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Old 08-11-2006, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Pennywise
Seeing as your on about zetecs,ZVH's and not just CVH's


Can I jump in?


Stage 3 YB power, Hoping to get into the 10's to 100 if not lower... Weight will be around 850-900kg's , 4 seconds to 60 and what ever top speed a T5 box and an M3 rear diff will allow...


Thanks

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and now you can jump straight back out
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Can't beat a bike for top speed and 0-60.
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Originally Posted by Pennywise
Seeing as your on about zetecs,ZVH's and not just CVH's


Can I jump in?


Stage 3 YB power, Hoping to get into the 10's to 100 if not lower... Weight will be around 850-900kg's , 4 seconds to 60 and what ever top speed a T5 box and an M3 rear diff will allow...


Thanks
FWD only

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Old 08-11-2006, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenebm
think christian should strip it out? but would he get any better times with it stripped with a few light weight buckets.
Well he's started by removing the bonnet....






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Just out of general interest, how much does it cost to get an engine to 300+ brake? I appreciate it will cost less if you have strong, lowish mileage lump to start with, but how much on top of say getting it to 200 bhp does it cost to get it to 300? (I'm talking about keeping it cvh whether 16/1900, rather than zetec/zvh conversions.)
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Originally Posted by bigchez
Just out of general interest, how much does it cost to get an engine to 300+ brake? I appreciate it will cost less if you have strong, lowish mileage lump to start with, but how much on top of say getting it to 200 bhp does it cost to get it to 300? (I'm talking about keeping it cvh whether 16/1900, rather than zetec/zvh conversions.)
from top of my head...about 5k? maybe a fair bit more depending on mapping, management, turbo, manifolds etc etc

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Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Can't beat a bike for top speed and 0-60.
Any fitted with a CVH, ZVH, ZT or YB

Don't qualify i'm afraid
Old 08-11-2006, 03:06 PM
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Sounds like a challenge. A CVH in a bike frame.
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Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Can't beat a bike for top speed and 0-60.
What about round a track....
Old 08-11-2006, 03:44 PM
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I think round a track it would be close call. It depends on the driver / rider and how your balls are.
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My balls are pretty big... Try me
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I'd be up for that me and my ickle bike

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Originally Posted by Pennywise
My balls are pretty big... Try me
you'd be sideways into the 1st gravel trap
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Originally Posted by M K
Originally Posted by Pennywise
My balls are pretty big... Try me
you'd be sideways into the 1st gravel trap
We'll see
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I've got to admit I've never been on a track before so I'd have to adapt a bit. Do they have track days where cars and bikes can go on together?
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no



not as far as i know
Old 08-11-2006, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
I've got to admit I've never been on a track before so I'd have to adapt a bit. Do they have track days where cars and bikes can go on together?
No, but if you really fancy it, the Nurburgring will really shit you up whether on a bike or car, as they are both out at the same time.

Both fighting for the same apex but taking different lines....much crayzeness
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Originally Posted by davidnormanuk
Can't beat a bike for top speed and 0-60.
not sure bout top speed...but 0-60 bikes win hands down....mid range i would prefer my car

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Old 11-11-2006, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy_R
Id like to see a T4 powered ZT16v be interesting to compare it with a T4 powered YB.

hope this clears few things up...

the RED S2 jano built with 16 v CGI (zetec turbo's car) is now in Aarons Black Series 1 and his CVH in zetec turbos,

this engine while in the Red s2 made 287bhp with 320ish ftlb at 16psi on standard cams and a stage 3 T3... IIRC

Now in Aarons car has Kent Rally spec cams, vernier pulleys and Runs a maram shafted T4. His runnin around 18psi at the minute and is due a Remap where he will fit Grey injectors and mayb run more boost...

Problem is with the 2ltr 16v is Torque is incredible and with Air injectors cums on boost hard so even at the minute his car spins up in 3rd in the bone dry with out ALS on, so this will influence his boost he gonna run.

Once he had is remap ill post up sum figures for ya

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Old 12-11-2006, 10:50 AM
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a nice undriveable car then
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Originally Posted by notSteveS2
Originally Posted by Andy_R
Id like to see a T4 powered ZT16v be interesting to compare it with a T4 powered YB.

hope this clears few things up...

the RED S2 jano built with 16 v CGI (zetec turbo's car) is now in Aarons Black Series 1 and his CVH in zetec turbos,

this engine while in the Red s2 made 287bhp with 320ish ftlb at 16psi on standard cams and a stage 3 T3... IIRC

Now in Aarons car has Kent Rally spec cams, vernier pulleys and Runs a maram shafted T4. His runnin around 18psi at the minute and is due a Remap where he will fit Grey injectors and mayb run more boost...

Problem is with the 2ltr 16v is Torque is incredible and with Air injectors cums on boost hard so even at the minute his car spins up in 3rd in the bone dry with out ALS on, so this will influence his boost he gonna run.

Once he had is remap ill post up sum figures for ya

good stuff! so whats going into the red one now?

Jano did u get my PM regarding the gearbox?

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the CVH outof Aarons 1 is... *edit* in the Red 2...

Nigel B... wtf u on about??? how can any1 have over 300ftlb of torque and not get wheel spin in 3rd wen on full chat???


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Originally Posted by notSteveS2
the CVH outof Aarons 1 is... *edit* in the Red 2...

Nigel B... wtf u on about??? how can any1 have over 300ftlb of torque and not get wheel spin in 3rd wen on full chat???


howcome the 1600 went into that?

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gareth wanted to sell it coz couldnt b bothered with the project no more... aaron wants to push it further... henec cams and greys goin on and T4
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Originally Posted by notSteveS2
the CVH outof Aarons 1 is... *edit* in the Red 2...

Nigel B... wtf u on about??? how can any1 have over 300ftlb of torque and not get wheel spin in 3rd wen on full chat???


Optimised suspension geometry, sticky tyres and a progressive power delivery will all aid traction. With standard suspension geometry settings on an RST, you will always get 3rd gear wheel spin with big power.
Old 12-11-2006, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by notSteveS2
the CVH outof Aarons 1 is... *edit* in the Red 2...

Nigel B... wtf u on about??? how can any1 have over 300ftlb of torque and not get wheel spin in 3rd wen on full chat???


well mine must be done properly then
wheelspin in 1st
slightly in 2nd and none in 3rd
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Originally Posted by nigel b
Originally Posted by notSteveS2
the CVH outof Aarons 1 is... *edit* in the Red 2...

Nigel B... wtf u on about??? how can any1 have over 300ftlb of torque and not get wheel spin in 3rd wen on full chat???


well mine must be done properly then
wheelspin in 1st
slightly in 2nd and none in 3rd
what spec and power is yours mate?

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Old 13-11-2006, 10:22 AM
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bassboy - are you compiling a book of the fastest most powerful turbo's with all this info


i now class you as the man with all knowledge on what rs has what power if neded in any future topics


nice to meet you to fella
Old 13-11-2006, 07:08 PM
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you don't need big power to go fast!!!

mines around 260-280 at 16 psi, 2.1 ze-vh.

running koni's, stripped out, propper engine build.

0-60 5.5 consistant
13's over the quarter all day long @ 110mph.
and quicker top speed than i der to push it, but well over the scary side of 150mph.

you will always know the higher power cars buy their terminal speed over the quarter mile.
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fook knows on power as it has never seen a dyno/rolling road

its on a 1600
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Just to add to this, I know most of you now know it anyway, but mine has made 351bhp and 310lb/ft, 1600CVH. Just wanted to put it into the context of this conversation.

So, that's practically a full 200bhp over standard!!
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Just to add to this, I know most of you now know it anyway, but mine has made 351bhp and 310lb/ft, 1600CVH. Just wanted to put it into the context of this conversation.

So, that's practically a full 200bhp over standard!!
Chirstian you're turning into Rod.................

Stunning results mate, 351 from a 1.6 is just mind blowing!!
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Originally Posted by nigel b
bassboy
fook knows on power as it has never seen a dyno/rolling road

its on a 1600



his is 2ltr 16v... mayb thats why then... race him if u see him and mayb explain why he gets more wheels spin ay...




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Originally Posted by notSteveS2
Originally Posted by nigel b
bassboy
fook knows on power as it has never seen a dyno/rolling road

its on a 1600



his is 2ltr 16v... mayb thats why then... race him if u see him and mayb explain why he gets more wheels spin ay...




IF he has more torque,but then he will be wheelspinning where as i can put the power down
why waste all the power/torque spinning the wheels?
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Originally Posted by nigel b
Originally Posted by notSteveS2
Originally Posted by nigel b
bassboy
fook knows on power as it has never seen a dyno/rolling road

its on a 1600



his is 2ltr 16v... mayb thats why then... race him if u see him and mayb explain why he gets more wheels spin ay...




IF he has more torque,but then he will be wheelspinning where as i can put the power down
why waste all the power/torque spinning the wheels?
guess it depends on the scenario - whether he races from rolling starts or standing starts...there will be a BIG difference in top end power i would imagine...however i dont know the spec of nigel b's car and who knows he might have a GT30 under the bonnet LOL

out of curiosity what turbo have you got nigel?

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good guess bassboy
its had a tweak or 2


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