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Old 20-05-2007 | 10:23 PM
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the kent cvh35 is a common and popular used camshaft in many s2's what would be a better option to go for in the Kent range or is it worth going down another route?
Old 20-05-2007 | 11:53 PM
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standard is best if you ask me, with the power you are running anyway.
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A few years ago i had a load of headwork done (Ported and polished but still with standard size valves), and a Kent cvh35 fitted with a vernier pulley.

IMO it wasnt worth it

Back to back RR results showed an increase of 7bhp, and the power went a little bit further up the revs.

Nothing wrong with the standard cam IMO if your only running moderate power.
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the cvh35 is designed for 1900's
the cvh34 is designed for 1600's
the effects are similar.

if you intend to use a cvh35 on a 1600 you just shift the peakpower further up the revrange,however when running big boost and bhp is what youre after,the cvh35 is the best choice.
cvh34 will give more grunt lower down the revrange/better driveability.

with a mildly tuned RST,a standard Ford cam would be the best choice.

(very)big power means high revs,where a Newman cam would be the best choice(solid lifters,requires to be setup now and then)
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for ur power level standard or CVH34....Newcam cams are also a good choice...i will be trying one out on an engine im building so will let u know of results once its in

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Im gonna go for a new std cam soon hopefully
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Im gonna go for a new std cam soon hopefully
gadgets old one runs 252hp on standard cam

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Newman for me

vroooooooooooooom pishtsh why standard
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i think the standard one is so good and if your runing under 240bhp its hard to fault. Very torquey.
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i think the standard one is so good and if your runing under 240bhp its hard to fault. Very torquey.


If the standard one is sooo good upto 240bhp, why do people spent Ł250 odd pounds on a different cam.

Why dont i have a standard cam, ive not got anymore than 240bhp
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IIRC Mark Shead mainly used to stick with a standard cam on his big(ish)power RST conversions.
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so would i gain or loss out in torque/power by replacing my cvh35 cam with a original standard cam?
with the cvh35 im producing 210@wheels, so what will be effected if change back to a standard cam?
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vroooooooooooooom pishtsh why standard
Well ive heard its a good cam still, piper/kent seem to be pish for wear etc! and I cant afford a newman with solid tappets/havent got a huge specced engine to warrent it anyway! I think the most i'll go with my car is a GRS IC, its already chipped and has -31/mongoose and maybe a get a stg3 turbo....
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
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vroooooooooooooom pishtsh why standard
Well ive heard its a good cam still, piper/kent seem to be pish for wear etc! and I cant afford a newman with solid tappets/havent got a huge specced engine to warrent it anyway! I think the most i'll go with my car is a GRS IC, its already chipped and has -31/mongoose and maybe a get a stg3 turbo....
davie my mate has got a grs,stg 3 t3 and is chipped and has now fitted andy r's old cam,its fuckin mental compared to what it was with just the grs,turbo and chip,its not finished yet but ill let you know what it make when its finished
upto 4k rpm the powers nearly the same as mine
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JamboRST, really aye? is it Andy's newman cam out the 1600? or his old piper? sounds good let me know what it makes
Wonder what a stg3 T3 would be like with a std cam? as it'll make its power higher up in the revs with the bigger exhaust housing?
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
JamboRST, really aye? is it Andy's newman cam out the 1600? or his old piper? sounds good let me know what it makes
Wonder what a stg3 T3 would be like with a std cam? as it'll make its power higher up in the revs with the bigger exhaust housing?
its the newman from the 1600 build,will let you know when its up and going again
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Jamie it just shows you how good the Newman cam's are
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so is it better for me to get a standard cam or a kent cvh35(what im running at the moment, and the tappets are VERY noisey) or other cam?
the only drawback i have with using the standard cam is that will i be lossing power at low revs?
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i wouldn't pay Ł250 for a kent cam kit, i would prefere to pay Ł100 for a std xr3i one.

But if you want to spend Ł350, Then Newmans is the best.
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from wot i've read up on the standard cam seems very capable, i've heard lots of storys o kents and piper cams lasting 5mins in the rst.
also its seem with the kent/piper types they loose some bottom end grunt for the higher revs which isn't ideal on a car that realy isn't really designed for high revs lol
only reason i'd dump the standard un is for a newman but the cost is a lot more for initially buying and setting up
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so will a standard cam be good for 200 bhp
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thhat will do for me then cheers mate dont want to waste cash if i dont have to
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got a kent cvh36 and have had no moans with that
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sorry mate but i dont think you are running 210@wheels thats a flywheel figure, defo if your car is as i saw it last with just a stage 2 chip and charge cooler etc.
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sorry mate but i dont think you are running 210@wheels thats a flywheel figure, defo if your car is as i saw it last with just a stage 2 chip and charge cooler etc.
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sorry mate but i dont think you are running 210@wheels thats a flywheel figure, defo if your car is as i saw it last with just a stage 2 chip and charge cooler etc.
i got a printout to prove gez
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what are your transmission losses?
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had it recorded at power engineering
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in that case the only wheel that is
THE FLYWHEEL
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sorry matey but having seen your car and been in it, i dont believe its running 210 ATW. The mods you have dont seem to support your claim, unless you have done something to it since. Which in that case i do appologize. I think you were running:

phase 2 chip
standard turbo
uprated cam
no fueling mods
charge cooler
cone filter
magnex zorst

I have been in 180bhp series2's that felt better than that, no offence intended but 210atw is unrealistic. Many people agree that power engineerings rollers over read considerbly compared to others.
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sorry, but PE are ott figures.
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Originally Posted by gambit
sorry matey but having seen your car and been in it, i dont believe its running 210 ATW. The mods you have dont seem to support your claim, unless you have done something to it since. Which in that case i do appologize. I think you were running:

phase 2 chip
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uprated cam
no fueling mods
charge cooler
cone filter
magnex zorst

I have been in 180bhp series2's that felt better than that, no offence intended but 210atw is unrealistic. Many people agree that power engineerings rollers over read considerbly compared to others.
took the car to torque of the devil on monday after changing my cam, i do apologize about the above but i got 180bhp at the wheels and 213 at the flywheel thats coz he told me this time and the rollers they are using are hundred times better then PE ones.
gambit when i took you in my car last it wasnt even tuned bro i even told you that.
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Fair play.


You cant get better than a Dyno Dynamic Rolling Road like at Torque of the Devil.


What boost and AFR is it running?
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18psi max mate, apparently the rollers they have are worth 80,000 from australia
chris reckons it will take around 2-3 years to pay off
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and there good for upto 2000 bhp
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You took it to the right people this time, did chris todd set your car up?? All the best with your motor mate, i knew you didnt even put your foot down but judging by the mods i knew it was not putting that out at the wheels.

Cant reccomend chris todd enough and anyone who wants a sound setup you cant do much better than chris

I hope you didnt take offence mate, its just 210 atw is a big claim i am sure you realise now.
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also does anyone know if the dyno at torque of the devil is a 4x4 one???
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