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Old 30-11-2007, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo
hmm thanks for the info pal but dont you think what most people are doing now sevenvally done 10 years ago makes you think. oh be careful who you point that at
AFPMSL. I take it this is 'turbos' mate?

So, Severn Valley were doing 170mph in a 1600CVH?
Old 30-11-2007, 10:40 AM
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can anyone remember sevenvally's s2 rs turbo's the balck & grey one i'm sure they both were on mfi & one was running 320 brake.
the grey 1 was 320 bhp on cossie management 1.9zvh ran 13.1 quarters
was a lot of power for 10 year's ago but this christian gezza thinks this sevenvally car was a one hit wonder
OK, come on then, what else did it do?
looked on them tsw venom's or was that the grey one
no but in all due respect it was one of the most talked about rs turbo's at the time not many were knocking out 300+ 10 YEARS back cossie management or not. just a question so dont jump on your high horse but do you think you could have done what you have with your car 10 years back without the technologly you have now???
Old 30-11-2007, 10:45 AM
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can anyone remember sevenvally's s2 rs turbo's the balck & grey one i'm sure they both were on mfi & one was running 320 brake.
the grey 1 was 320 bhp on cossie management 1.9zvh ran 13.1 quarters
was a lot of power for 10 year's ago but this christian gezza thinks this sevenvally car was a one hit wonder
OK, come on then, what else did it do?
looked on them tsw venom's or was that the grey one
no but in all due respect it was one of the most talked about rs turbo's at the time not many were knocking out 300+ 10 YEARS back cossie management or not. just a question so dont jump on your high horse but do you think you could have done what you have with your car 10 years back without the technologly you have now???
No, but the point is, did it actually make 300bhp? Or was that a dyno figure from someones 30-year-old poorly calibrated dyno?

300bhp is a much harder figure to hit than people realise and I'd be surprised if their car did it atall.
Old 30-11-2007, 10:54 AM
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this is TURBO posting sorry for my pal's input people christian steve my "work" mate has spend an arm & leg at sevenvally when he had he's rs turbo & can't stand people slaging their car's off ( dont know why they not up to much at the mo are they ) oh they put a turbo engine in a KA he's very good freind's with them so find's it hard when people take the mick out of the company think we would do the same if some folk were to talk & laugh at one of our mates. but he's on lunch now so your all safe back to the topic if you want to.
Old 30-11-2007, 11:04 AM
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To the REAL turbo - No worries, no hard feelings to you.

To the FAKE turbo - My opinions of Severn Valley come from having been involved in the RS Turbo scene for quite a few years and having attended quite a few events. I have not yet seen a Severn Valley car back up any of the claims made and like anyone that makes a claim that they can't back up, they were discredited. It's not a personal attack on Severn Valley, but as a tuner, if you make these bold claims then you need to be able to back them up, or pipe down about it.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by Red_bull
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Understand?
There is so much talk about how much bhp some one has with a set up and i couldn't explain the big differences. But now i understand

Tnx mate!
Remember also that there are ALOT of bullshit BHP figures out there too, which makes it all even more confusing.
Gotta agree 100% with Christian on this. Some rediculous figures have come out on here in the past bearing in mind the mods they have listed.

If its for a road car and not a track/race car i would concentrate more on producing the torque figures but thats just my opinion.
Old 30-11-2007, 11:18 AM
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no problem christian respect i'm off back to work & i'll make sure i log out this time
Old 30-11-2007, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo
no problem christian respect i'm off back to work & i'll make sure i log out this time
Old 30-11-2007, 11:42 AM
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Oh man,

Looks like someone who has spent a bit of £'s with severn valley is a little pissed off
Old 01-12-2007, 11:31 AM
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I used to live near to severnvalley motorsport back in the mid 90's and they were one of the main ford tuners along side turbosystems, castle and sue collins in the north west.

All the cars in question were animals - the black and grey cars i don't know the exact figures for. But according to the feature on Nathan's 300bhp car it goes something like this:

1600 cvh knife edge - custom pistons & rids
svm secret head and kent 35
MFI using a S1 ecu
charge cooler
Hybrid boosting 30psi

I would say that someone along the line told a little porky as we all know that MFI is not engineered to match 30psi.
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Also, I can't imagine ANY sort of Chargecooler being able to cool 30psi for anything more than a 0-60 sprint.

If you compare that broad spec to what mine (or indeed any other 300+bhp CVH) has, it just doesn't look possible that these cars were even 250bhp, let alone 300.
Old 01-12-2007, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
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there was a series 1 on mfi in perf ford a while back with 320bhp

with a impreza top mount cooler
Did it have 4 separate injectors controlled by an ECU too?
actually the car is in the rs turbo collectors special from perfomance ford.

spec;
8v cvh, one off custom fuel rail and braided fuel lines, k-jetronic fueling, ported & polished efi head, power enginering cam, forged 7.6-1 comp pistons, h section steel rods, en40b steel crank, wire rung block, pace chargecooler with water spray, custom made forge impreza top mount intercooler, erl water injection, grey 5th injector (mf2 mappable), superchip, blitz boost controler, -34 actuator, stage 3 hybrid t3 with .48 exh housing, magnex system

peaks 23psi , holds 22 psi 330bhp and 298lb/ft (dyno proven 300+)still on mfi



so please dont treat me like a noob because i have a lack of post on this forum iv had my fair share of fast fords.
Old 01-12-2007, 03:03 PM
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Stage 3 T3 with 0.48 housing, low comp, 330bhp at 23psi?

When Tony's doesn't do that at 30psi on a T34/0.48.
Old 01-12-2007, 03:04 PM
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Old 01-12-2007, 03:08 PM
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sorry not bitin ur head off coz im new to the site people seem to think u know jack shit coz ur new!

i just read it in the rs turbo special mag take a look.

its the one with the scooby bonnet vent and (gay) e-tec spoiler

page 48
Old 01-12-2007, 11:27 PM
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I would say a genuine 220 @ the wheels would be your max along with tweaked fuel pressure.

Anymore than that and you would be aswell with aftermarket managment.

As Christian said there is a hell of a lot of bullshit figures out there
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Originally Posted by orion turbo
sorry not bitin ur head off coz im new to the site people seem to think u know jack shit coz ur new!

i just read it in the rs turbo special mag take a look.

its the one with the scooby bonnet vent and (gay) e-tec spoiler

page 48
I know the car your on about, nice car but you will find some people add some BHP on when the mag comes to do a feature
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Originally Posted by orion turbo
sorry not bitin ur head off coz im new to the site people seem to think u know jack shit coz ur new!

i just read it in the rs turbo special mag take a look.

its the one with the scooby bonnet vent and (gay) e-tec spoiler

page 48

Dont believe everything you read
Old 02-12-2007, 05:13 PM
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its just a bit sad if people do that to be honest

or hes just had a dodgy dyno operator!
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At the end of the day you wouldn't bother using the standard MFI system on a big engine conversion especially with the price of aftermeket managements being more affordable than ever.

How much does the basic omex system good enough to setup an rst cost??
Old 02-12-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
When Tony's doesn't do that at 30psi on a T34/0.48.
Oi!


The piece of shit does fuck all at the moment.
Old 04-12-2007, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by T28 RST
I would say a genuine 220 @ the wheels would be your max along with tweaked fuel pressure.

Anymore than that and you would be aswell with aftermarket managment.

As Christian said there is a hell of a lot of bullshit figures out there
i would have to say youd get a bit more power then that.

my old s2 managed 231bhp at the wheels with out a 5th injector or raised fuel pressure all i used was a modifyed metering unit from castle performance and set at 22psi boost

so with a 5th or even 6th injector and more boost i rekon 300bhp is achievable at the fly anyway
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i think it's not only the fuell that wil limit you to get to that big amount off bhp
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Will totally depend on which rolling road you goto
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Needs to be a TUV approved one though
Old 05-12-2007, 07:45 PM
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mine was done at power engineering
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Stage 3 T3 with 0.48 housing, low comp, 330bhp at 23psi?

When Tony's doesn't do that at 30psi on a T34/0.48.
Mine makes 260 at 25psi on a stage 3 T3 with .48 so can't see how those figures can work out.

Mine's proved itself at Brunters and on a DynoDynamics rolling road so I'm happy. Must get to my Mum's and see if it's still there
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