midge

When the cars cold it starts straight away, but after a drive when i stop and turn it off it wont start! it will turn over once or twice really slowly, then it will jsut stop. however when it gets cold again it starts first time?

the manifold and turbo e.t.c are all standard, is there ment to be a heat shield on the starter motor? is it likely to be the starter getting cooked? or is there maybe something else? bad earth or something?

this is my first rs turbo so dont really know where to start!

gary fraser

yes mate its quite a common problem on rst you can get a heat sheild for them but you could also wrap it in heat tape same as you would a manifold

neil73

you need a new starter mate, as said above common problem

sm

new starter or recon one and a heat sheild is needed

there are 2 types of heat shield, one which fits to the bottom of the starter and one which sits above the starter and clips onto the turbo oil return pipe this is the one you need

XR2

Or a weak earth connection. Also a common problem...

teamfatboy

Bad earth to starter is the one, mine had no heat shield ever, did the same hot not starting thing went to Ford bought new leads, job done. I still don't use a heat shield either

midge

where can i get the correct heat shield? wheres is the earth on the starter? can i get to it without taking the starter out? ill have a go at cleaning it up/check if its all corroded

dave_y

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I have a starter heatshield for sale (and a starter for that matter wrapped n heat proof wrap) see my thread in RS Turbo parts for sale forum.

rstdave

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Why would a bad earth to the starter only affect it when the engine's hot?

cossiejay

mine old one did this and after changeing the starter it turned out to be valve stem oil seals

XR2

Starter will get its earth by a cable attached to one of the starter mounting screws and the bodyshell or battery. When this cable is broken/missing, the starter gets its earth via the engine. When the engine is getting hot, it looses its ability to transfer electricity, the electrical resistance gets higher when the engine gets warmer...

midge

excellent, so if i make a new starter earth going from one off the mounting bolts (goes through the box i presume?) to the body then it should be ok?

why would it be the stem seals? :S

XR2

Might be worth a try... maybe just with a jumpstart cable first time...

Had the same problem with my car. Didn't have any earth cable after relocating the battery.

T28 RST

New starter and either wrap the downpipe or get a heat blanket for the starter.

davecrook1

Where does the earth go on the starter...

davecrook1

Also where can i get a heart shield from for the starter.. Took it for an mot and wouldn't start until it was cool.. Its a recon starter too

1.9 xr2 on 40's

Beware burnt out starter cables, tuning makes the turbo hotter and it cooks the cables where they run behind it

slimwynn

this might be a bit ott but this is what i did i brought a new loom http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-escor...item5649aa746b
new starter and i wrapped it in heat wrap and i also wrapped my exhaust down pipe i don't have any probs with starting when hot any more.

oh by the way if you heat wrap your exhaust the heat wrap will smoke for till after you have done a few runs.

The metal heat shields are hard to get.

s1 turbo stu

I've got a transit connect starter 1 of the best mods I've done we'll worth the money n bolts straight up

slimwynn

Yeah I'm thinking of going down that route do need to wrap the exhaust still?

s1 turbo stu

I was gonna rap my new 1 but never got round to it and its still fine