RabReith89

Just bought my 1st escort rs turbo s2 90spec on sat already had few 2 manny problems whit engine for my liken plus turbo has gone which aye have said in my other thread (THANKS FOR THE ADVICE ON THAT ONES) 2 words rebuild time.

Need two know a list ov whice parts aye need and prices!!

Am wantin to get her up to 200BHP after the rebuild.

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

what are the problems mate?if you want 200bhp id go with efi not mfi.really depends on what your engine spec is now,what parts are knackered.ect

RabReith89

Dont really know yet..

1. Turbo is smokein
2. Cap was popin on
3. Lil oil leak from rocker

Could be more problems for all aye know only had her for 5 days

Would just like to refresh the engine so its running tip top.

orion turbo

what is the current spec?

Raj_FRST

I would recommend speaking to ava or sitech racing, the rebuild all depends on what you are really after and how deep your pockets are, for a standard rebuild make sure you try and source as many genuine ford parts as poss, loads of possibilities as well such as zvh, 1.9 etc. I know simon smail advises when going for a zvh, use a st170 block as this comes with forged pistons as standard so they can take a bit of stck in respect of boost, A good standard rebuild would be reasonable affordable though, mahle pistons, new rods (pec h-beams £250) big/small end bearings, ford head gasket, usual other gaskets etc, if the head is ok then leave it, Best speaking to a specialist though

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

oli cap could be blocked breather, rocker cover leak is proberly just the gasket,upgrade it to a rubber siera one. and turbo could just need the seals doing.could work out alot cheaper than a full rebuild mate.or you could buy my big spec zvh t34 turbo and get some management and easily have 280bhp to play with

orion turbo

blocked breather very common prob

B16CVH

A decent 1.6 bottom end using all gen parts and more than capable of producing 200BHP will cost you around the 1k mark. All other parts such as modded head/cam etc will be ontop of this.

RabReith89

siteck lol aye bought the car from the owner simon smail off pistonheads mate

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

was it actually his car or just one he was selling for someone??

RabReith89

As he said it was his run to his work and bk paid £2300 cash for her the body work is in good nick. But the engine is just shit

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

give him a shout mate younever know he mite give it the once over for nothing as you just brought it.

PeterD

If you have a bit of disposable cash (which you wont since you have an RS) get a fucked FRST lump (with management and loom) and transfer that over, canibalise your existing engine for its T3 bits that way you have the best parts of both engines with EFI ancilaries to run it.

Failing that stickl with MFI (trust me it really is ok to stick with it, not as much to go wrong as EFI. maintain it and it generally doesnt fail) get a fifth injector, stage 3 T3 (exchange your old one), get a big valve head off here from someone (they come up regularly enough) then its just a case of sourcing some pistons and rods and a GOOD engineer to put it together and set it up. Get it built right the first time, look after it then leave it alone and enjoy it. then over time sort the rest of the car (the car will make you do this by the way lol)

Or buy an engine from somebody who's breaking theirs.

Pete

-beefy-

iTrader: (6)

so let me get this right , you bought it from simon , had it three days and its fucked ?

you been ragging it ?

did he say the motor had any issues when u bought it ?

how much you looking at spending on a rebuild fella ,as this determines everything else tbh as far as aftermarket parts ,tuning ect ,


200bhp, eaisly achived on mfi and standard 1.6

not nessacary to go zvh or st170 bottom ends blah blah ,

only issue is poor meetering heads ( that big box or pipes n lines where your airbox/filter sits ,

if your after reliability , stick to as close to standard as poss,

would always recommend a rebuild if you want carefree miles ,

but it can all soon add up

beef

RabReith89

Yea it was from simon smail the small guy, No he never said fook all bout the engine being fooked paid £2300 for it aswell.

No danger mate a drove it up the road on sat left it alone till a drove it to work on monday give it a service oil, oil filter, oil fulsh, sump kit, spark plugs, ect

sas

Hi Rab,
Sorry to hear about the ERST, you should have rung me and I would have offered some advice.

The engine has got a newly ground crank, bearings and oil pump fitted. The top end had a good set of followers and a piper cam fitted, it might benefit from some new valve stem oil seals?
Turbo,,,, well I guess it was just its time!!!!!
I did have it as my daily drive for 4 months and it has been to Manchester and back, no problems at all.

I guess I drive like a girl?

Simon.

sas

"THE SMALL GUY" thanks, kind words!

Simon.

RabReith89

Aye its a shame like just would ov thot buyin the rs from a guy who runs a tuneing company it would ov bin sound!!

Only ran the car 200miles and booted it up 5500revs a few times in 3rd gear she's in the garage the morn to see what the real problem is??

Kev H

Simon - No offence mate , but i work with Rab and have owned my share of Rs Turbo's so naturally had a good look over it when he brought it up here and was amazed to see that considering it was bought from a tuner ( yourself ) the K&N was completley loose ( just needed jub clip tightened up ), the front exhaust bracket was rattling to f**K ( was also completley loose), nearly all the rocker cover bolts were loose and as such the gasket has started to leak and considering its just had a crank etc the sump gasket was leaking to f**k aswell.

Curious, who actually carried out the work on this?

I would fire them.

RabReith89

The fuel supply hose was all bend, Oil cap popin off, There was a mix of diffrent hd leads on, Oil was black as the ace ov spades. Cant wait to see what the garage finds!!

sas

No offence to you mate either, the car was sold as £2300 daily drive not a £3500 show car.

I only sold my daily drive because we are having a baby soon, and as we own 2 RS Turbos mine had to go.

As I said in my first post Rab could have called me for help.

Simon.

RabReith89

Well if this is how your car was "DAILY RUN AROUND" hate to see the moded cars siteck has worked on.

Calling u for help was not gonna get my cash bk.

brizie

I'm sure when someone buys a car from a respected tuner they expect the car to be maintained to a lot better standard than has bin described by Kev!?

Regardless of the fact its bin used as a daily etc its your name on the line so you would think it would be in your best interest to have the car in as good shape as possible? all IMO

RabReith89

A would understand if a put ma car in "siteck" to get tuned, Then it fucked after a month or so a would be like must the drivein!!

But to buy a personal car from a guy who runs a big company "siteck" thot it would be half decent??

I know its not show car nick £3500 but for £2300 a at least expect the car to last me till the pappers come thro ma door.

Kev H

Completley agree with Bizie.

The items i pointed out would only have taken around half an hour to sort ( excluding sump gasket of course ) and are very basic things.

Simon - Mabey it would be worth giving any future car the once over before you sell it on as any resulting criticism reflects upon your buisness in my opinion.

sas

Rab, I fully understand what you are saying, I had every belief that the car was in a fit purpose. It never let me down, I had no idea the turbo would fail, the exhaust ??? and the rocker cover cap never came off with me.

Bring me the car back and I will fix any issues, its the least I can do, but you should have rang me.

I am in this buisness for the long term not to try and con people.

Simon.

RabReith89

Well a just hope ppl and aye know a have learned from this bad experiance

How can aye Simon the car wont drive, Am not causin problems, Was just expectin the car to be fine

Plus the mot is soon aswell "Cant wait" Just it was all my money a saved up

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

take it back to him mate,he is offering to sort probs and sitech are a good company.

RabReith89

How can aye mate the car is smokin more then a steam train and it dose nae get more then 2 feet whit out stallin????

Just ope simon means it when he said he will fix the problems????

Danster76

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He's doing what he can. Get it back to him, join the AA.

Separately, I am following this thread with interest but have struggled to understand your spelling at times. I guess you type like you talk hence lots of aye, nae, ma! I will try to keep up Hope you get this sorted and start enjoying it.

boothy

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deffo get it back to him, bit naughty selling a car on when its in a bad state of repair,
You would have thought the TUNER would have give it the once over!!

bigryrs

iTrader: (10)

I stay local mate so if your after any spares for the car ive always got stuff kicking about!!
get some more pics up of the car i love white 90 spec turbos

TTshell

u should of spoke to Simon before making posts like this................

RabReith89

Well not long off the phone to the garage that has just looked over the rs.... NOT good news.

Put it this way a would be cheaper buyin a 2nd hand engine then tryin to get it fixed well gutted and fell as if av bin well riped off!!

Mate posts like this if u read bk or on any ov ma posts its bin askin for advice not slagin the guy off... How would u feel if u just bout your 1st turbo car and it went bang after 200miles and 120 miles ov that was gettin home??? Am only 19 and that was every pennie aye had!!

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

that is bad news mate,shame you didnt take someone who knows bit more with you when you brought it.what are your plans now?what did the garage say the problem was then??chin up mate

RabReith89

Yea a know mate just gonna have to live and learn just hope other guys learn from my mistake

Defo keepin her not gonna give up!!

Well he said the pistons and piston rings could be fooked, Did a presure test 3 cylinders are crap 1 is fooked explans why it started to run lumpy, Really bad oil leak from the rockor cover and sump, Then he said they would have to strip the engine to make sure thats the only problems which is gonna cost more then me just buyin a 2nd hand one!!

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

be careful buying a second hand engine mate because it could be just the same if not worse than your own one.if i was you id be saving up and getting a fresh rebuild,least then you know its all fresh and good to go.just my advice,otherwise you could find yourself getting cheesed off very quickly with it.

RabReith89

Yea aye agree mate, How much u think a could pick a rebuilt one for???

zvhturbo29rs

iTrader: (7)

post a advert in the general discussion asking who would want to do a rebiuld and prices ect,sure one of the scottish lads would be happy to help or do it.if you get it done proper the first time mate you hopefully wont have a long list of problems.if not get a loan and buy my big spec zvh lol.

RabReith89

Yup gonna start huntin, Lol keep the offer in mind mate,

Got a other call off the garage cost off fittin engine £500 + vat plus engine £££???

Other problems found... The valves are fooked, Cams are fooked, Cylinder head, Timing belt was all cracked, List gose on and on err.