i do feel sorry for u and d4 as u did pay alot of money and didnt get what u payed for and they both arnt bad cars just needed puttin rite

 

i didnt pay alot at all mate but i defo would not go back to that sort of experience! all the headaches, and bullshit spec, and bullshit dyno graphs.
I think that paying that extra gets you what the car should be!

 

have a word with d4 and get another engine built so that can b rite aswell then cos i like the rest of the car but them engine bay is a told mess

 

engine bay is a joke mate! cant believe a tuner actually did that!
i think d4 wants to take the car back to them but i dont understand why? if they done such a hash job first time round, whats the chance of the job been done correctly again?
leave that to him, i told him that it would be the same spec as yours but its each to their own!

 

Same way mate, there is a short drive shaft feeding into a mount off the block (think its on the block) going into a longer shaft, so the two main drive shafts are the same length.

I have avo front coilovers and tbh i dont think they are too bad.

I ran a 14.4 1/4 with 185bhp and totally standard suspension (bar the avos) which i didn't think was too shabby for the power.

 

Your a bit of a back stabber tho, at the time you couldn't sing their praises enough. As far as im aware your car went to a fair few tuners not just them, and d4's car was already a mess to begin with.

If you and D4 weren't happy with the work why did you stick with them so long? My take on things is that if you don't know ANYTHING about cars you will get fucked around, that seems to be the case.

I've had really good experiences with tuners who have had a bad rep in the past, maybe its because i know enough not to get fobbed off, and i didn't go in and just say "I WANT 300 BRAKE" I went in and said i want X,Y,Z and this is how your going to do it.

Alternatively you could just put your brain in gear and learn how to do the work your self, not like you dont have the space.

Rob,

 

diff makes a huge difference. 99% of RST's are now running what is effectively an open diff.

 

Soo... Back to topic!?

Ive got AVO Coilovers on my Mk2 Orion with polybushes all round, series 2 front ARB and front/rear strut braces. It handles really nicely atm...

My future plans are a Ricardo LSD and adjustable rear trailing arms with a stiffer rear ARB (if i can find 1).

So im hoping the Ricardo Diff should help with the power delivery once the turbo engine's all set up.

 

lol sorry,

Never heard of Ricardo, you got a link? I've heard that several people prefer standard but good diffs to quaife etc. And one know where to get standard LSD's rebuilt, heard several people say re-jelled but im not sure if thats the right term?

Rob,

 

Stuart Collins,

What turbo/exhaust housing are you using? how the hell are you getting 360 brake @ 22psi

Rob,

 

It's a huge turbo Rob (Custom spec GT30 IIRC), I had the pleasure of seeing it when I picked a block and crank up from him the other month.

Not yet mate no, I will though, never took it to the point of det midrange so will be intersting to see what happens spool/response wise as it's already very responsive being only a .36!
Popping and banging as it's my daily would get annoying I think.... might try it for a couple of days though lol

 

I had a diff 're jelled' by CTS. People say it's not as snatchy as the Quafie and less likely to break boxes. Also doesn't the ATB need both wheels to be in contact with the road surface to work properly?

 

Ah cool cheers Muz, how much did it set you back if you don't mind me asking? Also yes torque biasing diffs need a little grip on both wheels otherwise they act as if they were an open diff. Not really too much of a problem IMO as your more likely to lift a rear wheel than a front.

Rob,

 

My ATB was very harsh on my box, although it did maintain better traction.... at the cost of a main shaft
Running a Racing Puma Viscous LSD now.

 

Lol that is BIG! Friend has a gt30 on his cosworth and its bloody massive. I did wonder how the hell he could get that power at such low boost! Still, wonder how laggy it is?

I hear you get more torque steer with an atb too.... my sister has one on her RV8 and its really nice in a rear wheel drive application.

Rob,

 

Stu's got big valves, ports, custom manifolds, high CR, and very long gearing which all helps to reduce lag so probably not that bad for it's size!

 

Pics of the bay??

 

i never used to get any on mine

 

standard valves mate, it didnt just happen its took years to get the rite bits and all workin 2gether, its not as laggy as u would think its not an off the shelf turbo it was built for this spec engine and wasnt cheap, its got 333@wheels and 315lbft atm and did feel a bit laggy on 17s but i usally run 15s or 16s and its not aprob on them , done 10.8 in the wet at brunters in jan and the timin slip from pod said 96mph in 8.6 sec and 12.7 @122 and that was with fuck all traction, did run a 3.5 finial drive but the box is now fucked, so its sat in the garage till work out aplan

 

Oh, standard valves! Very interesting, I wonder if there would be anything to gain by going bigger then? If there isnt for you then there isnt for any of us! lol

 

it still makes power so dont need to change atm, will have to see what it does when its got 2 bar in it , need to sort box out first tho

 

It was all part of the extortionate bill I received at the end of the rebuild.

 

+1

I thought D4 disappeared off the face of the earth after getting his 300bhp figure in his infamously epic thread? Did I miss something afterwards?

Apologies for the hijack, lol.

 

If your running big power and cant get it down then whats the point, even when you have done all the mods and uprated parts ? why not just run less power so you dont loose any traction still having done all the mods to the box, drive shafts, etc etc.

Also wont you have a more reliable engine.

 

You mean like in gear boost control

Rob,

 

sorry Neil I don't have any pics of the bay.
And sorry to thread crap.

 

Ricardo are a well known diff/gearbox company, they make the diffs and boxes for alot of "not so well known" supercars like Zenvo and Gumpert... I think the diff is an ATB that i have, which does require both wheels on the road but i don't tend to lift a front wheel lol!

A company called GEARS in merseyside can rebuild/modify the standard ERST LSD to make it more or less harsh etc etc...

 

+1
AVC-R FTW

 

Im so tempted to sell mine and get an AVC Karl! expensive but well worth it from what i've been told!

How does know what gear you in btw? is there a speed sensor?

Rob,

 

Do it! It's an excellent EBC!
It uses the stock speed sender on the gearbox, same as what the Fuel computer uses, rpm/speed = gear, you 'teach' it what each gear is when you first install it then you can set the start duty for each gear ie: 1st -25%, 2nd -15% and then leave 3rd 4th and 5th at 0%.
They are silly money now though, £500+ for the limited edition black one last time I looked

But the silver one would just look wrong in a RST cabin IMO....

 

I know they are a little pricey, i would have to source a speed sensor too mine doesnt have a fuel computer.

Nothing a can of satin black wouldn't fix

Rob,

 

Who built them?

 

wasnt it EP.

 

I think it was EP, but in D4's case it wasn't their fault the car turned out utter, utter shit. He wanted 300BHP on a 1600CVH, no less and that's what they gave him.

 

As far as im aware, morphs wasn't entirely their fault either. He took it to more than one tuner. And D4 was just a bellend full stop. Much easier im sure to give him a car with a massive turbo and loads of lag than to spend months doing the development work and giving him a bill he couldnt afford.

Rob,

 

Speed sender should be easy to get hold of, anything mk4 with a fuel computer had one, and the later cars with electronic speedo's too, my KA box for example came with one!
Yeah I supose you could paint it! lol

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Genuine-Ford-F...item4a9bfb4402

Thats what you want but get one from a scrappy!

 

all the development was done years ago to get 300hp from a 1600 cvh tho .

why they were fucking round with shit cams poor heads t34.63's and chargecoolers is a joke.
d4 and morph were full of shit bit time . never did see any of run at central day this year lol.

 

True, but still if i had a customer like either of them two. I would either, close down immediately to save my rep OR give them the magic 300 brake regardless of anything else and take their money. Fucking mongs.


Rob,

 

Just to clear things up with my car
It went to 1 tuner and that was it.
Then to sort out the mess went to jamsport!
Regarding taking it to mutliple tuners for work is utter shite and a good way of tuners to get out of blame.
Wont name who, as i dont have the car anymore and just put it down to a real bad experience.
i know who i will be taking my cars to from now on.

 

rob the avcr's are a great boost controller i got mine second hand and stripped it down and gave it a coat of satin black and looks factory and i got my speed sensor new from rally design think there about £30 and helps massivly in first and second to get the power down