S2 RST Roll Cages.
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11-12-2007, 05:57 PM
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get a weld in 1 imo, thats what id like to change over to and might next year if the cars gonna be kept,
not only for top speed but any accident would not be good in a 20yr old car let alone a high speed accident
do it once, do it properly mate, the prices for weld in aint as bad as youd think (well i dont think so anyway)
not only for top speed but any accident would not be good in a 20yr old car let alone a high speed accident
do it once, do it properly mate, the prices for weld in aint as bad as youd think (well i dont think so anyway)
11-12-2007, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by grey RS
Think the safety devices ones go in with the dash in place - as that's what i've been looking at
i have no sunroof, are they different? i know some cars are different with and without sunroof...
11-12-2007, 10:05 PM
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id have a weld in cage if money was no object 
i have a safety devices cage but i think i might get it welded in & bars welded to the top mounts
but the only reason i picked the safety devices is cos i didnt want to cut a good dash up but i would buy an omp bolt in cage as safety devices arent FIA approved as where omp are, but i never knew that when i baught it
i have a safety devices cage but i think i might get it welded in & bars welded to the top mounts
but the only reason i picked the safety devices is cos i didnt want to cut a good dash up but i would buy an omp bolt in cage as safety devices arent FIA approved as where omp are, but i never knew that when i baught it
11-12-2007, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
So, the OMP bolt-in one goes through the dash? Does it go through in such a way that its possible to make a nice job of it?
12-12-2007, 07:17 AM
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Ive got a Roll Centre one for my (Mk3) track car that penetrates the dash, and is FIA approved.
TBH i wasnt too impressed with the design or fit of it. The rear cage seemed slightly twisted, but i made it fit. Even then, with the feet bolted in the right places, the B-pillar hoop is about half an inch over towards the offside.
Also, i dont like where the A and B pillar feet come down- they sit on the floor a few inches in from the sill. i.e they bolt through the floor where it is at its most flimsy- not close to the sill. I sorted this by fabricating some (Roughly L-shaped) brackets that welded onto the sill, and then came out to the roll cage feet. The roll cage then bolts through these. Then i triangulated them for strength.
So now after a bit more work than originally intended i'm relatively happy with it.
I also have a Mk4 dash fitted, and wrecked one getting it to fit neatly. The second one went well though, having learnt from the first one... Where the A pillar bar comes down on the drivers side, it sort of goes through the edge of the instrument binacle. Most of the tube goes through the grey top part of the dash, but i had to take a small semi-circular cut out of the clock surround just above where the fuel computer would sit too.
Roll Centre also do a "Universal Front Triangulation Kit", which i bought and fitted. Its basically 4 lengths of un profiled tube, with some fancy bracketry. You cut and profile the tubes to suit and weld it in through the bulkhead to the turrets (Fuse box must be relocated). It then fixes to the main cage via some bolt on brackets, so the main cage can still be removed (Unbolted) if required.
No pics of any of this i'm afraid- the main cage and dash are not currently fitted as the car is upside down on a spit
Hopefully it'll be the right way up in the new year 
Sorry if the above is a bit jumbled, its early and i'm in a rush...
TBH i wasnt too impressed with the design or fit of it. The rear cage seemed slightly twisted, but i made it fit. Even then, with the feet bolted in the right places, the B-pillar hoop is about half an inch over towards the offside.
Also, i dont like where the A and B pillar feet come down- they sit on the floor a few inches in from the sill. i.e they bolt through the floor where it is at its most flimsy- not close to the sill. I sorted this by fabricating some (Roughly L-shaped) brackets that welded onto the sill, and then came out to the roll cage feet. The roll cage then bolts through these. Then i triangulated them for strength.
So now after a bit more work than originally intended i'm relatively happy with it.
I also have a Mk4 dash fitted, and wrecked one getting it to fit neatly. The second one went well though, having learnt from the first one... Where the A pillar bar comes down on the drivers side, it sort of goes through the edge of the instrument binacle. Most of the tube goes through the grey top part of the dash, but i had to take a small semi-circular cut out of the clock surround just above where the fuel computer would sit too.
Roll Centre also do a "Universal Front Triangulation Kit", which i bought and fitted. Its basically 4 lengths of un profiled tube, with some fancy bracketry. You cut and profile the tubes to suit and weld it in through the bulkhead to the turrets (Fuse box must be relocated). It then fixes to the main cage via some bolt on brackets, so the main cage can still be removed (Unbolted) if required.
No pics of any of this i'm afraid- the main cage and dash are not currently fitted as the car is upside down on a spit
Hopefully it'll be the right way up in the new year Sorry if the above is a bit jumbled, its early and i'm in a rush...
12-12-2007, 08:46 PM
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Ive been phoning around as i want a cage for my mark 4 and found a company called Chris Birbeck Rally not sure where they are but they are going to supply me a six point bolt in safty devices cage with double cross diagonal bar at the rear and door bars for Ł530 they take 6 weeks though plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently
plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently
13-12-2007, 06:34 AM
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Re: cage
Originally Posted by bad boy rs
Ive been phoning around as i want a cage for my mark 4 and found a company called Chris Birbeck Rally not sure where they are but they are going to supply me a six point bolt in safty devices cage with double cross diagonal bar at the rear and door bars for Ł530 they take 6 weeks though plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently
plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently Trouble was, Safety Devices couldnt do me one that penetrated the dash 
He also said he wouldnt bother with OMP or Sparco, for whatever reason? Could be 'cos hes a safety devices dealer
13-12-2007, 01:59 PM
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Re: cage
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Originally Posted by bad boy rs
Ive been phoning around as i want a cage for my mark 4 and found a company called Chris Birbeck Rally not sure where they are but they are going to supply me a six point bolt in safty devices cage with double cross diagonal bar at the rear and door bars for Ł530 they take 6 weeks though plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently
plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently Trouble was, Safety Devices couldnt do me one that penetrated the dash He also said he wouldnt bother with OMP or Sparco, for whatever reason? Could be 'cos hes a safety devices dealer im a boro lad and im looking for a cage lol
13-12-2007, 02:09 PM
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Re: cage
Originally Posted by beefy-rst-2
Originally Posted by Marc LJX
Originally Posted by bad boy rs
Ive been phoning around as i want a cage for my mark 4 and found a company called Chris Birbeck Rally not sure where they are but they are going to supply me a six point bolt in safty devices cage with double cross diagonal bar at the rear and door bars for Ł530 they take 6 weeks though plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently
plus it goes in with no dash mods apparently Trouble was, Safety Devices couldnt do me one that penetrated the dash He also said he wouldnt bother with OMP or Sparco, for whatever reason? Could be 'cos hes a safety devices dealer im a boro lad and im looking for a cage lol
Handy for you mate!
13-12-2007, 05:52 PM
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How far do you want to travel and how deep are your pockets?
I can get you a proper custom welded cage for about Ł1000 which aint cheap but half the price of mine.
Trust me it will work and look better than ANY of the off the shelf stuff!
How far do you want to travel and how deep are your pockets?
I can get you a proper custom welded cage for about Ł1000 which aint cheap but half the price of mine.
Trust me it will work and look better than ANY of the off the shelf stuff!
13-12-2007, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Good man Christian
Thought it was 'restored'
Originally Posted by Tony Turbo
It'll be alright, you get a good view of the road......... through the floor
Thought it was 'restored'
or least I hope so? Remember seeing at APT a couple of years back and it was
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