slimjules

hi lads thinking of reshelling my rst s2 as it needs a bit of work on rear arches and inner wings and a complete paint job so i have located a mint 1300 3dr shell just woundering is there much difference between the rst shell and a normal 1300 shell strenght wise and is it worth seem welding the 1300 shell first as i dont want it to split in half like most rst

RS 5tu

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The only difference i know of is the RS rust more

rickbartlett

some 1.3s have sunroof,some dont

Twins

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All you have to remember is that your rst will now be a 1300 with an rst lump in it as you use the id from the new shell

Ryan_3

well do the work then

B16CVH

Wheel well is shallower on the 1300

RSmark84

personally i'd get the work done on the RS shell or sell the car and buy one that doesnt need work done to it.

reshelling to a 1.3 for example should always be the last resort.

phil robson

if the new shell is totally mint i would personally go down that route, i have had one myself years ago that was rotten and spent countlees hours welding, grinding, welding, grinding etc etc

always regret not reshelling it, would have been cheaper as well i reckon

smila

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only prob is it will always be 1.3 on the books and worth less if you come to sell it

kidsRS

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Im currently reshelling my s1 as i smashed it up im keeping my old id so its still an rs on the book

slimjules

thanks for all the feedback lads would love to have the rs id but too much work to do to the shell and also iv been offered a mk3 xr3 shell last nite id love to do a rs1600i turbo replica im in two minds

orion_crazy_carl

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isnt doing that fraud

kidsRS

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It would be fraud if i was lying to the insurance company by telling them its a 1300 when it clearly wont be loves it!

timturbo

isnt that ringing it though mate?

Rs Adz

yes but it does go a lot i would only re shell as a last resort unless u wonted a sleeper

Moonstone Mart

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Good illegal way of doing it there


Mart.

scortmad

nothing illegal. Moonstone Mart glad you know what your doing

marky_g

i was in same situation reshell or restore, went donw the restore route as the car will be worth more in the long run

what ya gonna pay for a turbo replica 1500 top wack even if its rely nice

mint rst's are easy 2500 so sorta worth it

Moonstone Mart

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If you are using an ID from one shell and passing that ID off for another shell im pretty sure thats ringing however you look at it - the ID isnt for that car FACT. Unless the shell is brand new and unregistered.

This is why people selling ID plates and paperwork on ebay have the listing deleted.

If im wrong then do please explain exactly how.

Mart.

kidsRS

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Im not doing it to make a few bob its for my own use and the new shell isnt stolen and having a new id. it came without any id so im using the only one iv got if i do come to sell i will be totally honest with any one interested in it. It becomes illegal when you steel a car and change its id then sell it on knowing full well its dodgy.

FUCK EM!

Moonstone Mart

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I think its illegal already mate, whether you doing it to sell or use yourself.
I know when i buy a car i would want it to be correct, im sure many other people are the same. I dont think you'd find it easy to sell if you were honest with a potential buyer no matter how mint the car is.
Just my opinion.

Oh, if it didnt come with any ID how do you know its not been stolen at some point?


Mart

kidsRS

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Yeh i know what your saying and yes i dont know if its nicked but fuck it it keeps me busy

Karlos G

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I'm with you KidRS, if it were me I'd do exactly the same thing, at the end of the day what real difference does it make to anything?? The car is safe and not stolen so how does swapping the ID plate's make any real world difference.............. it doesnt!

Moonstone Mart

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Read his last reply, he doesnt know if the shell is stolen or not


Mart.

Karlos G

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But like I said what effect does that really have on anything?
If he somehow found out his shell was stolen would he return it to the rightful owner? Would you? Would anyone?..... Would the owner want his shell back...... 'here you go mate I belive this belongs to you?!!............. errrr thanks Pal !!' lol

It really doesnt matter does it?

Moonstone Mart

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Dunno, yeh fuck it lets all build cars and sell them on to people as genuine motors im sure the DVLA wont mind
I know this goes on and i know you will never stop it, but i would hate to buy a car and then a few years down the line discover the car/shell was stolen and now the car i paid £1000's for is now only worth £100's as its a base model shell/stolen and no one wants to buy it.


Each to their own, im happy with my conscience


Mart.

Karlos G

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Obviously you are correct if you want to be technical about it, but in the real world and this particular instance does it matter?? No.

kidsRS

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cheeRS Karlos no one would be able to trace the true id of it anyway as iv had to replace the one floor pan which has the chassis number on. Oh and yes it is a base model shell non sunroof.

Karlos G

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Exactly! It's a pointless argument really, who the fuck would want to trace a 25year old stolen base model escort shell! PMSL!
If it was a 2009 Focus RS then fair play!!

kidsRS

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I rest my case

rs shawn

If you're gonna reshell, do it properly and legally and save yourself hassle in the future - from the police, dvla and any potential buyer.

kid-rs: If it's not a gen S1 shell then it's a replica no matter what numbers are on it. Therefore it isn't worth gen S1 money even if built to a very high standard (which I'm sure it will be). There's plenty of info on the DVLA website on re-shelling if you need it.

slim-jules. Depends on you really and whether you want a proper RS or a replica. Restoring your S2 may cost you more, but it will always be a proper RS S2 if you go that route. If you can't find the DVLA info let me know &I'll point you in the right direction for you to read over and make your own choice.

Pat

Mines is a 1.3 shell.. been done properly... but no regrets and still mint 5 years after resto..

boothy

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Ive seen the perfect reg for you clive R14GER

kidsRS

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Im not arsed as i didnt pay real money for the series 1 in the first place i swapped a bag of brown for it!

boothy

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Where is it from BROWN TOWN ??

kidsRS

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Well can u remember them pics iv shown u boothy from wen i 1st got it there was no interior in as the police ripped the lot out

boothy

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Not seen them pics me howd? where did it come from ?

kidsRS

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Brown town

boothy

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oh right

kidsRS

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ur a character boothy