Pace double capacity intercooler (ERST)
11-02-2009, 10:55 PM
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don't see why not seen these on a lot of erst in the past and to get to 16psi engine doesn't have to be that modified to require anything bigger really
11-02-2009, 11:57 PM
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i used to use one on my old s2 with 16psi and its was fine but if you are planning on going for more power anytime soon then ur better off buy a full front mount intercooler instead
12-02-2009, 02:02 PM
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I have no direct experience with them but generally people say that they are almost no better than a standard IC, so anything over 14psi is going to start giving you really high ACT's.
If you have the money go full front mount then your sorted for whatever boost you want to run.
If you have the money go full front mount then your sorted for whatever boost you want to run.
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12-02-2009, 09:26 PM
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I have had them on 4 of my previous rst's running upto 14/15 psi and they were fine and the act's were fine 2, some people believe they arent very good but the majority say they are ok. As karlos says though you are probably better off buying a front mount in case in the future you want to run more boost.
12-02-2009, 09:35 PM
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Ran one when mine made 170bhp/15psi a few years back, perfect for that sort of power imo, obviously full front better if you're goin for big power.
13-02-2009, 07:55 PM
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no no no
what do u really think is fine act's?anyhin over 55 is losing power,and trust me after a few blasts its gonna over the 70's never mind the 50's,this is proven on a rolling road and i witnessed this,car ran 14psi with a pro alloy cooler,first run seen 40's acts then after 20 mins on the rollers it was in the high 70'low 80's,this was with the fan blowin full chat on the cooler,there good for std boost maybe 12psi tops but anyhin over ur riskin it
what do u really think is fine act's?anyhin over 55 is losing power,and trust me after a few blasts its gonna over the 70's never mind the 50's,this is proven on a rolling road and i witnessed this,car ran 14psi with a pro alloy cooler,first run seen 40's acts then after 20 mins on the rollers it was in the high 70'low 80's,this was with the fan blowin full chat on the cooler,there good for std boost maybe 12psi tops but anyhin over ur riskin it
15-02-2009, 05:11 PM
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pace is the nuts. i got a half pace on mine. dont listen to bullshitters saying pace is crap. thats why i know sum1 who uses pace on all the work racing cars.
15-02-2009, 05:27 PM
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theres a lot of stuff made out there that aint any good!
they have been pretty much proven to be near useless on anything but near std boost
the full fronts are so cheap,why buy one?
they have been pretty much proven to be near useless on anything but near std boost
the full fronts are so cheap,why buy one?
15-02-2009, 05:31 PM
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mate like i sed. my mates mum works for a motorsport company. they use it on every car they race and build.
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15-02-2009, 05:52 PM
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15-02-2009, 05:54 PM
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I had a Pace double capacity cooler on my car and when the boost was at 14 psi it coped but only to a certain extent! after some hard driving in 3rd,4th and 5th the act's were up in the 70's which as we all know is not good!! i would say they are ok if your only running up to 12psi but after that will start to struggle with act's.
The Pace full front intercooler is another story as these are excellent coolers and are more than capable of handling anything you can throw at them!!
The Pace full front intercooler is another story as these are excellent coolers and are more than capable of handling anything you can throw at them!!
15-02-2009, 05:56 PM
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I had a Pace double capacity cooler on my car and when the boost was at 14 psi it coped but only to a certain extent! after some hard driving in 3rd,4th and 5th the act's were up in the 70's which as we all know is not good!! i would say they are ok if your only running up to 12psi but after that will start to struggle with act's.
The Pace full front intercooler is another story as these are excellent coolers and are more than capable of handling anything you can throw at them!!
The Pace full front intercooler is another story as these are excellent coolers and are more than capable of handling anything you can throw at them!!
better then the GRS u think?
15-02-2009, 06:12 PM
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stop bitching!!!! everone is entitled to there opinion, a few have said they are ok, a few have said there not, i personally who have had 7 escort rst's and 4 fezzies with various intercoolers in them from front mounts to the pace ones to standard ones find them alright upto around the 14.5 psi/1 bar mark then you would definitly be better with a front mount and as carl says they are dirt cheap at the moment, why not invest in one?? because maybe in the future you might want a bigger turbo or cam or a big valve head in which you will have to up the boost and the pace item will be next to no good(incidently i have a pace double capacity at the mo running at 1 bar)
15-02-2009, 06:15 PM
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stop bitching!!!! everone is entitled to there opinion, a few have said they are ok, a few have said there not, i personally who have had 7 escort rst's and 4 fezzies with various intercoolers in them from front mounts to the pace ones to standard ones find them alright upto around the 14.5 psi/1 bar mark then you would definitly be better with a front mount and as carl says they are dirt cheap at the moment, why not invest in one?? because maybe in the future you might want a bigger turbo or cam or a big valve head in which you will have to up the boost and the pace item will be next to no good(incidently i have a pace double capacity at the mo running at 1 bar)
I only gave my personal opinion of the cooler,dunno why ricky is being so touchy about it
if u like them use them
15-02-2009, 06:16 PM
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the full front ones are great,seen good acts and flows well,prob better than the grs as it has a high boost drop
15-02-2009, 06:19 PM
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15-02-2009, 06:21 PM
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yep we have m8, and as i said everyone is entitled to there opinions, did you give your opinion on personal experiance of them or just what you have read??? and i do use them for what power and boost i think they are capable of running, i wouldnt personally run them on a car thats boosting at 16,17,18 psi i would buy a grs, or pro alloy like my mate has. I got no problem m8 with peoples opinions on here anymore as this site has been very helpful to me including you, karlos g, turbozvh, etc
15-02-2009, 06:25 PM
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I had one off a turbo i broke up running 18 psi behind a std bumper the ACTs were thru the roof
like i said and you say with less boost they do there job,
but the front mounts are so cheap theres no point getting one!like you say,u wanna be future proof and upgrade ya turbo or boost ect FMC are they way forward!
like i said and you say with less boost they do there job,
but the front mounts are so cheap theres no point getting one!like you say,u wanna be future proof and upgrade ya turbo or boost ect FMC are they way forward!
15-02-2009, 07:03 PM
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yeah mate,there a top piece of kit,that said there double capacity is a good peace of kit for std boost,its just when u try and run high boost thru them there shit
15-02-2009, 08:34 PM
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pace double capacity intercoolers are shit thats why there is no fast rst's using them fact.
they cannot keep the act to a safe temp so wouldnt recomend using one above 1 bar at a push. as for 17.5 psi get your acts checked mate before you damage your engine.
they cannot keep the act to a safe temp so wouldnt recomend using one above 1 bar at a push. as for 17.5 psi get your acts checked mate before you damage your engine.
15-02-2009, 11:50 PM
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well ur stranglin power,runnin 17.5psi on a dc pace is more retarded than ur ignition will be when the acts get hot 
ud prob make same or more power on less boost,i gaurentee on a flat out top speed run ud melt ur engine,i also gaurntee ud make more power on a full frontal using less boost,fact,dont need to prove any my points
ud prob make same or more power on less boost,i gaurentee on a flat out top speed run ud melt ur engine,i also gaurntee ud make more power on a full frontal using less boost,fact,dont need to prove any my points
16-02-2009, 12:41 PM
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ive just bought a single pass from airtec for my fiesta, I used to have a pace, worked perfectly well keeping the temps down at 13psi, I have upgraded due to new engine being a lot more fruity and running much more boost. The single pass is only £250 new and has had some of the best results on the market. Check out the website
16-02-2009, 05:48 PM
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its been setup by a top tuner sooo u are not right
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well ur stranglin power,runnin 17.5psi on a dc pace is more retarded than ur ignition will be when the acts get hot
ud prob make same or more power on less boost,i gaurentee on a flat out top speed run ud melt ur engine,i also gaurntee ud make more power on a full frontal using less boost,fact,dont need to prove any my points
ud prob make same or more power on less boost,i gaurentee on a flat out top speed run ud melt ur engine,i also gaurntee ud make more power on a full frontal using less boost,fact,dont need to prove any my points
its been setup by a top tuner sooo u are not right
FACT