ZVH's good and bad sides of it?
#2
Downside for me was the fact that i had to switch silly bits to s2 as the alternator bracket on the s1 bolts direct to the block so a s2 item was needed and the s1 manifold hit the block so had to change that to s2, done a 1000 miles so far and am well happy with how it drives, so much more punchy and less laggy than the cvh all depends on what youre after mate
#3
Do a search mate lots of threads arguing over if they are good or bad! lol
My 2 pence worth...........
Great for torque and will take more BHP than a CVH bottom end, but needs at least a Stage 3 big valve head, high lift cam, and big turbo to make any power after 5500rpm.
Also IMO only.... it's too expensive to get the most out of it so may as well have gone zetec turbo, and doing this MFI is a waste of time.
My 2 pence worth...........
Great for torque and will take more BHP than a CVH bottom end, but needs at least a Stage 3 big valve head, high lift cam, and big turbo to make any power after 5500rpm.
Also IMO only.... it's too expensive to get the most out of it so may as well have gone zetec turbo, and doing this MFI is a waste of time.
#4
Do a search mate lots of threads arguing over if they are good or bad! lol
My 2 pence worth...........
Great for torque and will take more BHP than a CVH bottom end, but needs at least a Stage 3 big valve head, high lift cam, and big turbo to make any power after 5500rpm.
Also IMO only.... it's too expensive to get the most out of it so may as well have gone zetec turbo, and doing this MFI is a waste of time.
My 2 pence worth...........
Great for torque and will take more BHP than a CVH bottom end, but needs at least a Stage 3 big valve head, high lift cam, and big turbo to make any power after 5500rpm.
Also IMO only.... it's too expensive to get the most out of it so may as well have gone zetec turbo, and doing this MFI is a waste of time.
few pics of the bay anyway, but its changed again since these were took the day thhe install was finished
Last edited by gaz s1; 21-09-2009 at 09:11 PM.
#5
As I said mate it's just my opinion, if you dont want mega boost or power then the whole conversion is a unnecessary as your original CVH lump will make 200bhp for far less money, and if you just want an extra 20bhp on top of that all it means is buying a Stage 3 T3 instead of a Stage 2 (might be able to do it on a Stage 2 but not guaranteed), easy!
This also requires your metering unit to be in good condition of course but so does the ZVH conversion!
This also requires your metering unit to be in good condition of course but so does the ZVH conversion!
Last edited by Karlos G; 21-09-2009 at 09:39 PM.
#6
As I said mate it's just my opinion, if you dont want mega boost or power then the whole conversion is a unnecessary as your original CVH lump will make 200bhp for far less money, and if you just want an extra 20bhp on top of that all it means is buying a Stage 3 T3 instead of a Stage 2 (might be able to do it on a Stage 2 but not guaranteed), easy!
This also requires your metering unit to be in good condition of course but so does the ZVH conversion!
This also requires your metering unit to be in good condition of course but so does the ZVH conversion!
Plus i wouldnt have done the conversion if my bottom end wasnt tired, i had to make a decision i already had most of the right bits, stace 3 head high lift cam, front mount, stage 2 hybrid etc so i decided to go zvh and im happy with the results, if i wanted 300 bhp i would have gone the full zetec plus managment and certainly wouldnt be pissing around struggling to make it with a cvh
Last edited by gaz s1; 22-09-2009 at 03:46 PM.
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#9
i've had my 1.8zvh for just over a year and a half, 11 months sat in garage lol!
from my few months driving it, it's all good.
bit of pissing around with oil returns and mounts, then you're off, more torque and bhp off less boost.
basically i had 15 psi of boost and the clutch slipped a little, when i fitted a zvh on a ported head with bigger valves and standard cam, i had to turn the boost down to 10.5psi to reduce clutch slip and it did it a bit then too.
so a comparisson of power there for you.
i'm now on efi and using a 4wd cossie turbo as this is the biggest before a t34 or gt series turbos on a 0.48 housing, basically a stage3t3 without the 360 bearing so should be fine for decent power.
also blocks are everywhere and so are cheap and not old abused units like rs blocks which are getting on now with fatigue etc.
all these people chasing big power on a 1600, sounds daft to me, up the displacement and you're so much better of from the start, cossies are 2.0 to start with, as are focus rs(mk1).
i've heard stories of 2.1 zvh's making 300bhp on 12-13psi in some cases
from my few months driving it, it's all good.
bit of pissing around with oil returns and mounts, then you're off, more torque and bhp off less boost.
basically i had 15 psi of boost and the clutch slipped a little, when i fitted a zvh on a ported head with bigger valves and standard cam, i had to turn the boost down to 10.5psi to reduce clutch slip and it did it a bit then too.
so a comparisson of power there for you.
i'm now on efi and using a 4wd cossie turbo as this is the biggest before a t34 or gt series turbos on a 0.48 housing, basically a stage3t3 without the 360 bearing so should be fine for decent power.
also blocks are everywhere and so are cheap and not old abused units like rs blocks which are getting on now with fatigue etc.
all these people chasing big power on a 1600, sounds daft to me, up the displacement and you're so much better of from the start, cossies are 2.0 to start with, as are focus rs(mk1).
i've heard stories of 2.1 zvh's making 300bhp on 12-13psi in some cases
#10
i've had my 1.8zvh for just over a year and a half, 11 months sat in garage lol!
from my few months driving it, it's all good.
bit of pissing around with oil returns and mounts, then you're off, more torque and bhp off less boost.
basically i had 15 psi of boost and the clutch slipped a little, when i fitted a zvh on a ported head with bigger valves and standard cam, i had to turn the boost down to 10.5psi to reduce clutch slip and it did it a bit then too.
so a comparisson of power there for you.
i'm now on efi and using a 4wd cossie turbo as this is the biggest before a t34 or gt series turbos on a 0.48 housing, basically a stage3t3 without the 360 bearing so should be fine for decent power.
also blocks are everywhere and so are cheap and not old abused units like rs blocks which are getting on now with fatigue etc.
all these people chasing big power on a 1600, sounds daft to me, up the displacement and you're so much better of from the start, cossies are 2.0 to start with, as are focus rs(mk1).
i've heard stories of 2.1 zvh's making 300bhp on 12-13psi in some cases
from my few months driving it, it's all good.
bit of pissing around with oil returns and mounts, then you're off, more torque and bhp off less boost.
basically i had 15 psi of boost and the clutch slipped a little, when i fitted a zvh on a ported head with bigger valves and standard cam, i had to turn the boost down to 10.5psi to reduce clutch slip and it did it a bit then too.
so a comparisson of power there for you.
i'm now on efi and using a 4wd cossie turbo as this is the biggest before a t34 or gt series turbos on a 0.48 housing, basically a stage3t3 without the 360 bearing so should be fine for decent power.
also blocks are everywhere and so are cheap and not old abused units like rs blocks which are getting on now with fatigue etc.
all these people chasing big power on a 1600, sounds daft to me, up the displacement and you're so much better of from the start, cossies are 2.0 to start with, as are focus rs(mk1).
i've heard stories of 2.1 zvh's making 300bhp on 12-13psi in some cases
#12
ZVH only worth it it you have all the good bits to the CVH already like high lift cam, stage 3 head, hybrid turbo etc
My ZVH 300 bhp @ 12 psi but its far from anything you can buy off the self its all custom
My ZVH 300 bhp @ 12 psi but its far from anything you can buy off the self its all custom
Last edited by Ford RS Enthusiast; 22-09-2009 at 12:08 PM.
#15
ZVH doesnt make any more power than a cvh from what ive seen. The most powerful and fastest rs turbos ive ever seen i.e the nms cars and christian majors are all still cvh engines. Cant see the point in spending so much money for a little bit more low down torque personally
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#18
Totally agree mate and i had all these bits already so zvh was ideal for me
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