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thanks fella an just to see that comment from a genuine escos owner makes it all worth while
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i know for a fact my rep is going to impress some genuine cosworth owners as its running a focus rs engine with around 350 bhp till i decide if i want more power... its also going to have alot more parts that genuine cosworths dont even have.. and yes i will be doing track days and yes i
want to do santa pod to see how it comepares to the real deal
want to do santa pod to see how it comepares to the real deal
I've had a 300bhp fwd car before I got the Escort, and there is no way you can compare two cars like that.
And what do you mean your car will have a lot more parts than genuine Cosworths?
either way you look at reps, i am still a ford enthusiast, fords have always been my faviourite cars, when its time to sell my rep i know for a fact it will only be to make way for a escort cosworth or a focus cosworth project and thats where the good rep owners are different to the shitty ones as were still into the scene regardless of what we drive..
I wouldnt fit one to my white one if I was given it for free, and as quite a few of you know, I love my carbon. But that doesnt mean replacing everything with it will look good...
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i have just gone out and taken apart my cosworth, great fun..... not
would much rather just pay the money and have the real deal than mess around with adding parts to a car that at the end of the day, is never going to be worth anything
would much rather just pay the money and have the real deal than mess around with adding parts to a car that at the end of the day, is never going to be worth anything
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if there is know1 with reps that want to comment on this thread now can the mods close it in the next 1 week please as its getting off topic now it was never started as i said for opinions on weather or not reps should be allowed on the roads,built or what people can an cant spend there money on read original post then stick 2 the thread please!!!!!!!
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if there is know1 with reps that want to comment on this thread now can the mods close it in the next 1 week please as its getting off topic now it was never started as i said for opinions on weather or not reps should be allowed on the roads,built or what people can an cant spend there money on read original post then stick 2 the thread please!!!!!!!
Also, fair play for building what i consider to be a very good rep. I hope some of the comments in here haven't put you or any of the other rep owners off off finishing their projects.
piece out..................
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Why not ask the mods to set up your own rep section on pf and leave the escort cosworth section for real ESCORT COSWORTHS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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so i say f**k off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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it is a good comparison,you are taking a part from another car and fitting it to a lesser model to make it look like the better model which it will never be but it will be a replica of the better car.if folk want to spend money doing whatever they want to their cars then let them.folk with esco's take leather from lux models to better their car or to make it lux spec,folk take 1.6 3 door shells and build 3 door reps.how many escort mk1,mk2,mk3,mk4 standard 2 door shells have ended up as rs replicas,thousands ill bet.
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it is a good comparison,you are taking a part from another car and fitting it to a lesser model to make it look like the better model which it will never be but it will be a replica of the better car.if folk want to spend money doing whatever they want to their cars then let them.folk with esco's take leather from lux models to better their car or to make it lux spec,folk take 1.6 3 door shells and build 3 door reps.how many escort mk1,mk2,mk3,mk4 standard 2 door shells have ended up as rs replicas,thousands ill bet.
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it is a good comparison,you are taking a part from another car and fitting it to a lesser model to make it look like the better model which it will never be but it will be a replica of the better car.if folk want to spend money doing whatever they want to their cars then let them.folk with esco's take leather from lux models to better their car or to make it lux spec,folk take 1.6 3 door shells and build 3 door reps.how many escort mk1,mk2,mk3,mk4 standard 2 door shells have ended up as rs replicas,thousands ill bet.
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the fact is right now i cannot save up 12+ grand for a genuine cosworth as i am 19 and at any opertunity i piss my money up the wall. So building my replica peice by peice spending 300 a week on parts is a lot easier than saving up for the real deal, as by the time ive saved 2 or 3 grand ill end up buying another motorbike
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right there is what i dont get! you spend 300 pound a week on bits. i dont even earn that a week.you have a spoiler worth 1k on a rep.and you are spunking money on booze.
if you were to save all that you really arent far from a real one mate
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and you couldve had a saff by now.and been getting important experience in a real cossie and the insurance history on a perfomance car
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[QUOTE=JHS;3850053]So in your eyes a Cosworth normally fitted with a 205 block is a replica if you swap the engine for one with a 200 block?
[/QUOTno,because that doesnt change the appearance of the car,but fitting bumpers and spoilers does.and is the rear beam not mounted different on a 500 aswel.im not posting on this thread again as there are too many keyboard warriors with their heads up their own arses.esco's are just a basic 3 door escort shells with some fancy wings and an old sierra floorpan anyway,i dont see whats so special about them anyway.
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Point proven, you ARE talking out of your hoop
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So in your eyes a Cosworth normally fitted with a 205 block is a replica if you swap the engine for one with a 200 block?
[/QUOTno,because that doesnt change the appearance of the car,but fitting bumpers and spoilers does.and is the rear beam not mounted different on a 500 aswel.im not posting on this thread again as there are too many keyboard warriors with their heads up their own arses.esco's are just a basic 3 door escort shells with some fancy wings and an old sierra floorpan anyway,i dont see whats so special about them anyway.
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Point proven, you ARE talking out of your hoop
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I have had a good rep used a mk5 rs2000 for my base, It had gen windows, interior, alloys, morettes, private plate, banana pod.
It got good comments, It was my daily car to get to work.
There where some things you could tell it was not genuine, Rear wings did not meet lower spoiler, no gauges showing boost,oil etc.
You will get alot of people stopping to look and ask if its real. Most did think it was real.
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It got good comments, It was my daily car to get to work.
There where some things you could tell it was not genuine, Rear wings did not meet lower spoiler, no gauges showing boost,oil etc.
You will get alot of people stopping to look and ask if its real. Most did think it was real.
Some pics to give you a idea.
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pmsl at 155lee. contradict yourself mate. if you are bothered about an rs500 not being classed as a 3dr because the rear beam is different,the block is different,the bumpers are different etc etc how can you say the escort cos is a basic escort cos shell? do you know how many panels are the same as the basic car? why do you think they are 12k upward and an rs2k etc isnt?
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bullet, its just the roof aint it thats from the original escort?
The escos is a special car and is not like any escort that came of the production line.
a real owner knows this
The escos is a special car and is not like any escort that came of the production line.
a real owner knows this
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the escos is a sierra floorpan its arnd a foot bigger than a rep but side on you cant tell also the doors are the same the tailgates are the same the wingmirrors are the same the doorpanels are the same the glass is the same so think ur talking out ur arse when u say its a SPECIAL CAR any real owner knows that??
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There some complete pricks here.
The guy for starters wanted to see some reps to get ideas, what they had done to their rep.
Not for anyone fucking opinion on them.
The guy for starters wanted to see some reps to get ideas, what they had done to their rep.
Not for anyone fucking opinion on them.
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nah mate i think its a good debate 1 thats long overdue showing people exactly how escos owners are and how they think there superior 2 people with lesser motors(AS I SAID NOT MEANT TO ALL OF U AS SOME ARE PRETTY NICE GUYS)but they know who they are and they probably had lesser cars once there self
u know something aswell ive owned a sierra sapphire cosworth 4x4 425bhp so i have owned a cossie but when me an the mrs moved into a house we had to down grade i wanted a genuine escos after the saph but sircumstances prohibited that but i can tell u this much if and ahen i do get a cossie i wont be bitter towards lads with reps
u know something aswell ive owned a sierra sapphire cosworth 4x4 425bhp so i have owned a cossie but when me an the mrs moved into a house we had to down grade i wanted a genuine escos after the saph but sircumstances prohibited that but i can tell u this much if and ahen i do get a cossie i wont be bitter towards lads with reps
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I cant see whats the problem of having a reps, Its done with
Focus Rs
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No one else complains.
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No one else complains.
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i had "lesser" cars as said.but they didnt look like something they werent as its not what i would want.
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a 3 door is a 3 door,an rs500 is a SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION of the 3 door with different rear beam mounts,block,plenum,bumpers and spoiler,thats why they cost a lot more.anyway 3 doors aside you are obviously too thick to see the point im trying to make so ill leave it at that,least the replicas wont go rusty around the petrol flap as itll be fibreglass,thats 1 advantage of a rep!
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I think some reps are nice, All depending on skills, resources and funds
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yes mate good point i saw a thread on here where a guy had done a rep on a rs focus done the engine an everything and these dicks loved it must of had 3000 posts all good and nice comments so i guess if i put the engine and running gear in(WHICH I AINT DOING CUZ COSTS A FUKIN FORTUNE)then they will all think its ok but i dont give a fuck what they think ive asked mum an dad 2 most import people on the planet and they say its ok so thats good enuff for me![Banana](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/banana_dance.gif)
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I remember everyone liked the Cossie rep used in the greenlight insurance Ad.
Its like saying a mk2 RS2000 REP rubbish because its not the real deal.
I don't think anyone going to say its rubbish.
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a 3 door is a 3 door,an rs500 is a SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION of the 3 door with different rear beam mounts,block,plenum,bumpers and spoiler,thats why they cost a lot more.anyway 3 doors aside you are obviously too thick to see the point im trying to make so ill leave it at that,least the replicas wont go rusty around the petrol flap as itll be fibreglass,thats 1 advantage of a rep!
pmsl.was i rude to you in anyway? no.
you dont know me at all,yet me having an opinion on the way you were trying to get people to see your point makes you insult me. lol never mind mate i wont hold it against you.
my point was that there is a 3dr cosworth of which they made the rs500 a far improved ltd edition done for motorsport reasons.
remember they also did a 1.3 and 1.6 3dr,so does that make the cossie and 500 the same as a basic 1.3?
the escort cosworth is the 500 of the escort name.it is THE special one. so how can you say its just a basic 3dr escort?
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Exactly someone has seen my point I remember the Focus Rs, everyone liked it because it was nice, It was built to a high standard. But it was still a rep at the end of the day.
I remember everyone liked the Cossie rep used in the greenlight insurance Ad.
Its like saying a mk2 RS2000 REP rubbish because its not the real deal.
I don't think anyone going to say its rubbish.
I remember everyone liked the Cossie rep used in the greenlight insurance Ad.
Its like saying a mk2 RS2000 REP rubbish because its not the real deal.
I don't think anyone going to say its rubbish.
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right there is what i dont get! you spend 300 pound a week on bits. i dont even earn that a week.you have a spoiler worth 1k on a rep.and you are spunking money on booze.
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and you couldve had a saff by now.and been getting important experience in a real cossie and the insurance history on a perfomance car![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
if you were to save all that you really arent far from a real one mate
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and you couldve had a saff by now.and been getting important experience in a real cossie and the insurance history on a perfomance car
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all the expensive cosworth bits ive bought will be kept to go on a genuine cosworth when i get one, the rest will be split.. but for now this is a project and whatever happens happens
im not going to comment on this thread anymore its gone way ott and that not aimed at you (bullet) but in general
it seems to me reps make there owners more happy as they have made it to what it is, taken the time and effort to make it right and perfect it, then when its done they drive it every day attracting the looks and respect of other motorists day in day out
genuine cosworth owners keep them locked up untill the odd sunny day which i can understand but its not where it should be in my eyes, it should be on the road making its presence aware
but all this bickering doesnt do anything for me my replys can be quoted as many times as they want to get me to bite but from now on im not going to reply to this thread.
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thats fair enough matey.we all have opinions and views. just some people cant take it.
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im glad you didnt take offence to anything i said.i was trying not to be patronising.and also used the smilies so you knew i wasnt being a cock to you.
i cant save for toffee's either. thats why i have always had loans in the past. i have to pay a certain amount for a certain time and i dont notice it.but if its cash sitting there i splash.
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im glad you didnt take offence to anything i said.i was trying not to be patronising.and also used the smilies so you knew i wasnt being a cock to you.
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Look mate i was just saying why come into a forum where you have some dedicated people to there cars and ask questions about reps when you must know that you were going to get a load of abuse . Also can you point out to me where i said i was royalty, i dont remember saying anything like that and how do you know i own an escos your jumping to conclusions without having all the facts.
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To the rep owners getting rather touchy here, go back to the first page and see who started the discussion genuine vs replica. Its you guys with the reps saying that genuine ones are unreliable etc etc. Do you really think you can just come on here and more or less say genuine Escort Cosworths are unreliable and the owners are snobs and so on without any debate? Last time I checked this was the Escort Cosworth room on a public forum.
Personally I dont care what you lot drive or what it looks like, but when you start talking nonsense about the genuine ones that you obviously have no facts to back up with I will get defensive. Like most of the other owners on here.
If you're going to tell me Im a snob or whatever then why dont you do it in person? Didnt have anyone come say anything like that when I drove the cars that apparently never get used from Norway to Ford Fair...
Personally I dont care what you lot drive or what it looks like, but when you start talking nonsense about the genuine ones that you obviously have no facts to back up with I will get defensive. Like most of the other owners on here.
If you're going to tell me Im a snob or whatever then why dont you do it in person? Didnt have anyone come say anything like that when I drove the cars that apparently never get used from Norway to Ford Fair...
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To the rep owners getting rather touchy here, go back to the first page and see who started the discussion genuine vs replica. Its you guys with the reps saying that genuine ones are unreliable etc etc. Do you really think you can just come on here and more or less say genuine Escort Cosworths are unreliable and the owners are snobs and so on without any debate? Last time I checked this was the Escort Cosworth room on a public forum.
Personally I dont care what you lot drive or what it looks like, but when you start talking nonsense about the genuine ones that you obviously have no facts to back up with I will get defensive. Like most of the other owners on here.
If you're going to tell me Im a snob or whatever then why dont you do it in person? Didnt have anyone come say anything like that when I drove the cars that apparently never get used from Norway to Ford Fair...
Personally I dont care what you lot drive or what it looks like, but when you start talking nonsense about the genuine ones that you obviously have no facts to back up with I will get defensive. Like most of the other owners on here.
If you're going to tell me Im a snob or whatever then why dont you do it in person? Didnt have anyone come say anything like that when I drove the cars that apparently never get used from Norway to Ford Fair...
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To the rep owners getting rather touchy here, go back to the first page and see who started the discussion genuine vs replica. Its you guys with the reps saying that genuine ones are unreliable etc etc. Do you really think you can just come on here and more or less say genuine Escort Cosworths are unreliable and the owners are snobs and so on without any debate? Last time I checked this was the Escort Cosworth room on a public forum.
Personally I dont care what you lot drive or what it looks like, but when you start talking nonsense about the genuine ones that you obviously have no facts to back up with I will get defensive. Like most of the other owners on here.
If you're going to tell me Im a snob or whatever then why dont you do it in person? Didnt have anyone come say anything like that when I drove the cars that apparently never get used from Norway to Ford Fair...
Personally I dont care what you lot drive or what it looks like, but when you start talking nonsense about the genuine ones that you obviously have no facts to back up with I will get defensive. Like most of the other owners on here.
If you're going to tell me Im a snob or whatever then why dont you do it in person? Didnt have anyone come say anything like that when I drove the cars that apparently never get used from Norway to Ford Fair...
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How long do you think it will take you to complete your project?
Genuine question!
And do you have a car at the moment etc (other then the project)
Just thinking out loud...
But if you're spending 300 quid a week on parts, thats over 15 and a half grand in a year you're spending on car parts...
Add that to what you've got already, and I would seriously have a think if I were you..
Yes - insurance will be horrendous, but take into account the money you could recoup from the project thus far, and the savings, and i'd say within 8 months or so you could be in a genuine Escos!
I know what I'd do... (and did for that matter. I was going to build a zetec turbo engine for an xr2 that I had bought... Got rid of the xr2, sacked the ZT idea off, and saved like an absolute cunt for 6 months. Et voila - one escos cosworth)
How long do you think it will take you to complete your project?
Genuine question!
And do you have a car at the moment etc (other then the project)
Just thinking out loud...
But if you're spending 300 quid a week on parts, thats over 15 and a half grand in a year you're spending on car parts...
Add that to what you've got already, and I would seriously have a think if I were you..
Yes - insurance will be horrendous, but take into account the money you could recoup from the project thus far, and the savings, and i'd say within 8 months or so you could be in a genuine Escos!
I know what I'd do... (and did for that matter. I was going to build a zetec turbo engine for an xr2 that I had bought... Got rid of the xr2, sacked the ZT idea off, and saved like an absolute cunt for 6 months. Et voila - one escos cosworth)
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Mc goo 69 -
How long do you think it will take you to complete your project?
Genuine question!
And do you have a car at the moment etc (other then the project)
Just thinking out loud...
But if you're spending 300 quid a week on parts, thats over 15 and a half grand in a year you're spending on car parts...
Add that to what you've got already, and I would seriously have a think if I were you..
Yes - insurance will be horrendous, but take into account the money you could recoup from the project thus far, and the savings, and i'd say within 8 months or so you could be in a genuine Escos!
I know what I'd do... (and did for that matter. I was going to build a zetec turbo engine for an xr2 that I had bought... Got rid of the xr2, sacked the ZT idea off, and saved like an absolute cunt for 6 months. Et voila - one escos cosworth)
How long do you think it will take you to complete your project?
Genuine question!
And do you have a car at the moment etc (other then the project)
Just thinking out loud...
But if you're spending 300 quid a week on parts, thats over 15 and a half grand in a year you're spending on car parts...
Add that to what you've got already, and I would seriously have a think if I were you..
Yes - insurance will be horrendous, but take into account the money you could recoup from the project thus far, and the savings, and i'd say within 8 months or so you could be in a genuine Escos!
I know what I'd do... (and did for that matter. I was going to build a zetec turbo engine for an xr2 that I had bought... Got rid of the xr2, sacked the ZT idea off, and saved like an absolute cunt for 6 months. Et voila - one escos cosworth)
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anyones help would be very appreciated thanks
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