Jamie Going

I think you mis-understand the point of the Gotech Mfi, the main advantage of this system on the escort turbo is the ease of fit, this in turn leads itself to cheaper EFI conversions, for people who want and ecu with "no moving parts" there is the Gotech mfi pro and pro x both of which will run a coil pack and a crank sensor.

Again any one can map the gotech ecu, the software is free and the comms lead is a simple cable, if they can map DTA, omex, Cossie etc, then they can map gotech.

Also im not saying cossie management isn't good, i believe i was one of the first people to have done this conversion to my own escort RST in 1996, with cossie management i set many records which took a while to beat.

So i believe were quite experienced in the cossie management area

rickbartlett

1 of the best budget packages around

ROB7656

have been thinking about going this route instead of chipping my s2 obviously need a -31 etc for more than standard boost would this be overkill for a standard s2?

Jamie Going

we have done many standard cars now, makes a nice upgrade

c.fogarty

I fitted Gotech Mini-X on my S2 running 803 injectors. Was very simple to fit and I.M.O the best solution to going EFI.

turbo

One i can't believe you still chatting about this two years down the line Two hmm i only go to jamsport with my car so i have no issues with getting MY car down to the guys. Three i don't have any major facts about gotech on me right now, that people don't already know so if you want to know any more info try here-> www.jam-sport.co.uk

marky_g

was wondering when this argument was gonna pop up again

Karlos G

iTrader: (4)

lol yeah it comes around fairly often doesnt it!

Turbocabbie

To start an argument, I would have had to state that one type of management was better than another which I never did, I was attempting to find out why someone believed this to be the case for my own knowledge and interest and the thread.
Unfortunately the response to support this statement lacked evidence, facts and knowledge as was pointed out.

The only suggestion I made in the thread to people is find a mapper you trust and use the system they are most experienced with.

I hold Jamie in high regards and have always found him to be knowledgeable, approachable and helpful which from my experience means a car would be in good hands with him. One of the most valid pieces of information regarding go-tech is 'its ease of fit' which is as important to some people as local skilled and knowledgeable mappers are for me. Yet this information was provided by Jamie himself and not a fan boy. A true indication of Jamies knowledge is that he only presented valid facts and information but if you notice never stated one management system is better than another.

All management systems offer value in different ways, and im sure Jamie would agree with this comment, but for someone to outright state one management system is better than another as if it is a fact is wrong, specially when you have nothing of value to support your statement.

Sorry for not following the line and being a sheep, but I always think I learn more by questioning someone's beliefs, even if people think im argumentative

Im done with this thread believe what you want, sod wanting information of value

turbo

FAN BOY I know why gotech is better than an old cossie set up don't forget i've had both so i can COMMENT can you the reason why i say gotech is better is ease of fitting the system, parts & price why pay over a grand for a second hand set up when you can get a brand new management cheaper which has more features than a 20 year old management. (so i've been told) And for me it's getting spare parts when you need them, read my post again i've (1) no time to go looking for parts for a cossie set up (2) my 3 local ford dealers don't stock anything RS no longer. You want to stick with an old but tryed and tested set up thats your choice its your motor. But for me you have to move with the times and gotech seems to fit the bill. I could go for something thats costs a lot more but why when gotech does everything i need from a management.

Turbocabbie

Couldn't help but make a come back for this one.. couldn't help myself

Until Jamie stated the very valid comment that 'ease of fitting' was the main advantage you had made no reference to this
I have already clarified that you do not need to use RS cosworth sensors on cossie management, I use zetec sensors which are very widely available in motor factors and halfords, yet you continue to suggest this belief of yours is a valid point
Out of curiosity what sensors can you use on go-tech which makes them easier to obtain than sensors from halfords.

Yet again you bring up the age perspective of components and state that you have been told the system is more advanced, yet the gotech solution you mention, recommend and inform everyone is Ł 750+ vat uses a distributor as part of the spark ignition system. My 20 year old system uses a coil pack which is a more effective and advanced part of ignition systems. This fact seems to go against what you are saying with regards to it being more advanced

To get advanced features like coilpack you would have to use the Gotech Gotech Mfi Pro which is supplied fitted and mapped from: Ł1116.25 suddenly puts it into the price range of cossie management which makes it no longer cheaper as like you said "why pay over a grand"

Im not knocking go-tech mfi at all, it does what it says on tin, its great for some people and not for others. The same can be said for cossie management.
I've seen some bloody quick cars on go-tech, most of which I might add have been mapped by Jamie which makes me certain his knowledge and experience with it give him that added edge and value. Although its possible to download the mapping software, it does not come with Jamie's experience imho which is why I would always suggest someone who gets it done has the right person do it

Remember it was not me who stated one management type was better than another, I just disputed this statement and wanted to know why. I am still less than convinced. Perhaps its to do with transient fuelling

turbo

You make me laff chap I'm not going to dig out a two year old thread just to (A) say gotech is a lot easy to fit and is the best thing ever etc (B) i can be bothered to drive around looking for parts. I first posted about this back in 2006 I could have fitted any other management but i went with gotech beacuse it does everything i wanted from a setup and it was a lot cheaper too. I'd rather pay over a grand for brand new mangement than something thats 20 years old AND second hand. Also you never really know what you're getting with something so old, and this is ONE of the main reasons i say that gotech is better. Like i've said before you got to move with the times and technology, if you want to stick with something that was designed back in 1988 you carry on. The Ł750 system that jamsport were doing at the time (2006) was spot on for someone that was on a budget. Hope you understand everything i've just said, if not tuff shit fella.

P.S thanks for letting me know that the zetec sensors fit cossie gear i now know which is GREAT......

Ade

I've just paid for a Gotech Pro setup for my Mk3 Turbo project.... supplied and to be fitted and mapped by www.sitechracing.co.uk at a very reasonable price too

Seems to do everything that I'm ever likely to want a management system to do.... and I far prefer the idea of having a modern brand new ECU & loom etc rather than having to adapt Cossie or Fiesta RST to work....