Tuning a small turbo cossie
21-02-2007, 06:51 PM
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So basically what your saying is you love me and my car 
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the box and turbo will survive just to upset you mike
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undoubtably tho this is a huge breakthrough and very good for ST owners
:gayflag:the box and turbo will survive just to upset you mike
.....undoubtably tho this is a huge breakthrough and very good for ST owners
21-02-2007, 07:49 PM
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Stu - do you plan on trying any more modern turbos?
I always wonder why it is so rare for people to bolt in some stae-of-art stuff into their cossies. Only BIG bhp boys do that.
Something like this: http://www.4turbo.pl/katalog/index.p...roducts_id=377 or smaller SR30 would be interesting
I always wonder why it is so rare for people to bolt in some stae-of-art stuff into their cossies. Only BIG bhp boys do that.
Something like this: http://www.4turbo.pl/katalog/index.p...roducts_id=377 or smaller SR30 would be interesting
21-02-2007, 09:38 PM
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Anyone who is genuinely interested would be advised to have a look at their ECU and see which revision they have, this would help me decide how soon i have to figure out the software porting.
There are 3, labelled:
CARD
ANTI
COSY.
The work so far has all been done on COSY.
There are 3, labelled:
CARD
ANTI
COSY.
The work so far has all been done on COSY.
21-02-2007, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Anyone who is genuinely interested would be advised to have a look at their ECU and see which revision they have, this would help me decide how soon i have to figure out the software porting.
There are 3, labelled:
CARD
ANTI
COSY.
The work so far has all been done on COSY.
There are 3, labelled:
CARD
ANTI
COSY.
The work so far has all been done on COSY.
21-02-2007, 10:59 PM
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As said Well done Stu and the team inc Will. This is Really Fantastic news for all ST owners stuck at 300ish bhp give or take a few either way. would be well happy with a reliable 350ish. time to look at the ECU for its code i think and start saving hard!
22-02-2007, 04:57 PM
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Hello
This is great news and congratulations on the results.
I will be intrested in buying this, tho just one question.
If i where to buy a gt2871 turbo witch is rated at 400bhp
will i be able to have it running with this conversion?
I would also need a group A headgasket i recon?
This is great news and congratulations on the results.
I will be intrested in buying this, tho just one question.
If i where to buy a gt2871 turbo witch is rated at 400bhp
will i be able to have it running with this conversion?
I would also need a group A headgasket i recon?
22-02-2007, 07:06 PM
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This is good news! Well done Stu, bout time people realised the EECIV is actually pretty good.
One question though, now you can work on the EECIV, does it mean you'll be looking into other cars that use it? ie the RS 2000? There would probably be a lot of interest if you were considering it.
One question though, now you can work on the EECIV, does it mean you'll be looking into other cars that use it? ie the RS 2000? There would probably be a lot of interest if you were considering it.
22-02-2007, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AndyBrew
mine is an ANTI
what is the likely ball park cost of this conversion?
what is the likely ball park cost of this conversion?
Originally Posted by rs nutter
One question though, now you can work on the EECIV, does it mean you'll be looking into other cars that use it? ie the RS 2000? There would probably be a lot of interest if you were considering it.
See our website mate, we have been doing all teh EEC cars for 6 years.
http://www.motorsport-developments.c...data/index.php
Originally Posted by Escort1.8si
If i where to buy a gt2871 turbo witch is rated at 400bhp will i be able to have it running with this conversion?
22-02-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
thanks to Stu for putting all the time and effort in, its been a bit of a nightmare for everyone with the 1st turbo going bang after 200 miles 
, but thankfully the warranty was hounoured and replaced with one that seems to be behaving itself, and It seems Stu has made leaps and bounds in the last few days 
, only thing really holding the car back now is the fuel pump which I am sorting this week, and the MAF issue, which we have agreed to look at at a later date, as the car has done 100K miles, so the poor old girl is starting to feel the 50% power hike a bit .
I am going to drive the car for a few weeks with this conversion on, there are a few bits and bobs I want to get tidied up so it looks factory, then I will stick it on the rollers to see what she does, Stu has estimated 330-340 bhp which I think is about right
I am going to give the engine a freshen up in the next few months or so, and put some brakes on that actually stop the car rarther than just making a funny burning smell then it will be back to MSD for round two, to really see what the car can do on the EEC management 
Anyone who wants to have a look/ come for a blast is most welcome, as The whole point of this experiment was to get a conversion for decent power without having to retro-grade to webber, which as we all know costs a fortune and is loads of hassle......
Thanks again for your hard work Stu, those beers last week were definatly deserved
, but thankfully the warranty was hounoured and replaced with one that seems to be behaving itself, and It seems Stu has made leaps and bounds in the last few days , only thing really holding the car back now is the fuel pump which I am sorting this week, and the MAF issue, which we have agreed to look at at a later date, as the car has done 100K miles, so the poor old girl is starting to feel the 50% power hike a bit . I am going to drive the car for a few weeks with this conversion on, there are a few bits and bobs I want to get tidied up so it looks factory, then I will stick it on the rollers to see what she does, Stu has estimated 330-340 bhp which I think is about right
I am going to give the engine a freshen up in the next few months or so, and put some brakes on that actually stop the car rarther than just making a funny burning smell
then it will be back to MSD for round two, to really see what the car can do on the EEC management Anyone who wants to have a look/ come for a blast is most welcome, as The whole point of this experiment was to get a conversion for decent power without having to retro-grade to webber, which as we all know costs a fortune and is loads of hassle......
Thanks again for your hard work Stu, those beers last week were definatly deserved
Said to Matt Evans from bcrsoc that i'll be popping along to the greyhound once the shat weather gets a bit better
23-02-2007, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sortedcossie.com
I had a t35 hybrid (not sure of exhaust housing size) equipted sapphire 4x4 before the escort and this had nowt below 3500rpm then it was like a rocket. current escort does full boost by well before 2500rpm and is really driveable/flexible and still returns 30mpg on regular use. Will this conversion loose this?
23-02-2007, 01:34 PM
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Questions on fuel pumps and regulators,
Some like me will have already fitted the Bosch uprated fuel pump which I think is rated at 195 ltrs/hr, is this one ok for this conversion?
What about the fuel regulator, will this also need to be uprated?
Questions on fuel pumps and regulators,
Some like me will have already fitted the Bosch uprated fuel pump which I think is rated at 195 ltrs/hr, is this one ok for this conversion?
What about the fuel regulator, will this also need to be uprated?
23-02-2007, 01:45 PM
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Stu
Questions on fuel pumps and regulators,
Some like me will have already fitted the Bosch uprated fuel pump which I think is rated at 195 ltrs/hr, is this one ok for this conversion?
What about the fuel regulator, will this also need to be uprated?
Questions on fuel pumps and regulators,
Some like me will have already fitted the Bosch uprated fuel pump which I think is rated at 195 ltrs/hr, is this one ok for this conversion?
What about the fuel regulator, will this also need to be uprated?
The bosch pump is fine.
Fuel reg will be standard.
23-02-2007, 02:46 PM
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i would be very intersted in this conversion sounds good to me lot less hastle than swapping for older marelli management etc.
what sort of cost would the whole thing work out to be (inc turbo, fuel pump, mapping etc etc.)
Thanks
Phil
what sort of cost would the whole thing work out to be (inc turbo, fuel pump, mapping etc etc.)
Thanks
Phil
23-02-2007, 07:10 PM
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i would be very intersted in this conversion sounds good to me lot less hastle than swapping for older marelli management etc.
what sort of cost would the whole thing work out to be (inc turbo, fuel pump, mapping etc etc.)
Thanks
Phil
what sort of cost would the whole thing work out to be (inc turbo, fuel pump, mapping etc etc.)
Thanks
Phil
To give you an idea though, here is what you will need on your T28 EsCos.
Parts list:
55lb injectors. Ł300
Cooler plugs. Ł50
Uprated pump. Ł150.
Chip will definately unlikely be anymore than Ł500.
Then you need a:
T34.48 with -34 fitted. (We dont sell the turbo )
LT 4x4 manifold (We dont sell)
Shouldnt be too bad compared to fitting a downgrade from a sierra as you dont have to buy the:
Loom
Ecu
Sensors
HT leads
Coil etc
Distributor... (Why fit a distcap back on your great engine?)
Plenum & throttle body Etc
And you are of course gaining closed loop and wasted spark as standard, not to mention adaptive fuelling and spark control.
24-02-2007, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by cos im worth it
Any body know roughly the Price of a T34.48 and -34? best place to get them from too.
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15-03-2007, 04:38 PM
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Another question I've thought of, what have you done about the integral dump valve on the T28?
As you have changed to the T34 turbo have you fitted one, if so what type?
Chris
Another question I've thought of, what have you done about the integral dump valve on the T28?
As you have changed to the T34 turbo have you fitted one, if so what type?
Chris
16-03-2007, 11:36 AM
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Just thought of something else, air filter to turbo hose, and boost hoses have you had to change any?
Also are you upgrading the rad and intercooler? I've been thinging of the RadTec version that allows you to keep the aircon, I'm old and like my comfort!!!
Also are you upgrading the rad and intercooler? I've been thinging of the RadTec version that allows you to keep the aircon, I'm old and like my comfort!!!
16-03-2007, 06:46 PM
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Yes, the air filter to turbo hose will have to be changed, as the turbo is a much larger inlet than the T28,and will require a dump valve recirculation point take off. Due to having to run a recirculating dump valve, I am going to change the throttle body to intercooler boost pipe for one with a take off as well. Rad and cooler are fine as Std, but again, an uprated Item of either never hurts if you have the cash to splash , I also want to keep my aircon, so should I feel the need to put a 500 cooler in there, I will be using one that allows the retainment of the air con rad as well
I am going to speak to Roose motorsport, to see if he is willing to develop a hose kit for this particular application
Anymore questions mate feel free to ask
Rad and cooler are fine as Std, but again, an uprated Item of either never hurts if you have the cash to splash , I also want to keep my aircon, so should I feel the need to put a 500 cooler in there, I will be using one that allows the retainment of the air con rad as well I am going to speak to Roose motorsport, to see if he is willing to develop a hose kit for this particular application
Anymore questions mate feel free to ask
