mintseries1

might sound stupid but.......
how do u no if it or if it's not!!

Dan

A custom model has the 'Custom Pack' fitted mate...

I.e. Electric windows, Sunroof, Open rear Quarter windows, Bronze tinted windows...

Cant remember if thats the lot, but will definately have some of the above fitted

Mr S1

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Correct..................

Dan

Mr S1 Cheers fella, wasn't quite sure!

SafeChav

I think central locking was in the custom pack aswell wasn't it?

Dan

Was gonna mention that but wasn't sure, I reckon it was mate TBH!

SafeChav

Oh well ha ha beat you to it

(be well gutted if im wrong)

Dan

Fookin hope you are now! afpmsl

Did the Custom's have side repeaters aswell or was this common all of the later models?

Mr S1

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Yes mate, forgot that.............Dan, the S1's from 1986 had side repeaters, although mine is a very late 85 car and has them too

SafeChav

I hope im not

Theres a thread about this actually, aparently it was introduced for the 86 models although it appears it was introduced early onto some of the late 85's aswell.

Lol i was just about to take the piss out of you saying how ridiculous would that be to have side repeaters as an option, but i juist remembered rear seat belts were optional back then

Dan

Didn't think that side repeaters were specific to custom models for some reason!

I prefer them without!

Mr S1

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They're not...............if you get an '86 non-custom it'll have them.............

SafeChav

Nah i suppose though they could of been but that apparently is the story behind it, same as the orions u dont really see the early ones of them with the repeaters.

I prefer them without too, less wiring, less to fail on the MO, and less things to go rusty

dry

Any car registered in 1986 have side repeaters as it became law.

SafeChav

I thought it had something to do the law but i wasn't 100%, obviously that was when it became compulsory though, a lot of cars already had them before that.

Dan

Thats what I said!

Trust Ford to be behind the times hey!

Mind you, saying that, wasn't it the only FWD Turbo car on the market at the time!

SafeChav

Yeah i think that says a lot aswell along the lines of "Guinea Pig"

Dan

Your looking at it all the wrong way mate, I see Ford as Pioneer's!

SafeChav

No they make car stereo's mate

No seriously though, the Series 1 was the first FWD Turbo car, and they have such poor traction off the line.....

Dan

Thats only with development that is now getting on for 25-30 years old!

Gotta remember mate that everything was RWD ( ) in them days and I bet Ford were planning the FWD RST for a good few years before it made it into production

mintseries1

cheers for the coment lads, so mine will be a custom then by having all of the above elec window, sun roof,central looking, open rear quarters and its an early model with out the side repeaters!!!!!!!
does any1 no how many of these were made and will it put Ł's when coming to sell it!!
cheers andy

SafeChav

I have no idea on how many were made but to the best of my knowledge the NON customs fetch more because of the rarity of them

mintseries1

cheers mate for the info mate!
i just would of thought that being a CUSTOM it would fetch more! so there were more csutom made than non?????? am i correct!?!?!?

SafeChav

I believe so yes.........dont quote me though but im 99.9% sure. I should expect most people forking out for the top dog Series 1 Turbo would want a sunroof electrics etc. And going by the prices on eBay the non customs seem to go a little higher i don't think theres a lot in it though.

Dan

Yes mate, non custom models are early B Plate Series 1's ec, they have none of the above spec on them, I think to be honest it's the condition of the car these days that commands the money!

If you've got a rot box with a custom pack, and a clean non-custom (or vice versa) then which one would you go for!

P.s Are you thinking of selling, i'm looking at the mo... See my Sig! lol

Mr S1

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These days condition is everything for a S1, irrespective of whether they are a custom or not, as has already been said. In this climate a non-custom won't command a price advantage over a custom............

SafeChav

Ah ok then I was pretty sure, but not positive Just ignore me

mintseries1

cheers dan, iv seen your sig im sorry mate couldnt sell her havent even got her on the road yet since i got her! and i love the thing 2 bits ever since i first saw the series 1 i thought i will have 2 have 1! and that all my mates have s2's,2wd cossies,4wd cossie, 3 door, xr2 turbo,i just had 2 have the series 1! its the looker of all of them!!
im selling a s2 if you want it!!

Mr S1

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There were only something like 100 or so non-customs sold IIRC..........not many people wanted windy windows, no sunroof etc. Even though they are rare, I have very little doubt they aren't worth more than a custom. As I said esrlier, the S1's are highly sought after now and a good one is a good one, whether it's a custom or not and will be worth strong money.

Dan

Easier said than done!

Mr S1, can you shed any light on how many were made fella?

SafeChav

Yeah really you can talk i have to put up with you nightly apparently

mintseries1

There were only something like 100 or so non-customs sold IIRC..........not many people wanted windy windows, no sunroof etc. Even though they are rare, I have very little doubt they aren't worth more than a custom. As I said esrlier, the S1's are highly sought after now and a good one is a good one, whether it's a custom or not and will be worth strong money.[/quote]

cheers for the info!!

Mr S1

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I hear conflicting stories Dan TBH.............I was always under the impression that just over 5000 were built, but I seem to remember somewhere very very recently that 8504 were made. TBH the best person to ask on here is 'rs shawn' who set up the S1 database. If anyone has a decent idea it would be him.

Dan

Yeah guess so mate, I'm with you on the 8504 figure though, rings a bell in my head for some reason

Think circa 8k was sales worldwide though, not just Uk

rs shawn

All S1's had opening rear quarters, not just the custom packed cars.

One big advantage of the non-custom cars is the fact they don't suffer from roof rot as bad as the custom cars. Ford didn't learn, and the S2's suffer just as badly.

Unsure of the numbers sold of non-custom models and of those in the UK only, but the figure of 8504 total cars sold worldwide is correct

Dan

Think I looked at a Custom model today Shawn, was on a B Plate, had sunroof and electric pack etc... Is that right?

Was rotted though so didn't get it!

rs shawn

Shame. You get any pics..lol ?
You'll find one soon mate.

Yeh..custom get the electrics and sunroof stuff.
And another 40 BHP over the non-customs.

Dan

40 bhp! I heard it was at least 60!

Was a shame as it's a nice straight car but rust had really taken hold of it, i've just not got the time or space to be able to restore anything else! Need a driveaway, use and abuse then love one if you know what I mean! lol

Pics are here my man! http://www.rs-mania.co.uk/forums/ind...showtopic=8991

rs shawn

Got pics of that. Kurd comes on here also. Sure this was on ebay a week or two back.

Dan

Yeah he put it on just to see what would come of it cos they did a 1p listing day or something.

I met Kurt on here mate

Spot on bloke I must admit, told me the car used to belong to our old Dorset RSOC Chairman, just shocked that the guy would sell a car like this without disclosing all the bad points, he should know more than anyone being in the bloody RSOC!