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28-12-2008, 12:28 AM
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so u think mine looks shite???
.... Not having a go at you personally, but I REALLY just don't get the point in reps that 999 times out of 1000 look shite compared to the real thing?
28-12-2008, 02:24 AM
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As they go mate yours isn't too bad, but it is fucking hard work to make one that looks spot on, things like the rear bumper on yours with the towing eye etc... to make one that is 99.9% good will cost the same as a decent Escort Cosworth, simple as.
28-12-2008, 07:23 AM
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28-12-2008, 06:26 PM
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thanks but mine is still work in progress i adressing that problem but rather than buying a genuine back bumper cos there silly money im cutting the hole out where the towing eye goes and fitting a cap into my rear bumper also im replacing back box with genuine 1 changing doors to mk5 keeping small mirrors and putting white powder coated rl17/18s on her and doing the same to front bumper as with rear bumper mite even go as far as cutting original towing ring off cutting spare wheel well out and welding a diff in place of spare wheel dont acyually know if its possible yet but will look into it my aim is 2 have the best rep in the country also it will be turbod hopefully by ffo9
28-12-2008, 06:28 PM
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I personally think yours is defiantly one of the better ones mate. Obviously genuine cosworth owners will always be able to tell its a rep though, but im sure it fools 95% of people.
Youve obviously put alot of work into it, but id just change a few little things personally. Id change the mk5 escort twin headlight to the proper cosworth twin headlights or put standard cosworth headlights on. Id try and do something with the fuel cap as no genuine cosworth would have an alloy one, maybe paint it black??? Id try and get the mk5 doors and handles on it too, instead of the mk6 ones you have now. Oh and get a private plate to get rid of the R reg. Theres the few things that jump out at me that would instantly tell me its a rep, the headlights being the blantantly obvious giveaway. All in my opinion of course mate, but i suppose it all depends on how far you want to go with it.
Youve obviously put alot of work into it, but id just change a few little things personally. Id change the mk5 escort twin headlight to the proper cosworth twin headlights or put standard cosworth headlights on. Id try and do something with the fuel cap as no genuine cosworth would have an alloy one, maybe paint it black??? Id try and get the mk5 doors and handles on it too, instead of the mk6 ones you have now. Oh and get a private plate to get rid of the R reg. Theres the few things that jump out at me that would instantly tell me its a rep, the headlights being the blantantly obvious giveaway. All in my opinion of course mate, but i suppose it all depends on how far you want to go with it.
28-12-2008, 06:37 PM
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I personally think yours is defiantly one of the better ones mate. Obviously genuine cosworth owners will always be able to tell its a rep though, but im sure it fools 95% of people.
Youve obviously put alot of work into it, but id just change a few little things personally. Id change the mk5 escort twin headlight to the proper cosworth twin headlights or put standard cosworth headlights on. Id try and do something with the fuel cap as no genuine cosworth would have an alloy one, maybe paint it black??? Id try and get the mk5 doors and handles on it too, instead of the mk6 ones you have now. Oh and get a private plate to get rid of the R reg. Theres the few things that jump out at me that would instantly tell me its a rep, the headlights being the blantantly obvious giveaway. All in my opinion of course mate, but i suppose it all depends on how far you want to go with it.
Youve obviously put alot of work into it, but id just change a few little things personally. Id change the mk5 escort twin headlight to the proper cosworth twin headlights or put standard cosworth headlights on. Id try and do something with the fuel cap as no genuine cosworth would have an alloy one, maybe paint it black??? Id try and get the mk5 doors and handles on it too, instead of the mk6 ones you have now. Oh and get a private plate to get rid of the R reg. Theres the few things that jump out at me that would instantly tell me its a rep, the headlights being the blantantly obvious giveaway. All in my opinion of course mate, but i suppose it all depends on how far you want to go with it.
28-12-2008, 06:50 PM
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Good luck with the project. Dont forget though, how ever much you try to get it spot on, youll still get the 'is it real' comments. 
I get them all the time, in fact its usually the first thing that people ask. I had someone ask me today as it happens
I think one of the main reasons for this is that there seems to be more replicas than real ones.
I also find it strange that when someone gets talking to me about the car when in the petrol station or outside when cleaning it etc, they always seem to have a brother/uncle/dad/cousin/mate who has or has had a cosworth before, and it always seems to be saffs that they have/had, and never escorts.
Very strange. Any other escos owners get this???
28-12-2008, 06:56 PM
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yeah i saw your post after id posted mate. Good luck with the project. Dont forget though, how ever much you try to get it spot on, youll still get the 'is it real' comments. I get them all the time, in fact its usually the first thing that people ask.
I had someone ask me today as it happens
I think one of the main reasons for this is that there seems to be more replicas than real ones.
I also find it strange that when someone gets talking to me about the car when in the petrol station or outside when cleaning it etc, they always seem to have a brother/uncle/dad/cousin/mate who has or has had a cosworth before, and it always seems to be saffs that they have/had, and never escorts. Very strange. Any other escos owners get this???
Good luck with the project. Dont forget though, how ever much you try to get it spot on, youll still get the 'is it real' comments. I get them all the time, in fact its usually the first thing that people ask. I had someone ask me today as it happens
I think one of the main reasons for this is that there seems to be more replicas than real ones.
I also find it strange that when someone gets talking to me about the car when in the petrol station or outside when cleaning it etc, they always seem to have a brother/uncle/dad/cousin/mate who has or has had a cosworth before, and it always seems to be saffs that they have/had, and never escorts.
Very strange. Any other escos owners get this???
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thanks but mine is still work in progress i adressing that problem but rather than buying a genuine back bumper cos there silly money im cutting the hole out where the towing eye goes and fitting a cap into my rear bumper also im replacing back box with genuine 1 changing doors to mk5 keeping small mirrors and putting white powder coated rl17/18s on her and doing the same to front bumper as with rear bumper mite even go as far as cutting original towing ring off cutting spare wheel well out and welding a diff in place of spare wheel dont acyually know if its possible yet but will look into it my aim is 2 have the best rep in the country also it will be turbod hopefully by ffo9
.... Small Turbos are fucking great cars and reliable, and easy to stage 1 to 280 BHP that will do 100,000 miles with just normal servicing....Might be able to find a spare diff casing and some rear shafts for you for very very cheap money if you are interested, I have stuff like rear diff hanger etc that you are welcome to if you want it.
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officially they can not even import ... they are all old from 7 years and can not pass homologation
otherwise in Croatia has perhaps twenty Escort and Sierra cosworth, most of them in excellent condition
this is my sierra
otherwise in Croatia has perhaps twenty Escort and Sierra cosworth, most of them in excellent condition
this is my sierra
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30-12-2008, 12:15 AM
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thanks but mine is still work in progress i adressing that problem but rather than buying a genuine back bumper cos there silly money im cutting the hole out where the towing eye goes and fitting a cap into my rear bumper also im replacing back box with genuine 1 changing doors to mk5 keeping small mirrors and putting white powder coated rl17/18s on her and doing the same to front bumper as with rear bumper mite even go as far as cutting original towing ring off cutting spare wheel well out and welding a diff in place of spare wheel dont acyually know if its possible yet but will look into it my aim is 2 have the best rep in the country also it will be turbod hopefully by ffo9
What are you possibly trying to achieve?? a feature in maxpower or something???Just save for the real deal. Youll have spent the same money just to make your fake car as good as your planning and it still will be a fake and wont go or handle the same nor offer a similar driving experience!!
30-12-2008, 06:10 AM
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30-12-2008, 09:07 AM
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thanks but mine is still work in progress i adressing that problem but rather than buying a genuine back bumper cos there silly money im cutting the hole out where the towing eye goes and fitting a cap into my rear bumper also im replacing back box with genuine 1 changing doors to mk5 keeping small mirrors and putting white powder coated rl17/18s on her and doing the same to front bumper as with rear bumper mite even go as far as cutting original towing ring off cutting spare wheel well out and welding a diff in place of spare wheel dont acyually know if its possible yet but will look into it my aim is 2 have the best rep in the country also it will be turbod hopefully by ffo9
So what are you doing regarding your current rear beam if you're fitting a fake rear diff?Have a think about what you've just written and what the replies have been... No matter how many fake diffs or spoilers you add it will never be a Escort Cosworth, you're spending a lot of time and money on something thats pretty much worthless when you come to selling it
30-12-2008, 09:28 AM
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30-12-2008, 11:04 AM
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I always thought that the idea of a replica was to impress other people, who may confuse it for the real deal.
Most replica's do not push out decent power as such people can not be building them and expecting a decent driving experience from a 1.6 and spoiler
Most replica's do not push out decent power as such people can not be building them and expecting a decent driving experience from a 1.6 and spoiler
30-12-2008, 04:18 PM
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[quote=JHS;3836822] So what are you doing regarding your current rear beam if you're fitting a fake rear diff?
Have a think about what you've just written and what the replies have been... No matter how many fake diffs or spoilers you add it will never be a Escort Cosworth, you're spending a lot of time and money on something thats pretty much worthless when you come to selling it[/quot
dont acyually know if its possible yet but will look into it this was my original post if u look as said before im not interested in ur opinions on weather or not i should do things or what u think i should spend my money on i will have a real 1 eventually but for now this is my project are people not allowed 2 have projects no mater how much they cost and yeah i would like to feature it in a magazine that ok with you!!!!
So what are you doing regarding your current rear beam if you're fitting a fake rear diff?Have a think about what you've just written and what the replies have been... No matter how many fake diffs or spoilers you add it will never be a Escort Cosworth, you're spending a lot of time and money on something thats pretty much worthless when you come to selling it
[/quotdont acyually know if its possible yet but will look into it this was my original post if u look as said before im not interested in ur opinions on weather or not i should do things or what u think i should spend my money on i will have a real 1 eventually but for now this is my project are people not allowed 2 have projects no mater how much they cost and yeah i would like to feature it in a magazine that ok with you!!!!
30-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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see ive been 17 for a few months and have had a DREAM OF building a replica since i could talk so i was just wondering if any of you fine fellows could recomend the best reg car to buy to build the martini cosworth replica any sugestions will be a big help thanx
30-12-2008, 10:34 PM
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anyway moving on make sure that the kit u fit is fibreglass otherwise the wheels wont sit in the arches correctly it has been done with genuine panels i.e steel but because the esccos runs a sierra saphire floor pan there arnd a foot longer i believe which puts front wheels out of alignment i think there are adjustable lower arms available to correct that but dont quote me on it also make sure rear wings meet lower spoiler this is a dead giveaway for it being a replica
also make sure u dont use to many fake bigger parts especially front and rear bumpers as they dont have the towing eye covers because the esccos has diffrently located towing eyes also u will need genuine dashboard with genuine instruments i.e dash clock speedo and centre bannana pod with guages and another tip the centre guages dont light up unless u have the genuine 170mph clocks trust me i know an u wont get oil guage to work unless u have an electronic oil feed from the filter i think the rs2000 does have that tho also if ur fitting the genuine bonnet on a rs2000 the drivers side vent always catches the top of the cambelt cover so u will need to cut some of the vent away and u will need to move the map sensor to the bulkhead as when it rains it wets the map sensor under the drivers vent and fucks it up i went through 3 map sensors before i found this out hope this helps if u need any more info just ask ive built 3 of these check out the rallye rep that was a rs2000 186bhp
31-12-2008, 06:01 AM
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31-12-2008, 08:45 AM
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My girlfriend bought the real deal on her 19th birthday ... Took her to see a few focus rs's & she picked a polaris grey escort cosworth ... A few months down the line I broke it ... Forked out some money to fix it ... a few months after that found out we were having a baby ... so we sold it, I MISSED IT LIKE MAD! So she bought a mk2 escort, got a n/a cosworth engine on carbs & i now have some rwd!! I did like the attention you get in an escort cosworth, the look on everyones face that said "oooo look he's in his daddy's car" when no its the mrs lol was funny
but the fun I have in the mk2 is unbelievable! I have been offered escort cosworths for it & focus rs's but even the mrs says no lol
Anyway my point is they are fantastic cars but i would say their more of a statement car ... and no I wouldnt spend money on making a rep not theres nothing wrong on doing so its just i preffer having the real deal ..
but the fun I have in the mk2 is unbelievable! I have been offered escort cosworths for it & focus rs's but even the mrs says no lol
Anyway my point is they are fantastic cars but i would say their more of a statement car ... and no I wouldnt spend money on making a rep not theres nothing wrong on doing so its just i preffer having the real deal ..
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personally id rather have a decent looking escort rep than go down the road of some japanese fast and furious tat that you see going around....... least they are paying compliments to an iconic car.... you boys with escorts should be proud to have these guys look up to you and your car.....
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02-01-2009, 01:57 AM
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i think if somebody cant afford the real thing or to insure it when they are young then whats the problem?ill bet that any person on here wouldnt cruise down to their local haunt with a bog standard 1.4 3 door escort on steelies when they are 17,but if they turned up in a well done escos replica then they have instant respect from their friends,thats the whole point in being into cars,theres a whole industry supplying bodykits,wheels etc etc etc!then when the folk with replicas are old enough they probably will buy a proper escos or similar.i dont agree with sheds though,they are crap and a waste of money but a well done car gets my respect as i appreciate how much hard work goes into 1.next folk will be saying anybody with a 3 door with an rs500 bumper should be ashamed to drive it as its a replica!this whole thread has gotten a bit sad,people who build tidy reps should be getting praise as they are the next generation of ford enthusiasts.
02-01-2009, 03:14 PM
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i think if somebody cant afford the real thing or to insure it when they are young then whats the problem?ill bet that any person on here wouldnt cruise down to their local haunt with a bog standard 1.4 3 door escort on steelies when they are 17,but if they turned up in a well done escos replica then they have instant respect from their friends,thats the whole point in being into cars,theres a whole industry supplying bodykits,wheels etc etc etc!then when the folk with replicas are old enough they probably will buy a proper escos or similar.i dont agree with sheds though,they are crap and a waste of money but a well done car gets my respect as i appreciate how much hard work goes into 1.next folk will be saying anybody with a 3 door with an rs500 bumper should be ashamed to drive it as its a replica!this whole thread has gotten a bit sad,people who build tidy reps should be getting praise as they are the next generation of ford enthusiasts.
the fact is right now i cannot save up 12+ grand for a genuine cosworth as i am 19 and at any opertunity i piss my money up the wall. So building my replica peice by peice spending 300 a week on parts is a lot easier than saving up for the real deal, as by the time ive saved 2 or 3 grand ill end up buying another motorbike
i agree with everyone on here who say replicas are good when done right, look at all the gt40 reps, the rs200 reps, the cobra reps etc no one moans about them as there classed as a gt40 kit car and so on...
but i do hate the shit reps as there not giving the same respect to the legendary cosworth, there just cheap chavvy halfords shite... escort mk6 5doors with whale tails always make me laugh
i know for a fact my rep is going to impress some genuine cosworth owners as its running a focus rs engine with around 350 bhp till i decide if i want more power... its also going to have alot more parts that genuine cosworths dont even have.. and yes i will be doing track days and yes i want to do santa pod to see how it comepares to the real deal
its a project for me so what if it aint 4wd or the right length, ive learnt a hell of a lot doing my rep which i wouldnt have learnd buying a std car..
either way you look at reps, i am still a ford enthusiast, fords have always been my faviourite cars, when its time to sell my rep i know for a fact it will only be to make way for a escort cosworth or a focus cosworth project and thats where the good rep owners are different to the shitty ones as were still into the scene regardless of what we drive..
oh and for all you genuine cosworth owners do you have a carbon fibre whale tail????
no?
well my rep does
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thats the best point that has been made on this thread so far! ive been reading (looking at the pictures) this thread all the way through and not commented much (Cos i'm a bit s l o w) as theres to many bellends on here who have genuine escort cosworths (And I'm jelous as fuck so I will have a pop at people with proper cars) who wont give the time of day to anyone who's car isnt as supirior to theres (See above)...
the fact is right now i cannot save up 12+ grand for a genuine cosworth (hey, a Macdonalds one star isn't the best paid job!) as i am 19 and at any opertunity i piss my money up the wall. (Cos I am a burberry wearing chav) So building my replica peice by peice spending 300 a week on parts is a lot easier than saving up for the real deal, as by the time ive saved 2 or 3 grand ill end up buying another motorbike(Sorry a peugeout speedflight is NOT a motorbike)
i agree with everyone (who can't afford a real one) on here who say replicas are good when done right,(If you are Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles) look at all the gt40 reps, the rs200 reps, the cobra reps etc no one moans about them (least they are RWD and fast and based on an ultra-rare car) as there classed as a gt40 kit car and so on...
but i do hate the shit reps( I wish I hadn't spunked my dole money on this shit bodykit, but I might as well stick with it now) as there not giving the same respect to the legendary cosworth, there just cheap chavvy halfords shite (oops , see above again)... escort mk6 5doors with whale tails always make me laugh (I aspire to upgrade from my 1.3 bonus mk5 soon)
i know for a fact my rep is going to impress some genuine (13 year old cruise slappers, and the drunk old man who shouts at traffic outside the off licence, and maybe even the chav with the xr3i at KFC) cosworth owners (Nope, thats a fail) as its running a focus rs engine (Still a 1.6 on the log book , for insurance fraud purposes) with around 350 bhp (proven on my homemade PC dyno "printout") till i decide if i want more power (that K&N filter is good for at least another 2.7BHP)... its also going to have alot more parts that genuine cosworths dont even have(No one with a genuine one wants a front wheel drive gearbox or under car neons or a set of LED rear lights....) .. and yes i will be doing track days (In the expert group, as i is fast,innit) and yes i want to do santa pod to see how (Badly I get embarrassed and how much oil I can leave on the track) it comepares to the real deal(I suppose it shares a Ford badge)
its a project for me so what if it aint 4wd or the right length,(great rep then, don't worry about the minor details then) ive learnt a hell of a lot doing my rep (how to waste my money on a fibreglass wrong wheel drive peice of shit thats worth nothing when I try to sell it on Ebay for 20k) which i wouldnt have learnd buying a std car..(how good a real car is)
either way you look at reps,(do we have to?) i am still a ford enthusiast, fords have always been my faviourite cars, when its time to sell my rep i know for a fact it will only be to(fund my drug habit) make way for a escort cosworth or a focus cosworth project (that I should have bought in the first place,but it has taken 20k and a lot of being laughed at to realize that yes, I did fuck up) and thats where the good rep owners are different to the shitty ones ( we can actually convice ourselfs it was worthwhile, ut you are only lying to yourself) as were still into the scene regardless of what we drive..
oh and for all you genuine cosworth owners do you have a carbon fibre whale tail????(See, who wants 4x4, rally pedigree and a turbocharged YB with huge tuning potential and a full leather interior, what you REALLY want is a fake carbon fibre effect spoiler, to impress those 13 year old cruise slappers)
no?(Nope, still on your own here)
well my rep does (Whoop-de-fucking-doo)
the fact is right now i cannot save up 12+ grand for a genuine cosworth (hey, a Macdonalds one star isn't the best paid job!) as i am 19 and at any opertunity i piss my money up the wall. (Cos I am a burberry wearing chav) So building my replica peice by peice spending 300 a week on parts is a lot easier than saving up for the real deal, as by the time ive saved 2 or 3 grand ill end up buying another motorbike(Sorry a peugeout speedflight is NOT a motorbike)
i agree with everyone (who can't afford a real one) on here who say replicas are good when done right,(If you are Stevie Wonder or Ray Charles) look at all the gt40 reps, the rs200 reps, the cobra reps etc no one moans about them (least they are RWD and fast and based on an ultra-rare car) as there classed as a gt40 kit car and so on...
but i do hate the shit reps( I wish I hadn't spunked my dole money on this shit bodykit, but I might as well stick with it now) as there not giving the same respect to the legendary cosworth, there just cheap chavvy halfords shite (oops , see above again)... escort mk6 5doors with whale tails always make me laugh (I aspire to upgrade from my 1.3 bonus mk5 soon)
i know for a fact my rep is going to impress some genuine (13 year old cruise slappers, and the drunk old man who shouts at traffic outside the off licence, and maybe even the chav with the xr3i at KFC) cosworth owners (Nope, thats a fail) as its running a focus rs engine (Still a 1.6 on the log book , for insurance fraud purposes) with around 350 bhp (proven on my homemade PC dyno "printout") till i decide if i want more power (that K&N filter is good for at least another 2.7BHP)... its also going to have alot more parts that genuine cosworths dont even have(No one with a genuine one wants a front wheel drive gearbox or under car neons or a set of LED rear lights....) .. and yes i will be doing track days (In the expert group, as i is fast,innit) and yes i want to do santa pod to see how (Badly I get embarrassed and how much oil I can leave on the track) it comepares to the real deal(I suppose it shares a Ford badge)
its a project for me so what if it aint 4wd or the right length,(great rep then, don't worry about the minor details then) ive learnt a hell of a lot doing my rep (how to waste my money on a fibreglass wrong wheel drive peice of shit thats worth nothing when I try to sell it on Ebay for 20k) which i wouldnt have learnd buying a std car..(how good a real car is)
either way you look at reps,(do we have to?) i am still a ford enthusiast, fords have always been my faviourite cars, when its time to sell my rep i know for a fact it will only be to(fund my drug habit) make way for a escort cosworth or a focus cosworth project (that I should have bought in the first place,but it has taken 20k and a lot of being laughed at to realize that yes, I did fuck up) and thats where the good rep owners are different to the shitty ones ( we can actually convice ourselfs it was worthwhile, ut you are only lying to yourself) as were still into the scene regardless of what we drive..
oh and for all you genuine cosworth owners do you have a carbon fibre whale tail????(See, who wants 4x4, rally pedigree and a turbocharged YB with huge tuning potential and a full leather interior, what you REALLY want is a fake carbon fibre effect spoiler, to impress those 13 year old cruise slappers)
no?(Nope, still on your own here)
well my rep does
(Whoop-de-fucking-doo)N.B Please take this in the humourous vain it is intended
, I don't mean any of it seriously, but I am bored at work
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i've seen your car parked, i get a train home that goes passed where you live. Doesn't look a bad replica in all honesty, and at a glance to the untrained eye it looks real.
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awesome im glad you enjoyed yourself but thats the exact oposite of me
im a electrician for a start and not a chav.. that all im going to say you dont have to like my car but i am not a chav so dont hint at it else i will be suicidle!
as for the whale tail see my thread... its real
im a electrician for a start and not a chav.. that all im going to say you dont have to like my car but i am not a chav so dont hint at it else i will be suicidle!
as for the whale tail see my thread... its real
02-01-2009, 07:08 PM
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Mate I'm only playing, please don't take offence! I still can't get my head around the cost/result of reps, but fair play at least it is going to have a decent engine under it ..Each to thier own, be interesting to see the finished article 
..Each to thier own, be interesting to see the finished article
02-01-2009, 07:12 PM
#160
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i can understand why cosworth owners dont understand it cos its never going to drive the same... they never are but they will look similar which are just as important.. the way i see it you go out with a girl because shes good lucking not because she might be a good gf, you chase her for her looks lol
if i can get my rep to keep with a std cosworth on a track and a sprint its job done for me as i would have paid less than a std cosworth but i would have more extras like my carbon, comp mos etc
each to there own either way, im off out anyways so have a good un all