muz

Basically it wasn't doing this the last time I had it running in the barn and is now. The car has done 0 miles.

I started the car needed throttle to start, loads of black smoke out of exhaust and oil coming out of the manifold.

orion_crazy_carl

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its either coming from the turbo or fooked piston rings i would say

Christian and Beccy

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It's not running down from your (non genuine?) rocker cover gasket, is it?

muz

I wish it was Deffo coming out between the gasket and the manifold. Think I need to do a compression test to hopefully rule out piston rings. I'd rather replace the turbo than the rings

mark2

hi
a comp test might be a bit misleading due to the fact with oil in the bores will act like a wet comp test and show a good comp as the oil will seal a bit of ring blow by if you follow me , might be a head/sump off time and pistons out to inspect the rings properly
drop the boost pipes off and look for oil in them as it might be oil seals on the turbo you will have a bit of oil in them but very very little is normal if you take the bottom boost hose off and poke somethink in the i/c to see if there is oil in there or take i/c out completely
whilst head/sump is open and the rings are gone the jobs half done with regards striping the engine for new rings
hope all is well thou
mark

muz

I really hope its the turbo I dont fancy taking the engine to bits again. I'll check for oil in the boost pipes tomorrow.

mark2

good luck
rings would be cheaper than a new turbo thou lol if i had to pick at wot was wrong i would say turbo as you said its sat for a while in the barn and gravity dont go up so if it was rings the oil that was there when it last run surely would of drained down
mark2

muz

LOL I know ring would be cheaper but the engine has been in and out 3 times and the car hasn't seen the road LOL and there's play in the turbo shaft so excuse to re build it anyway. Car didn't smoke etc when it was on the road so doubt rings have gone just being sat there whereas turbo seals could go anytime.

mark2

dont know how long it has sat but could be the control ring stuck ? does it leak from all the ex/ports or just one ?
every thought might just need a good run to clear it out
realy hope its a simple fix for you
mark2

mark2

i must be a twat so
if you have no exhaust manifold gases leaking how does oil come out the manifold, have you checked rocker gasket ( sure you have thou ) but double checked it
sorry to throw up solutions but just like to help
mark2

Karlos G

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Hmmm i'm thinking rings...... otherwise the oil from the turbo would have to come back up the manifold and force it's way out against exhaust gas presure??

Lee_R21Turbo

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Have you tasted the 'oil' thats coming out of the manifold!? Are you sure its oil & not carbon mixed with fuel? Reason I ask is that if you are seeing black smoke out of the exhaust then that would suggest overfuelling.

If it was that much oil coming out - you should be getting plumes of blue smoke. Also bear in mind that the manifold is before the turbo - so would be doubtful it would be the turbo causing the issue.

Has your oil level dropped at all?

muz

Actaully lee that might well be the case! I'd been working on it all day and it was late so was too tired to even think that.

Think I must have loosened the manifold at soem point as well as it was all tourqued up

I'll go put some hours in now and let you know that it is

xr2wishy

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i've had a similar prob on my xr2 turbo zvh, firstly i had serious overfuelling which mixed with carbon deposits casing the same sort of effect as i changed to efi on MS.
but that was compounded by my turbo dying at the same time.

muz

It is petrol Needs some new leads.

mark2

hats off to you well called
i did think turbo but i am a numpty
mark2

Karlos G

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Yeah well spotted!
The black smoke's the give away, but fuck me that must be a lot of overfuelling!!

mark2

i agree overfueling like 5 miles to the gallon lol
its when you sit back and read with a clearer head you see how simple it is to see the answer
mark2

Šhatter Box

looking at the pics your rocker cover gasket is on wrong look at the lowcating taps

muz

Its an RS1600i rocker cover so not sure they have the locating tabs I'll check.

Lee_R21Turbo

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Lee takes a bow!!! LOL

Glad you got it sorted matey anyway!!!