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Old 09-05-2010, 08:30 PM
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Talking Hit the limiter in 5th tonight!

Just to see if I could!
We were out mapping with my new 630cc injectors and did a 3rd, 4th, and 5th gear run to the limiter



Top speed with my current setup...
XR3i Final drive 4.29 and 195/45/16's @ 6943rpm is 145mph
So with my previous setup...
XR2 Final drive 3.58, 205/45/17's I am 100% convinced we hit 160mph @ 6000rpm......... The car pulls to the limter in 5th, what else do I need to know?! lol

We actually had a bit of fun blowing little hoses off my inlet manifold too! I was trying to find the limit of the turbo so cranked the boost controller up and was hitting up to 34psi @ 4000rpm (then dropped like a stone to about 23psi), the hose that goes from the FPR to the TB came off and my boost gauge hose too!! lol
In the end it's peeking at 25psi and holding 23psi until 6000rpm then falling to about 19psi.

Incidentally it took 18.48sec after changing into 5th to pull from 5387rpm to 6943rpm which felt like forever!!

Car feels fast as fuck though!!

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Old 09-05-2010, 08:32 PM
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Cool whens it on the rollers? cant wait to see what its making mate! these the siemens deka jobbies?

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Old 09-05-2010, 08:37 PM
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21st mate, yup they are the Deka's, hitting only 66% duty full load WOT @ 6943rpm!
Old 09-05-2010, 08:40 PM
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hope you had fun on a private track
Old 09-05-2010, 08:42 PM
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i did this down motorway in the saph other night wiv ma mate rashawn. it was scary as, speedo off clock like

street racer for life!
Old 09-05-2010, 08:43 PM
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66% thats bloody sweet mate, plenty of head room then!
Old 09-05-2010, 08:44 PM
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top work private road i take it?
Old 09-05-2010, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by phatford
i did this down motorway in the saph other night wiv ma mate rashawn. it was scary as, speedo off clock like

street racer for life!
GankSta!
Old 09-05-2010, 08:44 PM
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Yeah next time you're on this private track let me know sounds like a good place to go!!
Old 09-05-2010, 08:47 PM
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I have a really long driveway..... lol
Old 09-05-2010, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
I have a really long driveway..... lol
better not be a gravel one!
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By the way this is the turbo i mentioned in your other thread (just being lazy and posting it here)

Ball bearing stage-3 T3

They list a number of A/R's and hosing options which is nice. Pretty expensive tho!

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Old 09-05-2010, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RSTAaron
better not be a gravel one!
You should see the stone chips!
Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
By the way this is the turbo i mentioned in your other thread (just being lazy and posting it here)

Ball bearing stage-3 T3

They list a number of A/R's and hosing options which is nice. Pretty expensive tho!

Rob,
Yeah that is a fair price mate, GT28RS is that much!
I was talking to Christian on the phone yesterday and he thinks the GT28R would be a good turbo for my setup, flow enough for high 200's and not too laggy.
Old 09-05-2010, 09:13 PM
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indeed! i think the 28r is a journal bearing turbo though? might be worth looking at some of the gt25's? pretty sure they do one that will flow for very high 200's and will a clear lag advantage

Rob,
Old 09-05-2010, 09:19 PM
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Ideal karlos glad its all going well
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Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
indeed! i think the 28r is a journal bearing turbo though? might be worth looking at some of the gt25's? pretty sure they do one that will flow for very high 200's and will a clear lag advantage

Rob,
No mate the 'R' denotes that it's ball bearing lol

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Ideal karlos glad its all going well
Cheers Milesy!
Old 09-05-2010, 09:40 PM
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Good stuff mate.....you'll be needing that gt28 fairly soon if that 34psi itch keeps gettin the better of you lol
Old 09-05-2010, 09:45 PM
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I'm happy as I am it drives really nicely, the only thing I will be fitting is a EGT probe and a new gearbox!
Old 09-05-2010, 09:48 PM
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good suff, i saw 170 on my clocks for the first time the other day too, on greens!!
Old 09-05-2010, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Karlos G
I'm happy as I am it drives really nicely, the only thing I will be fitting is a EGT probe and a new gearbox!
I was referring to the fact the turbo probably wouldn't last long tryin to puff 30+psi out lol
Old 09-05-2010, 10:04 PM
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Oh! lol
No, I'm only running 25psi peek and holding 23psi, the 34psi was just for fun!
Old 09-05-2010, 10:52 PM
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some savage boost there, scary shit.........
Old 10-05-2010, 06:07 AM
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you must be chuffed haveing done most of the work yourself! sounds like a very good engine you put together top job!
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what were your mat temps and could you post the log up again with the clt,mat, pulse width,tp,rev,map,advance and afr turned on so i could have a sneak and you'll have to teach me how you post them up so i can share mine when i finally settle on something
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Originally Posted by project rs
what were your mat temps and could you post the log up again with the clt,mat, pulse width,tp,rev,map,advance and afr turned on so i could have a sneak and you'll have to teach me how you post them up so i can share mine when i finally settle on something

FUCK THAT SOMEONE TEACH ME TO MAPP LOL
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Been a long tme since i messed with this stuff but i think if you right click you can configure smoothing onto each log trace. A little on the AFR trace would help you read it more clearly.
Old 10-05-2010, 12:02 PM
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Hi Karl, traces look good.

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Originally Posted by project rs
what were your mat temps and could you post the log up again with the clt,mat, pulse width,tp,rev,map,advance and afr turned on so i could have a sneak and you'll have to teach me how you post them up so i can share mine when i finally settle on something
Sure can!
Just hit the Print Screen button on your keyboard to take a grab of your log, then use Paint to paste it into, then upload to Photobucket.
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Been a long tme since i messed with this stuff but i think if you right click you can configure smoothing onto each log trace. A little on the AFR trace would help you read it more clearly.
Cheers Doug i'll take a peek!
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Hi Karl, traces look good.

Simon.
Thanks Simon!
Old 10-05-2010, 03:58 PM
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For project rs...


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Old 10-05-2010, 04:42 PM
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glad your haveing fun at last
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10.9 afr is fairly rich isn't it? or am i reading things wrong?

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Originally Posted by riglar
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Yes mate!
Originally Posted by Rob_DOHC
10.9 afr is fairly rich isn't it? or am i reading things wrong?

Rob,
It is yes, this was the very first run with the Deka's in.

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Old 10-05-2010, 06:19 PM
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this might be a really stuid question but on the last graph whats the clt stand for mate?
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Coolant temp in deg C.
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Interesting to see how tha MAT has little spikes as you close the throttle and stop the air flowing through the manifold.
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Yeah I was wondering about that I think it's heatsoak, as the gas velocity drops and the last of the boosted charge air is passing by it spikes, then a pocket of fresh uncompressed air enters and it drops again, followed by more boosted charge?

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heatsoak for sure, i have the same thing on mine too.
nice to know the Deka's are working well, mine haven't arrived yet
i think i may need to upgrade my map sensor at some point as i've only got a 2.5BAR one and constantly hit the ceiling on it, although i've got to fit my replacement box tomorrow, so we'll see how i get on.

good results though fella!
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Yeah a 21psi MAP is just not good enough! lol
Deka's are a great injector from what i've seen so far
Oh I paid the extra $10 for faster shipping when I ordered mine, dont know if you did that?

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yup i paid the extra (37 dollars instead of the 24 for standard), didn't order till tuesday, so should be here tomorrow, they arrived in uk two days ago.


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