have the car or that it's cossie managed , I just think you have got the spec ' a little mixed up' shall we say. Some of the spec does not make sense, as pointed out by numerous posters on your thread. You just need to be better informed in regards to what you type mate.
Happy Christmas
Doug
P.s I don't do facebook
Happy Christmas
Doug
P.s I don't do facebook
20-12-2011, 10:25 AM
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love this thread, full of inaccuracies :blub:
to the OP, seriously get a list of actual components, there are hundreds of knowledgeable people on here that know the available parts and what can and can't be done.
there is nothing new to be found in a cvh or cossie engine that hasn't been tried or tested thus far.
cosworth don't make a bottom end to mate up to a cvh head. nor do wossner make rods for a cvh or cosworth block. unlikely a t3 will do 25psi efficiently (exhaust wheel is too small).
to the OP, seriously get a list of actual components, there are hundreds of knowledgeable people on here that know the available parts and what can and can't be done.
there is nothing new to be found in a cvh or cossie engine that hasn't been tried or tested thus far.
cosworth don't make a bottom end to mate up to a cvh head. nor do wossner make rods for a cvh or cosworth block. unlikely a t3 will do 25psi efficiently (exhaust wheel is too small).
Stage 3 T3, 360 Degree Thrust Baring - up to 280+ At 27 PSI
EsEscort RS Stg 3 hybrid 1984-91 LNB T3 55 / .48 G 1.6L P S107 TFK127 W 210-280 BHP
20-12-2011, 10:45 AM
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20-12-2011, 11:23 AM
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It won't be on the road for months yet but you shouldnt miss it if you see it, its black with a silver cage and huge NMS logos plastered all over it!
Cheers Paul
20-12-2011, 11:45 AM
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Good stuff, im near cheam village but drive through North Cheam on the way to work, My cars off the road at the moment for winter, but if you see a standard looking red rs turbo chattering its bollocks off its probably me! Used to see them every where but i haven't seen an rs turbo on the road for ages.
20-12-2011, 12:05 PM
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Stage 3 T3, 360 Degree Thrust Baring - up to 280+ At 27 PSI
EsEscort RS Stg 3 hybrid 1984-91 LNB T3 55 / .48 G 1.6L P S107 TFK127 W 210-280 BHP
Stage 3 T3, 360 Degree Thrust Baring - up to 280+ At 27 PSI
EsEscort RS Stg 3 hybrid 1984-91 LNB T3 55 / .48 G 1.6L P S107 TFK127 W 210-280 BHP
20-12-2011, 12:17 PM
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The reason why everyone's on your back is that it's a site full of 'experts' and your spec has a number of inconsistencies in it.
By making massive errors like confusing the crank pulley with the entire bottom end makes you a target for just about anyone with a basic grasp of engines.
If I were you, I'd post up some pics, and stop getting angry at everyone. There are a lot of helpful and knowledgeable people on here and if you're prepared to listen then you could learn a lot - and no offence, but you do sound like you've got a lot to learn.
22-12-2011, 12:28 PM
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i only use anti lag for about 2 mins in the past, i dont keep it on 24/7, its more if im racing than normal driving, you know the odd rip up the road for 60 seconds banging the anti lag out, i do realise that if i wanted to use anti lag 24/7 which in my opinion for a road car is a bit much....i would need to get a ALS Turbo to suit.....also the reliability of turbotechnics turbos are renowned to be of the top quality and world class workmanship and with some of the leading balancing and machining equipment in the world, its worth looking at their website to be honest, ive never had a problem with my Stage 3 H T3 turbo since i bought it years ago, still going strong and spooling like a mother fucker with sharp rapid responce that makes you laugh when you boot it.
I now have the car booked back in to the tuners to set my FPR Correctly on the fuel system, at least it will be correct and wont need touching unless i decide to go for a bigger turbo and siemens injectors.
Well see how this pans out, ill try this photo bucket thing over the weekend and get some pics up.
Cheers Rich
22-12-2011, 01:59 PM
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I'd get a few pics up, mate. Also, a bit of friendly critisism, a CTS Stage 2+ isn't rated to 500BHP. I've known them to shit themselves in a few 200BHP motors, one infact went during 100 running in miles, it's luck of the draw I'm afraid.
22-12-2011, 03:49 PM
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Wont be breaking my Gearbox with a CTS Stage 2 Plus Mate, They are rated up to 500 BHP so im as safe as houses there. no broken gear boxes for me eh !
i only use anti lag for about 2 mins in the past, i dont keep it on 24/7, its more if im racing than normal driving, you know the odd rip up the road for 60 seconds banging the anti lag out, i do realise that if i wanted to use anti lag 24/7 which in my opinion for a road car is a bit much....i would need to get a ALS Turbo to suit.....also the reliability of turbotechnics turbos are renowned to be of the top quality and world class workmanship and with some of the leading balancing and machining equipment in the world, its worth looking at their website to be honest, ive never had a problem with my Stage 3 H T3 turbo since i bought it years ago, still going strong and spooling like a mother fucker with sharp rapid responce that makes you laugh when you boot it.
I now have the car booked back in to the tuners to set my FPR Correctly on the fuel system, at least it will be correct and wont need touching unless i decide to go for a bigger turbo and siemens injectors.
Well see how this pans out, ill try this photo bucket thing over the weekend and get some pics up.
Cheers Rich
i only use anti lag for about 2 mins in the past, i dont keep it on 24/7, its more if im racing than normal driving, you know the odd rip up the road for 60 seconds banging the anti lag out, i do realise that if i wanted to use anti lag 24/7 which in my opinion for a road car is a bit much....i would need to get a ALS Turbo to suit.....also the reliability of turbotechnics turbos are renowned to be of the top quality and world class workmanship and with some of the leading balancing and machining equipment in the world, its worth looking at their website to be honest, ive never had a problem with my Stage 3 H T3 turbo since i bought it years ago, still going strong and spooling like a mother fucker with sharp rapid responce that makes you laugh when you boot it.
I now have the car booked back in to the tuners to set my FPR Correctly on the fuel system, at least it will be correct and wont need touching unless i decide to go for a bigger turbo and siemens injectors.
Well see how this pans out, ill try this photo bucket thing over the weekend and get some pics up.
Cheers Rich
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23-12-2011, 06:29 AM
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Dont know about stages but i wreck my first box in around 200bhp. After rebuilding it with new bearings and xr3 gears with stock lsd, it last me 2 years with 240bhp until i sold it. So new bearings and good oil help a lot.
23-12-2011, 10:36 PM
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This guy is clueless 500bhp for a cts 2+ you honestly have a better chance of a standard box lasting longer than one of those.
I'm sorry I like Jano and his cars but all the quoted numbers are the most outrageous unclaimed figures
I'm sorry I like Jano and his cars but all the quoted numbers are the most outrageous unclaimed figures
24-12-2011, 08:43 AM
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you only need to see his cars go to know the figures are hyped up
24-12-2011, 08:58 AM
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I thought 22PSI on a 1600CVH maxing out 803's was reasonable? TBF, he's never claimed 260BHP as an actual figure, not to me anyway, that might be something I've confussed myself with that was mentioned somewhere.
25-12-2011, 11:01 AM
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Im trying to work out how this is a "one off cvh" it just seems like another forged cvh to me nothink special. Cosworth throttle body?? So what? Thats only fitted to go with the managment your running. I broke my cts box at 240hp lol. Goin from the one pic i can see it looks like a standard fiesta turbo fuel rail and maby a cosworth regulator i (not that running a cosworth one will make any difference to power what so ever im guessing you just quote it for the cosworth name???) i realy wanna see some pics of the build of this car.
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Car blew head gasket recently, car is now at FMS for rebuild pictures will come straight from the garage, WOW its so hostile in here its unreal !!!
Ill get pics up when im at my home computer because image hosting sites are banned on my work network...be patiant gents blimey !!!!! ive got a picture of my fpr im using, be back with that in a mo
Ill get pics up when im at my home computer because image hosting sites are banned on my work network...be patiant gents blimey !!!!! ive got a picture of my fpr im using, be back with that in a mo