antony215

Anyone got one?? what they like good/bad point's thinking of getting one soon

dave_y

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just in the process of fitting mine, so far it fits very well although i havent tried to put the bumper back on yet lol

scortgti

ive got one and it works very well. added bonus is that graham is a really nice bloke

addiction

top piece of mate, next to my engine it's the best thing i've put on my car
you only have to cut the bumper if you want to keep the spotlights on,best to put the fan's on the rad dude.

dave_y

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its a bit late now

i will find a way to put the spots back on

vroooom ptssssh

dave_y, Get the fans in the middle, no point covering that big IC up !!

honestly, do yourself a favour now before you put it all back together. .!

1.9 xr2 on 40's

i liked mine when it was on the car, it dont work quite so well in the cupboard now tho

addiction

dave_y you might have to cut the bumper if your mounting your fans like that
personally i would put them on the rad

dave_y

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i test fitted the bumper a few mins ago and the only bit catching was the fan screws on the foam behind the number plate but so im gonna sand it out as much as possible.

i would put them on the rad but since im not moving the rad back at all there is no room whatsoever. the rad is precisely 1mm-ish behind the intercooler.

vroooom ptssssh

Move the IC forward. . . which will put it right up against the bumper probably, giving enough room inbetween the IC and rad, problem solved

EssexMikeSi

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why does everyone say put them between rad and cooler? do they restrict air gettin to the cooler that much then by being there?

heres a pic of mine, fitted few weeks ago

EssexMikeSi

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you see, this may sound bloody stupid and feel free to tell me if it does, but i thought if anything, by havin the fans at front, it might help more air get to the cooler, coz if i had the intercooler right up against the bumper, the bumper is blocking alot of it, about 50% coz the new grs evo 5 is smaller. but with the fans there, the cooler is pushed back, and some air my flow up int bits of cooler that are blocked by bumper. hope u kinda see my theory lol

vroooom ptssssh

EssexMikeSi, What do we have fans for? to cool the rad/coolant not the IC

So by having fanS on your IC (I say fanS because I'd reckon you only need 1 if it was inbetween the rad and cooler) your needint to blow cool air through a tight grid to the rad, which wont be very efficient hence probably needing 2 to do the job!

So if you move the cooler forward (which is easily possible if the fans arent their with a couple of washers/gromets) this will allow space inbetween the IC & Rad for A fan. .


so now you'll only need 1 fan and can sell the other, so freeing up some cash. . and making it all more efficient, and the added bonus is. . no fans to block airlfow to the rad!
with your 2 fans, look how theirs a quarter nearly of each fan blowing air onto a solid surface. . so really half of a fan is pointless so your running 1.5 fans if you look at it that way?

you MAY need to trim the bumper ever so slightly but i doubt it as when i fitted one to my pals car (granted i did fit the fan on the IC) their was plenty of room to fit it inbetween!

P.s. with 50% of the cooler bein blocked, well it's really still blocked with the fans and bumper where they are jusnow, only benefit the fans may have imo is when your sittin parked up, temps rise (as it's right next to the rad) the fans come on, cool the IC down for when you set off. . but then 3-4 mins of driving/airflow will cool it down anyway.. and they only come on with the fan switch, unless you overide it!


all IMO Ofcourse

antony215

Think ill be getting one then how much dose it work out with the two fans??

addiction

if your using the car everyday and in traffic you are going to need 2 fans.
when i fitted mine i thought 1 fan would be enough, it was'nt!!!

vroooom ptssssh

addiction, Was your fan mounted on the IC or inbetween?

I think for every day normal driving it'll be fine with one, as my pals was fitted with one fan on the IC and in heavy traffic on the m/way on a hot summers day the temp was perfect, probably because the car hadnt been given a roasting, so not allot of heat to soak into the rad once we'd stopped.

everyones cars will be different tho, old rads on some/leaking header tank caps etc etc

dave_y

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EssexMikeSi

what bits of the bumper did you need to trim?

addiction

i have tried both ways with 1 fan and it is definately better with 2 mounted on the rad! and before you say anything else i have an alloy rad,82 deg stat,cossie fan sender and all the other trimmings to help!

craig rs

got my fans mounted on the rad and its fine, bit of a squeez tho

EssexMikeSi

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dave y- i had to trim the lip of the actual plastic of the bumper a few mm, so the fans could spin freely and then i had to cut all the foam and metal off the back of the bumper behnind where number plate is to give the actual fan hubs clearance to spin.

im goin to see how my car runs with the fans on the intercooler. then if its seems high compared to wen i had the single fan on the rad wen i had a saph 2wd intercooler (higher acts) i wil try the fans between the rad and cooler

i to have fitted a cossie fan switch and 82 deg stat to help with things

wen i ordered my intercooler, graham at grs asked me what way i was gona have the fans etc so im guessin the intercooler brackets have been welded on so it can sit in its certain position. failing that, i'll have to cuts them off an weld new ones on.

turboloon

i would put the fans in between the i.c and rad as you want as much cold air getting onto that cooler i have a grs fitted to mine also done it my self ended up having to get mounting strips rewelde as well if you are running a standard rad then you will ony be able to mount the one fan as the metal strip that runs down the middle of the rad impedes the fans i.e it 'cocks ' the fans and the screws at the cnter of the fans fowls on the i.c...dont do wot i did push the rad so far back it hits the accuator as i burst a rad with the motion of the engine under load but if you do have an alloy rad that shouldn't be a prob as they have no metal stip down the middle...

Zetecfiesta

ive got one tried putting the fan on the rad and then the intercooler on got it all nicely spaced cause at first the fan touched the intercooler bolted bumper in place went to close bonnet and it wont close cause the intercooler hit the release arm so i took it off and its now sat in garage cause im too lazy to re fit it lol i guess if i mounted it lower if i can it will be ok?

1.9 xr2 on 40's

slash cut L spec bumper thats the way

Zetecfiesta

nah dont want to cut the bumper if i dont have to id rather keep the standard look! might get the straps rewelded then to adjust it a bit more!

dave_y

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mine is now on, i had to cut quite a large amount of foam from behind the bumper but the didnt have to cut ANY of the bumper at all and the fans spin freely, admittedly there is about a 1-2mm gap but they spin freely

edited to add pictures

vroooom ptssssh

Looks good mate, see how you get on at that

Zetecfiesta, on an erst I can almost guarantee you can lower it, not sure on a fez tho, doubt u'd have any problems if its possible to lower more!

antony215

Think when i get mine i'll put the fan's on the rad as i dont want to put the fuckers on the intercooler than have to take it all back off because it's getting to hot because theres not enough cold air geting to the rad

EssexMikeSi

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dave y- lookin good mate, let us know how u get on with the running temp of the car etc with the fans bein on the cooler and not the rad

dave_y

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82oC stat went on as did a cossie fan switch so hopefully i should be ok

scotty86d

what does the cossie fan switch do and is it difficult to fit. ive just bought an 82deg stat from burton to fit when my new engine goes in.

dave_y

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cossie fan switch cuts in earlier than the standard one.

notSteveS2

they r the nuts matey... i aint gone the 2 kenlowe route tho...

i got 1 big HUGE fan!!!

works just as good tho...






this is how my set up is but thats my last RST... new 1 has identiacl set up...

dave_y

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hmmm, how deep is that big fan? the only thing stopping me from putting the spotlights back on is the fans are in the way whereas that fan leaves loads of space!

addiction

Dave_y looking at the pics you've posted it is possible to get the spots back on

notSteveS2

the fan is only like an inch thick all around except the middle(motor) its unless bigger... but with carefull cuttin u can cut out the inner of the thickest section of bumper and it fits in with a little cut out of bottom...


if u look closely at me bumper in my sig... theres few bits missin from the 90 spec and ive cut sum away...

Rallyesport

Anyone with oil coolers and GRS, where do you find space?

dave_y

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notSteveS2 dont worry there is nothing behind the bumper, i sat there with a small spade digging out all of the foam lol

addiction i have tried to put them back on but the brackets foul on the fan, did you put spacers on yours the clear your intercooler?

notSteveS2

there is still sum cuttin out to do aswell tho brother...

takin out that foam is not easy is it... lol

addiction

yes mate,i made up some spacers but had to modify the brackets a bit and cut the back of the bumper. to be honest it really was'nt that hard once i found something suitable to make the spacers from

dave_y

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spotlights are staying off for the time being, after putting in gearbox, replacing EVERY hose and now fitting the intercooler im tired of working on the car, im just gonna stick it on the rollers and drive it

may see about putting the spots back on around christmas time