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16-12-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
There is zero det evident there at all, in fact, surprisingly, it has NEVER seen any at all. Quite rare indeed. 
I suggest you speak to whoever told you that bollox and tell them in no uncertain terms they havent a clue, and they have made you look a twat in front of 26000 people. Wounder.
Sadly, the way you are talking on this topics makes it "Sound" like Jamie or his staff told you, and thats a shame for a guy just trying to earn a living and his customers start causing him trouble with internet insinuations, so i would be apologising to him as well if i were you.
I suggest you speak to whoever told you that bollox and tell them in no uncertain terms they havent a clue, and they have made you look a twat in front of 26000 people. Wounder.
Sadly, the way you are talking on this topics makes it "Sound" like Jamie or his staff told you, and thats a shame for a guy just trying to earn a living and his customers start causing him trouble with internet insinuations, so i would be apologising to him as well if i were you.
Nothing what so ever has been said by Jamie and/or his staff so we can leave that one there for a start.
Personally i do know one side of an engine from another, Please look at the ultima GTR in my sig that i yes me helped build 18months ago
That project took 8 months of my uncle's and my spare time.
Unfortunatly most of you barry boys will never get to experience one so you will never know the work that goes in.
Next,
As for the rest of you lot that have jumped on the band wagon stop fucking brown nosing people, There is far far to much of that on site and
tbh it just shows you lot up.
Someones finger is more than likley hovering over the ban button right about now anyway.
If im not banned we will carry on this little discussion tommorrow as im off out now.
16-12-2006, 04:42 PM
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A very interesting read to say the least LOL
Christian, don't get wound up over it. Me personally i have heard nothing but good things about your work and i have every faith. I'll probably be seeing you for that RR day if it ever goes ahead.
The people on the SXOC also have lots of good things to say, my mate just recently had his Silvia mapped, i know he REALLY wanted it done by you but he just couldnt be without the car for 2 days, mainly because we are so far away.
Theres enough people that support you, disregard the few that don't. You can't win them all
LOLChristian, don't get wound up over it. Me personally i have heard nothing but good things about your work and i have every faith. I'll probably be seeing you for that RR day if it ever goes ahead.
The people on the SXOC also have lots of good things to say, my mate just recently had his Silvia mapped, i know he REALLY wanted it done by you but he just couldnt be without the car for 2 days, mainly because we are so far away.
Theres enough people that support you, disregard the few that don't. You can't win them all
16-12-2006, 04:46 PM
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Oh no, bow down to the wonder that is matt p who helped his uncle by screwing a few screws in under close supervision. Just because you alledgedly helped with the building of an Ultima, why does that give you ANY knowledge of tuning the pinnacle of 1600CVH Turbo engines?
We have all had failures, Me, Tim, Stuart, Oli etc etc, that doesn't reflect on the compentancy of the mapper as there are so many other links in the chain. The fact is that for the 7 1/2 years that I have owned this car, 5 of which it has been competitive, the Daddy Thrash this year was the first time it has been home on a recovery truck, all other times I have driven it to and from the event.
I don't really give a crap where you got your so-called knowledge, I do know that there really is only a mere handful of people with whom I have discussed the 2.4 bar thing, so it won't be too hard to find out.
Well done though, you made a class job of making yourself look a cunt.
I look forward to your reply.
We have all had failures, Me, Tim, Stuart, Oli etc etc, that doesn't reflect on the compentancy of the mapper as there are so many other links in the chain. The fact is that for the 7 1/2 years that I have owned this car, 5 of which it has been competitive, the Daddy Thrash this year was the first time it has been home on a recovery truck, all other times I have driven it to and from the event.
I don't really give a crap where you got your so-called knowledge, I do know that there really is only a mere handful of people with whom I have discussed the 2.4 bar thing, so it won't be too hard to find out.
Well done though, you made a class job of making yourself look a cunt.
I look forward to your reply.
16-12-2006, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by matt p
As for the rest of you lot that have jumped on the band wagon stop fucking brown nosing people, There is far far to much of that on site and
tbh it just shows you lot up.
Someones finger is more than likley hovering over the ban button right about now anyway.
If im not banned we will carry on this little discussion tommorrow as im off out now.
i wouldnt call it bandwagon jumping, as theres a valid point and your point, proven by your playground like insult of "you barry boys"
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16-12-2006, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by matt p
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
There is zero det evident there at all, in fact, surprisingly, it has NEVER seen any at all. Quite rare indeed.
I suggest you speak to whoever told you that bollox and tell them in no uncertain terms they havent a clue, and they have made you look a twat in front of 26000 people. Wounder.
Sadly, the way you are talking on this topics makes it "Sound" like Jamie or his staff told you, and thats a shame for a guy just trying to earn a living and his customers start causing him trouble with internet insinuations, so i would be apologising to him as well if i were you.
I suggest you speak to whoever told you that bollox and tell them in no uncertain terms they havent a clue, and they have made you look a twat in front of 26000 people. Wounder.
Sadly, the way you are talking on this topics makes it "Sound" like Jamie or his staff told you, and thats a shame for a guy just trying to earn a living and his customers start causing him trouble with internet insinuations, so i would be apologising to him as well if i were you.
Nothing what so ever has been said by Jamie and/or his staff so we can leave that one there for a start.
Personally i do know one side of an engine from another, Please look at the ultima GTR in my sig that i yes me helped build 18months ago
That project took 8 months of my uncle's and my spare time.
Unfortunatly most of you barry boys will never get to experience one so you will never know the work that goes in.
Next,
As for the rest of you lot that have jumped on the band wagon stop fucking brown nosing people, There is far far to much of that on site and
tbh it just shows you lot up.
Someones finger is more than likley hovering over the ban button right about now anyway.
If im not banned we will carry on this little discussion tommorrow as im off out now.
I rebuilt my yz250 engine when I had it. Surely by your logic that must put my knowledge of engines somewhere up there with the likes of reyland, norris, msd, mad etc?
16-12-2006, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by matt p
Right lets get this straight,
Nothing what so ever has been said by Jamie and/or his staff so we can leave that one there for a start.
Nothing what so ever has been said by Jamie and/or his staff so we can leave that one there for a start.
Personally i do know one side of an engine from another, Please look at the ultima GTR in my sig that i yes me helped build 18months ago
Someones finger is more than likley hovering over the ban button right about now anyway.
If im not banned we will carry on this little discussion tommorrow as im off out now.
16-12-2006, 05:09 PM
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what the fuck does toilet of rs turbo owners mean mate we all want the best for our cars just because we dont know everything about how they run doesnt make us idiots.
16-12-2006, 05:14 PM
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I'm sick of reading half-baked facts about numbers, prices, and management systems. I'm sick of the bias towards management x over management y. Who cares, really? Did a certain managment system call your mum fat, or insult your girlfriend? Probably not. I don't understand the defensiveness that most fanboys on here display (management system or otherwise).
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
16-12-2006, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gaz s1
what the fuck does toilet of rs turbo owners mean mate we all want the best for our cars just because we dont know everything about how they run doesnt make us idiots.
It's just unfortunate that I speak to lots of RS Turbo owners (and it's not exclusive to RS Turbo owners) that expect you to clean up the mess that they can't clean up themselves due to getting in too deep.
Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
I'm sick of reading half-baked facts about numbers, prices, and management systems. I'm sick of the bias towards management x over management y. Who cares, really? Did a certain managment system call your mum fat, or insult your girlfriend? Probably not. I don't understand the defensiveness that most fanboys on here display (management system or otherwise).
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
This thread was intended as a rare insight into what goes into a management system that we can offer, to give those that are genuinely interested an idea where their money goes. It wasn't to try and rail-road people into parting with their hard-earned.
For the record, as good as VEMS is for the money, it's not the be-all and end-all, just like all the Megasquirt variants.
The £1000 that I suggested to supply, fit and map this system is how much you would have to pay someone like A***y Motorsport to even plug their laptop into an already fitted system, let alone fully supply, fit and map it.
It was never supposed to be a vendetta against any other tuner, but look who turned it to shit. A predominance of Jamsport followers. Fact is, Jamie and I get on, well face-to-face anyway.
16-12-2006, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
I'm sick of reading half-baked facts about numbers, prices, and management systems. I'm sick of the bias towards management x over management y. Who cares, really? Did a certain managment system call your mum fat, or insult your girlfriend? Probably not. I don't understand the defensiveness that most fanboys on here display (management system or otherwise).
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
well said mate
16-12-2006, 06:12 PM
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toilet of rs turbo owners
i have 1 of them my turbo gives me sh+t i think it takes the piss some times but hay i get the brush out and clean me engine then flush with water all is well
i have 1 of them my turbo gives me sh+t i think it takes the piss some times but hay i get the brush out and clean me engine then flush with water all is well
16-12-2006, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mattyonline
toilet of rs turbo owners
i have 1 of them my turbo gives me sh+t i think it takes the piss some times but hay i get the brush out and clean me engine then flush with water all is well
i have 1 of them my turbo gives me sh+t i think it takes the piss some times but hay i get the brush out and clean me engine then flush with water all is well
16-12-2006, 06:38 PM
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I know fook all about engines, and i take my hat off to people who do it for a living, but you can get a good idea over this site how good people are when they are willing to help people out like myself by answering my stupid questions with out taking the piss !!! Christian the car looks sweet keep doing what you do as you know how good your work is !! Thats all that matters
16-12-2006, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyRST
I know fook all about engines, and i take my hat off to people who do it for a living, but you can get a good idea over this site how good people are when they are willing to help people out like myself by answering my stupid questions with out taking the piss !!! Christian the car looks sweet keep doing what you do as you know how good your work is !! Thats all that matters
16-12-2006, 06:51 PM
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Dont think matt p will be doing that sort of thing for a while 
thought everyone knew after a time BIG BOOST will kill the head
gasket
168mph some top speed that
thought everyone knew after a time BIG BOOST will kill the head
gasket
168mph some top speed that
16-12-2006, 06:59 PM
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Mr Ultima.... Nice as the car is (lovely in fact), a mechanics job is a little different from a proper tuner. You've said the engine has det'd it's head off. What makes you say this? Genuinely Interested?
16-12-2006, 07:09 PM
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To me, this ecu upgrade seems good value.
Ecu, loom, fitting, map and power read out from the best RR system there is.
But there isn't no need to start each map from scratch, as a good base map, then fully trimmed, will be quicker and just as good a full map from scratch, as long as done correctly.
Matt, i think you was in the wrong, and should just admit your comments were below the belt.
Christian, i believe i remember you mention'n about the boost and power on the std RST max bhp thread a few weeks ago,
so your hand most have many figures.
Ecu, loom, fitting, map and power read out from the best RR system there is.
But there isn't no need to start each map from scratch, as a good base map, then fully trimmed, will be quicker and just as good a full map from scratch, as long as done correctly.
Matt, i think you was in the wrong, and should just admit your comments were below the belt.
Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
I do know that there really is only a mere handful of people with whom I have discussed the 2.4 bar thing, so it won't be too hard to find out.
so your hand most have many figures.
16-12-2006, 07:17 PM
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At the end of the day as a customer you ask a company to work on your car, a company will talk you through what options you have with what work they are going to do to your car, they will try to achieve that within reason so if a customer goes home chuffed to bits with the companys work then the company is doing something right !!!
16-12-2006, 07:24 PM
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Thread turned to shit.....shame! 
How about showing us the power @ wheel figures Christian...
You know us lot and our inability to see beyond fig's being shown elsewhere
Not sure what was going on with the cam, Ive seen the Piper T285 being used to good efect on more than just a few RST's over the years
How about showing us the power @ wheel figures Christian...
You know us lot and our inability to see beyond fig's being shown elsewhere
Not sure what was going on with the cam, Ive seen the Piper T285 being used to good efect on more than just a few RST's over the years
16-12-2006, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by matt p
If im not banned we will carry on this little discussion tommorrow
I spose you also have a T-shirt that reads.....
"Don't ask as i already know it all"
Dont come to a gun fight with a knife! Get ya facts right before engaging mouth
or the warrior fingers in your case
Originally Posted by MattyRST
I know fook all about engines, and i take my hat off to people who do it for a living, but you can get a good idea over this site how good people are when they are willing to help people out like myself by answering my stupid questions with out taking the piss !!! Christian the car looks sweet keep doing what you do as you know how good your work is !! Thats all that matters
16-12-2006, 07:49 PM
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i have too, you just cannot rely on the cam being ground to spec.
Every cam i fit, i measure the phaising on each cylinder. Takes an age, but is a must
Every cam i fit, i measure the phaising on each cylinder. Takes an age, but is a must
16-12-2006, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Det?? I see none.
Det?? I see none.
Ok its all good
But How do we know these pictures are from the lateset strip down?
16-12-2006, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by throttlebodiedzetecturbo
But How do we know these pictures are from the lateset strip down?
Whats with the daft faces????
its a valid question. im not saying they are not but they could be from nineteen 0 spit
16-12-2006, 08:25 PM
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Thats just stirring it up again!?!
How is Christian to prove they are the pictures he says they are.........do you want video footage of the head being taken off the car.........
How is Christian to prove they are the pictures he says they are.........do you want video footage of the head being taken off the car.........
16-12-2006, 08:29 PM
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hows it stirring it up im just stating that every one claims matt p is talking boolox becuase christian has put 2 pics up.....
them pics might not even be his engine on the other hand they could well be his....
i personally dont care if ther r or they arn't its not going to affect me in the slighestit just seems unfair that matt p is talking bollox because of 2 pictures
them pics might not even be his engine on the other hand they could well be his....
i personally dont care if ther r or they arn't its not going to affect me in the slighestit just seems unfair that matt p is talking bollox because of 2 pictures
16-12-2006, 08:29 PM
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ROFL
Knowing there is someone out there with less knowledge in engines then me makes me feel better.
And jesus christ Christian, have a beer or something and chill out
Knowing there is someone out there with less knowledge in engines then me makes me feel better.
And jesus christ Christian, have a beer or something and chill out
16-12-2006, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by gaz s1
what the fuck does toilet of rs turbo owners mean mate we all want the best for our cars just because we dont know everything about how they run doesnt make us idiots.
Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
I'm sick of reading half-baked facts about numbers, prices, and management systems. I'm sick of the bias towards management x over management y. Who cares, really? Did a certain managment system call your mum fat, or insult your girlfriend? Probably not. I don't understand the defensiveness that most fanboys on here display (management system or otherwise).
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
The greater the available choices the better for the consumer.. simple as really
This thread was intended as a rare insight into what goes into a management system that we can offer, to give those that are genuinely interested an idea where their money goes. It wasn't to try and rail-road people into parting with their hard-earned.
For the record, as good as VEMS is for the money, it's not the be-all and end-all, just like all the Megasquirt variants.
The £1000 that I suggested to supply, fit and map this system is how much you would have to pay someone like A***y Motorsport to even plug their laptop into an already fitted system, let alone fully supply, fit and map it.
I am getting new management on my turbo and having done the research I have made my choice, yet when I express this in a discussion the reaction I recieve is a little bizzar and often similar to that displayed by religious zelots.
Im not sure why people react in the manner you or I have encountered.... yet im still lost as to why not using the same managment as these people offends them so much..
When I was looking into management systems I was shocked to find out the amount of misinformation there is regarding the virtues of each type which is dissapointing as threads like started by someone trying to present information so quickly can turn into 'my management is better than yours' once the fanboys arrive
Its a shame as it make learning about something a little harder...
Try not to let people get to you, I know its hard but I personally would rather learn something from you than watch you defend what you have no need to