Series 2 Steering
14-09-2006, 07:43 AM
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Series 2 Steering
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Is there anything that can be done to improve the steering weight and feel on a Series 2??.......after driving my brothers 106 Rallye I can't get over how much better the steering is!
Mine feels far to light around the straight ahead [is that due to the 17's?] and the initial response to steering inputs is crap [woolly around the straight ahead].
What do other people think to their series 2 steering? Are any mods available. Is it possibly due a worn steering rack?
The car has poly-bushes and adjustable TCA's and new steering column bushes.
Or is just what you get with driving an old car?
Is there anything that can be done to improve the steering weight and feel on a Series 2??.......after driving my brothers 106 Rallye I can't get over how much better the steering is!
Mine feels far to light around the straight ahead [is that due to the 17's?] and the initial response to steering inputs is crap [woolly around the straight ahead].
What do other people think to their series 2 steering? Are any mods available. Is it possibly due a worn steering rack?
The car has poly-bushes and adjustable TCA's and new steering column bushes.
Or is just what you get with driving an old car?
14-09-2006, 05:13 PM
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hmm john,you could tek this up with the guy you got your tcas off ,martin fox of mef i believe,
as there is a bit more to it,like having it set up by corner weighting,i believe,but maybe youll need adj trailing arms too,and you could be talking dosh,
is your inner bushes in the steering mech worn? loadsa peeps have been doin them lately.
sell it and buy a jag,
as there is a bit more to it,like having it set up by corner weighting,i believe,but maybe youll need adj trailing arms too,and you could be talking dosh,
is your inner bushes in the steering mech worn? loadsa peeps have been doin them lately.
sell it and buy a jag,
14-09-2006, 09:15 PM
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What about fitting a quick rack? There is definetly one available for RHD. I know that as I've been searching for a LHD quick rack quite some time. 
I think that the ratio of the std rack is pants. On a Sierra with power steering it's 2,5 turns from left to right. On an Escort MkIV it's about 4 turns.
Quick rack will make steering a lot heavier though, so maybe not the best mod for city driving.
I think that the ratio of the std rack is pants. On a Sierra with power steering it's 2,5 turns from left to right. On an Escort MkIV it's about 4 turns.
Quick rack will make steering a lot heavier though, so maybe not the best mod for city driving.
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14-09-2006, 10:01 PM
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burtons do a quafe quick rack, cant remember how much mine was but £90 sounds about it. All you get for that is a rack and a pinion. Recon rack was about £120 IIRC
15-09-2006, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JesseT
The LHD quick rack parts (not a full rack) are available from Finland for 150e if you need some.
15-09-2006, 09:48 AM
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Some good replies!
Is it possible that my rack is worn and causing the symptoms I'm describing?
Quick rack sound like a good idea! Any links? I'm not bothered about heavy steering round town and it could do with having more 'weight' once rolling.
Tony, I seem to change my mind everyday whether I'm gonna keep the damn thing or not. In the middle of the week I want to sell it…..then it comes to the weekend when I go to start stripping. I clean it and take it for a drive instead
Is it possible that my rack is worn and causing the symptoms I'm describing?
Quick rack sound like a good idea! Any links? I'm not bothered about heavy steering round town and it could do with having more 'weight' once rolling.
Tony, I seem to change my mind everyday whether I'm gonna keep the damn thing or not. In the middle of the week I want to sell it…..then it comes to the weekend when I go to start stripping. I clean it and take it for a drive instead
15-09-2006, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
For £30 or so bang on a new rack John (if your keeping it).
Or undo the arms and see how slack the ends are first.
What front camber/castor settings are you running
Don't ring Martin he's in France at the moment
Or undo the arms and see how slack the ends are first.
What front camber/castor settings are you running
Don't ring Martin he's in France at the moment
I 'think' my camber and toe settings are as follows [from memory]:
15 minutes toe out and 1.5 degrees camber.
15-09-2006, 10:13 AM
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John, just feel how "stiff " the steering arms are.
There is a ball joint in the inner ends that wears out causing some sloppyness.
If you undo the steering arm from the hub and the arm drops of its own free will then they are knackered. It ideally should hold itself up in the position where you left it.
Maybe a daft question but the tyres are not over inflated either are they ?
There is a ball joint in the inner ends that wears out causing some sloppyness.
If you undo the steering arm from the hub and the arm drops of its own free will then they are knackered. It ideally should hold itself up in the position where you left it.
Maybe a daft question but the tyres are not over inflated either are they ?
15-09-2006, 11:26 AM
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Tony,
I know from memory that the steering arms do drop [they don't hold themselves up]. I wonder if my braking vibration which I had for a long time sending vibration up through the steering wheel has contributed to wearing them out? Probably!
Front tyres are Yokohama Parada Spec 2 inflated to 30psi, maybe its worth dropping them 2-3 psi?
I know from memory that the steering arms do drop [they don't hold themselves up]. I wonder if my braking vibration which I had for a long time sending vibration up through the steering wheel has contributed to wearing them out? Probably!
Front tyres are Yokohama Parada Spec 2 inflated to 30psi, maybe its worth dropping them 2-3 psi?
15-09-2006, 11:30 AM
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Burton list a Quaife Quick Rack-
QUIAFE QUICK RACK KIT 2.78 ESCORT MK3/4 RHD
"SPECIAL ORDER ONLY"
at £88.95, the picture shows the rack and pinion, is this kit any good Tony? Does the 2.78 refer to the lock-to-lock ratio?
Is it a case of stripping a standard rack and fitting the new quick rack and pinion?
QUIAFE QUICK RACK KIT 2.78 ESCORT MK3/4 RHD
"SPECIAL ORDER ONLY"
at £88.95, the picture shows the rack and pinion, is this kit any good Tony? Does the 2.78 refer to the lock-to-lock ratio?
Is it a case of stripping a standard rack and fitting the new quick rack and pinion?
15-09-2006, 12:50 PM
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Try calling this place for the parts for LHD quick rack.
http://www.rallyracefin.fi/index.php
Too bad they don't show an e-mail address but they do have the LHD quick rack "inner parts" in their catalog. The complete phone number would be: +358 40 5656899
http://www.rallyracefin.fi/index.php
Too bad they don't show an e-mail address but they do have the LHD quick rack "inner parts" in their catalog. The complete phone number would be: +358 40 5656899
15-09-2006, 04:58 PM
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Burton list a re-con steering rack at £33.45, is it any easy job to change?
Remember they are an exchange item so you will need to return your old one. Easy job to change yes. Loosen the pinch bolt on the column joint, undo the track rod ends, undo the brackets on the rack to chassis mounts (4 bolts), remove rack. Refitting is as simple.
Originally Posted by John Laverick
Burton list a Quaife Quick Rack-
QUIAFE QUICK RACK KIT 2.78 ESCORT MK3/4 RHD
"SPECIAL ORDER ONLY"
at £88.95, the picture shows the rack and pinion, is this kit any good Tony? Does the 2.78 refer to the lock-to-lock ratio?
Is it a case of stripping a standard rack and fitting the new quick rack and pinion?
QUIAFE QUICK RACK KIT 2.78 ESCORT MK3/4 RHD
"SPECIAL ORDER ONLY"
at £88.95, the picture shows the rack and pinion, is this kit any good Tony? Does the 2.78 refer to the lock-to-lock ratio?
Is it a case of stripping a standard rack and fitting the new quick rack and pinion?
I use a 2.4 turn quickrack (much better) which Im looking to get copied by a machine company as they are virtually no longer available.
15-09-2006, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by John Laverick
JesseT
Do you have a quick rack fitted to yours? What do you think to it?
Do you have a quick rack fitted to yours? What do you think to it?
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