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Old 13-12-2005, 11:14 PM
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Should escort cosworths have a red key?

Just looking at a small turbo and forgot to ask if it had one. If they should have one, what is it actually needed for and is it a problem if it doesnt?

Wrote down loads of stuff to check and ask the seller, but this completly slipped my mind until someone else mentioned it to me.

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Old 13-12-2005, 11:17 PM
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It schould if it has immobiliser. EEC IV cars have them.


I don't have the red ket and it's a big problem later...
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NOT a red ignition key, but yes ideally a red immobiliser key.. IF it doesnt have the red immobiliser key, then it isnt the end of the world, just get the immobiliser taken out, they are getting old now anyway


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Ahh right thanks for that. Another thing on the list to ask the seller then.

Cheers.
Old 14-12-2005, 08:53 PM
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Damo V small turbos have PATS system. Immobiliser build into EEC-IV module.
Old 15-12-2005, 03:22 PM
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Small turbos need the red key if you want to get more made.Else you have to take the car into Ford to have it done.Great if you havn't lost them all !!!
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
Small turbos need the red key if you want to get more made.Else you have to take the car into Ford to have it done.Great if you havn't lost them all !!!
So is that all its needed for, just to get more keys cut and coded? I know for sure it has 2 sets of keys anyway, so not a great problem if it doesnt then.
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Thats right.
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Originally Posted by Azrael
Damo V small turbos have PATS system. Immobiliser build into EEC-IV module.
Well there you go!!... another reason not to have ST then
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Whether its a small turbo or big turbo wasnt really an issue for me to be honest mate. I agree if you want big power then the big turbo is probably a must. Ive come across a really nice small turbo with low miles with over 300 bhp which is more than enough for me. Its got an extensive service history and has been meticulously maintained and pampered. Too good to miss out on so i had to have it!!! I pick it up at the weekend and cant wait.
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Mine has every key AND the red key from new.

S1rst, glad you found a nice one mate and I'm keeping mine now too
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Originally Posted by Damo V
NOT a red ignition key, but yes ideally a red immobiliser key.. IF it doesnt have the red immobiliser key, then it isnt the end of the world, just get the immobiliser taken out, they are getting old now anyway


Hi Damo, i have this immobiliser in my car but only one black key .
The one in the photo is your taken out? Would you like to sell to me or give me the instruction on how to eventually take out mine
I ask you because sometime is very difficult to made a start (the only key i found is quite old/used) so I don't want to find myself in a bad situation.
Thank for your interest.
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S1rst, glad you found a nice one mate and I'm keeping mine now too
Cheers mate, ill put some pics up at the weekend all being well.
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Whether its a small turbo or big turbo wasnt really an issue for me to be honest mate. I agree if you want big power then the big turbo is probably a must. Ive come across a really nice small turbo with low miles with over 300 bhp which is more than enough for me. Its got an extensive service history and has been meticulously maintained and pampered. Too good to miss out on so i had to have it!!! I pick it up at the weekend and cant wait.

NICE ONE MATE I HOPE YOU ENJOY IT
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Originally Posted by Duca
Originally Posted by Damo V
NOT a red ignition key, but yes ideally a red immobiliser key.. IF it doesnt have the red immobiliser key, then it isnt the end of the world, just get the immobiliser taken out, they are getting old now anyway


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Hi Damo, i have this immobiliser in my car but only one black key .
The one in the photo is your taken out? Would you like to sell to me or give me the instruction on how to eventually take out mine
I ask you because sometime is very difficult to made a start (the only key i found is quite old/used) so I don't want to find myself in a bad situation.
Thank for your interest.
I took it out my car as I went PECTEL loom route... I sold the immob unit and keys for circa £100...

If you can PROVE you have a ECos, with a Wipac Immob I can give you a FULL concise and extensive procedure to remove it... but I wont give it out to any tom dick or Harry

It will take you at least 2 hours IMO
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Originally Posted by Damo V
Originally Posted by Duca
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NOT a red ignition key, but yes ideally a red immobiliser key.. IF it doesnt have the red immobiliser key, then it isnt the end of the world, just get the immobiliser taken out, they are getting old now anyway


/Forsale%20and%20EBAY/DSC00807.jpg[/img]
Hi Damo, i have this immobiliser in my car but only one black key .
The one in the photo is your taken out? Would you like to sell to me or give me the instruction on how to eventually take out mine
I ask you because sometime is very difficult to made a start (the only key i found is quite old/used) so I don't want to find myself in a bad situation.
Thank for your interest.
I took it out my car as I went PECTEL loom route... I sold the immob unit and keys for circa £100...

If you can PROVE you have a ECos, with a Wipac Immob I can give you a FULL concise and extensive procedure to remove it... but I wont give it out to any tom dick or Harry

It will take you at least 2 hours IMO
Hello Damo, only tell me how can I prove to you I have an Escort Csw. I can say that is an Escort Cosworth Monte Wolf, N°049, Jewel Violet and some pics i had already post in this thread

Here

I'd prefer to have the original immob but in case my key start to fault i need to disable the immob or if i find a complete original immob i can change it.
Help me please.
Thanks
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Its easy to overide at the roadside in a matter of minutes if you know how......

YHPM
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Thank you very much Damo. You are great !!!
Maybe one day i return a favour to you.
Ciao
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Originally Posted by Duca
Thank you very much Damo. You are great !!!
Maybe one day i return a favour to you.
Ciao
hi i have a monte cossy too. i have only one black key but now it's not working . i want to eliminating the wipac system . where can i find the cpu module. can you send me the demonting procedure ?
thanks
buye

mike
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Whether its a small turbo or big turbo wasnt really an issue for me to be honest mate. I agree if you want big power then the big turbo is probably a must. Ive come across a really nice small turbo with low miles with over 300 bhp which is more than enough for me. Its got an extensive service history and has been meticulously maintained and pampered. Too good to miss out on so i had to have it!!! I pick it up at the weekend and cant wait.
Happy for you m8...
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mine has not got the chip in the key,as it is a early one,it does have the light in the key and it works *cough* sometimes
a good key and a fob makes all the difference....
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mine doesnt have a red key or a red ford imobiler,

it did have a vecta fitted from new though that was rippe out a long time ago when it started playing up
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i've no red key or red immobiliser is the immobiliser likey to fuck up often had a clifford concept 500 alarm in it but i ripped it out to fuck cos it was a real pain in the arse
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what year is your car??
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statto

what year is your car??
early '93 mate, the one with out airbags, why?
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You wouldnt have had red IGN keys or a big red wipac immobiliser key, though you would have had a Vecta immobiliser which is a little black and red key (If its still in place)
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Originally Posted by Damo V
You wouldnt have had red IGN keys or a big red wipac immobiliser key, though you would have had a Vecta immobiliser which is a little black and red key (If its still in place)
all i have is the immobiliser beside the gear stick, with the we push in fob thingy
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IS THE HANDLE OF THE PLUG IN BIT BLACK, WITH THE BIT THAT GOES IN THE HOLE RED, WITH I THINK 3 METAL STRIPS ON ONE SIDE AND 4 ON THE OTHER...?

IF SO THIS IS A VECTA AFTERMARKET IMOBILISER
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To bring this tread back from the dead ! but did a search and found this post so thought i would just add to it,

Just putting my Escos back on the road, i cannot find the spares keys, I do have the Rey key but my local ford parts guy took the chip out of it back in the day to for some reason,

Anyway my question, what circuit does it immobilise ? as i have gone onto a stand alone ECU so wondering if i need a key with a chip in anyway
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