Coil over kits Escort Cosworth
30-09-2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
02-10-2007, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by V8 EsCos
Are any available with stainless bodies ?
Sure you can adjust the suspension to handle well and/or give the car a nice stance but from what I've seen they all just rust into a horrible mess after a while
Mark
Sure you can adjust the suspension to handle well and/or give the car a nice stance but from what I've seen they all just rust into a horrible mess after a while
Mark
I have seen an advertisement in passionford that had coil overs that didnt rust, but it wasnt an AVO or GAZ coil over.
On the otherhand..can you give an estimate of when they become rusty? After a year or are you talking about 5 tot 10 years everyday use?
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03-10-2007, 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by V8 EsCos
Are any available with stainless bodies ?
Sure you can adjust the suspension to handle well and/or give the car a nice stance but from what I've seen they all just rust into a horrible mess after a while
Mark
Sure you can adjust the suspension to handle well and/or give the car a nice stance but from what I've seen they all just rust into a horrible mess after a while
Mark
what about this?
http://www.kwsuspensions.de/uk/30_Pr...vers/index.php
stainless steel (!)
03-10-2007, 08:35 AM
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I have GAZ on my escos and im satisfied, good handling both on street and trackdays, one problem is if you lower the car the springs are loose when you lift your car.. so if you go for GAZ make sure you get the extra small springs to mount in the top. I try find a pic on my car and show you what i mean.
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03-10-2007, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by m-sport
I have GAZ on my escos and im satisfied, good handling both on street and trackdays, one problem is if you lower the car the springs are loose when you lift your car.. so if you go for GAZ make sure you get the extra small springs to mount in the top. I try find a pic on my car and show you what i mean.
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03-10-2007, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
really?
for only 1250 pounds they are twice as expensive as an AVO or GAZ
03-10-2007, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Ford
Deffo H&R
Deffo 1,5 times as expensive at around 1000 pounds...or can you supply me with a good address in holland?
03-10-2007, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
really?
for only 1250 pounds they are twice as expensive as an AVO or GAZ
03-10-2007, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by joo5ty
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Deffo H&R
Deffo 1,5 times as expensive at around 1000 pounds...or can you supply me with a good address in holland?
I've had them mounted on my previous Escort Cosworth. Superb!
www.autoshopmanders.nl can deliver them
Btw. What Escort Cosworth do you have?? Any pic's?? I saw you have you complete ERST for sale in parts???
03-10-2007, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
03-10-2007, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
I would hardly call fixed bump and rebound "almost the best" 
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but the ring spec ones are the next best thing hay mike
03-10-2007, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
I'm quite happy with this Setup
04-10-2007, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
Be aware that if you have 8" x 18" wheels and 225/40 tyres with the standard ET25 offset, you will need to "tweek" the spring cups of the dampers with a big hammer to stop them rubbing on the tyre
. Fitting ET15 wheels solves this .
04-10-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
Be aware that if you have 8" x 18" wheels and 225/40 tyres with the standard ET25 offset, you will need to "tweek" the spring cups of the dampers with a big hammer to stop them rubbing on the tyre
. Fitting ET15 wheels solves this .Ah yes ok, so this is another big plus when using coil over springs...together with lowering the car to the exact level you would like it what ever wheel you use and might buy in the future...I still think coil overs are nice to have, but just go for GAZ or AVO so you wont spend too much?!
How about that?
05-10-2007, 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by joo5ty
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
Be aware that if you have 8" x 18" wheels and 225/40 tyres with the standard ET25 offset, you will need to "tweek" the spring cups of the dampers with a big hammer to stop them rubbing on the tyre
. Fitting ET15 wheels solves this .Ah yes ok, so this is another big plus when using coil over springs...together with lowering the car to the exact level you would like it what ever wheel you use and might buy in the future...I still think coil overs are nice to have, but just go for GAZ or AVO so you wont spend too much?!
How about that?
I think about 25-30mm is the limit!
05-10-2007, 07:20 AM
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Mike how hard are the Ring spec coilovers to set up, would a tuner be able to set these up for optimum handling?
On the road, you run them on the softest settings, and they are MORE compliant than the Konis
.On a dry track you run them on position 7/8 (of 24) on the rear and position 18-24 (of 24) on the front, dependant on the type of corners. You can soon feel how the car is reacting, as 1 click makes a huge difference. If it is a really tight track, then you may need it to be a fraction softer (depending whether you can feel the back end "hopping").
On a wet track, I would recommend running the settings at either the softest or half way between the road and the dry track settings (depending on how slippery the track is). With a wet track, you want the car to roll about a bit to transfer weight to the relevant tyres to provide grip. If it is too hard, it will just slide.
05-10-2007, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
Be aware that if you have 8" x 18" wheels and 225/40 tyres with the standard ET25 offset, you will need to "tweek" the spring cups of the dampers with a big hammer to stop them rubbing on the tyre
. Fitting ET15 wheels solves this .
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cosworth3d should be easily fine mate.
had the above mentioned issues with my old Gaz, one of the fronts siezed and the other side bent the top. had to go back to gaz for them to fit new bodies to them
had the above mentioned issues with my old Gaz, one of the fronts siezed and the other side bent the top. had to go back to gaz for them to fit new bodies to them
05-10-2007, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
Be aware that if you have 8" x 18" wheels and 225/40 tyres with the standard ET25 offset, you will need to "tweek" the spring cups of the dampers with a big hammer to stop them rubbing on the tyre
. Fitting ET15 wheels solves this .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by MATCOS
Mike how hard are the Ring spec coilovers to set up, would a tuner be able to set these up for optimum handling?
On the road, you run them on the softest settings, and they are MORE compliant than the Konis
.On a dry track you run them on position 7/8 (of 24) on the rear and position 18-24 (of 24) on the front, dependant on the type of corners. You can soon feel how the car is reacting, as 1 click makes a huge difference. If it is a really tight track, then you may need it to be a fraction softer (depending whether you can feel the back end "hopping").
On a wet track, I would recommend running the settings at either the softest or half way between the road and the dry track settings (depending on how slippery the track is). With a wet track, you want the car to roll about a bit to transfer weight to the relevant tyres to provide grip. If it is too hard, it will just slide.
06-10-2007, 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. What are you going to use the car for?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
2. Why do you "think" you NEED coil-overs?
Be aware that if you have 8" x 18" wheels and 225/40 tyres with the standard ET25 offset, you will need to "tweek" the spring cups of the dampers with a big hammer to stop them rubbing on the tyre
. Fitting ET15 wheels solves this .
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cosworth3d - or tweek the spring cups as mentioned!!
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
07-10-2007, 02:22 PM
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cosworth3d - or tweek the spring cups as mentioned!!
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
07-10-2007, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Kelv
cosworth3d - or tweek the spring cups as mentioned!!
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
07-10-2007, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
Originally Posted by cosworth3d
Originally Posted by Kelv
cosworth3d - or tweek the spring cups as mentioned!!
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
Koni's and decent springs is a good suspension setup, and tweeking the spring cup is easy enough to do
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Did drive a 3door this summer with gaz coilovers, as Mike sais, the standard springs are badly matched to the dampers, making it a very BOUNCY ride.. springs to hard and rebound to loose.. make the car look like a BMW e30 with 60mm drop springs and standard dampers done 200k miles nodding as it goes by..
