159mph Pc's acquittal overturned
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Originally Posted by fudgeass
oooh thats good then
all you gotta do is 130 to escape the law
good idea
all you gotta do is 130 to escape the law
good idea
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What a waste of tax payers money this circus is.
He should either have been penalised in the first place or be doing what he's trained (and we all pay him) to do.
159mph down a stretch of road and the country want him hanged. FFS there's enough real crime to go round.
He should either have been penalised in the first place or be doing what he's trained (and we all pay him) to do.
159mph down a stretch of road and the country want him hanged. FFS there's enough real crime to go round.
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It's not so much his speed down the M54 that is unacceptable, it's the fact he was doing 80mph through villages which were 30mph zones.
The M54 isn't like other motorways, it's only 2 lanes and has a shit surface.
So yes, he should be charged, as what he did was totally irresponsible!
The M54 isn't like other motorways, it's only 2 lanes and has a shit surface.
So yes, he should be charged, as what he did was totally irresponsible!
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I'm not privy to all the facts so I aren't going to draw judgement on wether he was in the right or wrong. But it does frustrate me that this has gone to court once already and it should have been sorted then.
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Send his Bitch Ass down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It really pisses me off when the filth get preferential treatment, they should be setting the example, much as I would love to follow his. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get such lenient treatment if I came up with such a pathetic excuse in front of a judge.
Hang Him, hang em all!
It really pisses me off when the filth get preferential treatment, they should be setting the example, much as I would love to follow his. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't get such lenient treatment if I came up with such a pathetic excuse in front of a judge.
Hang Him, hang em all!
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Originally Posted by DUDE_SWEET_FRST
it dont say whats going to happen to him? 12 points and a driving bad 
Knowing what our legal system is like he'll get a Ł60 fine and three points
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Originally Posted by MWF
I'm not privy to all the facts so I aren't going to draw judgement on wether he was in the right or wrong. But it does frustrate me that this has gone to court once already and it should have been sorted then.
guess they have to train high speed driving somewhere. plenty of people on here have driven at that speed on public highways before. (ok they'd get banged up if caught )
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Originally Posted by mcgoo
i wonder how many people would be pissed off if in a chase a copper crashed and killed someones family member because they had no real world training in high speed driving????
The thing I was happy to see is that traffic cops aren't just wankers to the general public but to each other as well!
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Originally Posted by MWF
I'm not privy to all the facts so I aren't going to draw judgement on wether he was in the right or wrong. But it does frustrate me that this has gone to court once already and it should have been sorted then.
What I find interesting is loads of people were commending the Uninsured 21 year old in his Dads Boxster the other day. Yet this guy (whose better qualified than most to do this sort of thing) apparently needs to be hung and imprisoned for Treason.....
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Well, why shouldn't he.
As an upholder of the law, he above all others should abide by it, he should set the example. He was taking the piss and he got caught, therefore he should have been made an example of the first time around. If this guy has, as people seem to assume, been trained to drive at 159mph then he should be more than fully aware of just how dangerous that is on public roads and how disastrous an accident at this speed could be.
By dismissing this guys case it makes a mockery of our legal system and just makes peoples trust in the police and the judiciary lower than it already is.
In short, this person has shown gross disregard for the rules that he himself should be enforcing, he was fully aware of how dangerous his actions were and finally I hate traffic cops, so SEND HIM DOWN!!!!!
As an upholder of the law, he above all others should abide by it, he should set the example. He was taking the piss and he got caught, therefore he should have been made an example of the first time around. If this guy has, as people seem to assume, been trained to drive at 159mph then he should be more than fully aware of just how dangerous that is on public roads and how disastrous an accident at this speed could be.
By dismissing this guys case it makes a mockery of our legal system and just makes peoples trust in the police and the judiciary lower than it already is.
In short, this person has shown gross disregard for the rules that he himself should be enforcing, he was fully aware of how dangerous his actions were and finally I hate traffic cops, so SEND HIM DOWN!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Kiwi_Cossie
Well, why shouldn't he.
As an upholder of the law, he above all others should abide by it, he should set the example. He was taking the piss and he got caught, therefore he should have been made an example of the first time around. If this guy has, as people seem to assume, been trained to drive at 159mph then he should be more than fully aware of just how dangerous that is on public roads and how disastrous an accident at this speed could be.
By dismissing this guys case it makes a mockery of our legal system and just makes peoples trust in the police and the judiciary lower than it already is.
In short, this person has shown gross disregard for the rules that he himself should be enforcing, he was fully aware of how dangerous his actions were and finally I hate traffic cops, so SEND HIM DOWN!!!!!
As an upholder of the law, he above all others should abide by it, he should set the example. He was taking the piss and he got caught, therefore he should have been made an example of the first time around. If this guy has, as people seem to assume, been trained to drive at 159mph then he should be more than fully aware of just how dangerous that is on public roads and how disastrous an accident at this speed could be.
By dismissing this guys case it makes a mockery of our legal system and just makes peoples trust in the police and the judiciary lower than it already is.
In short, this person has shown gross disregard for the rules that he himself should be enforcing, he was fully aware of how dangerous his actions were and finally I hate traffic cops, so SEND HIM DOWN!!!!!
I absolutely agree with that !A while ago,I got done for doing 60,in a 50 restriction,on a deserted motorway,at 6 a.m,in my van!!
Bloody coppers -- think they can do what they like. What do you think they'd do to a member of the general public,if they were caught behaving like that ?? Probably bloody throw him/her in jail !!
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by MWF
I'm not privy to all the facts so I aren't going to draw judgement on wether he was in the right or wrong. But it does frustrate me that this has gone to court once already and it should have been sorted then.
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The facts which have been proved to be true, were that...
He was not officially testing the car under proper training supervision in controlled circumstances with a trainer present
He was doing it without authorisation.
He had told no-one of his intentions.
Also West Mercia Police rules for testing cars in controlled situations, clearly state, that speeds in excess of 120mph are not permitted.
Those are facts - which are not acceptable to break.
He was not officially testing the car under proper training supervision in controlled circumstances with a trainer present
He was doing it without authorisation.
He had told no-one of his intentions.
Also West Mercia Police rules for testing cars in controlled situations, clearly state, that speeds in excess of 120mph are not permitted.
Those are facts - which are not acceptable to break.
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Originally Posted by Redkop
The facts which have been proved to be true, were that...
He was not officially testing the car under proper training supervision in controlled circumstances with a trainer present
He was doing it without authorisation.
He had told no-one of his intentions.
Also West Mercia Police rules for testing cars in controlled situations, clearly state, that speeds in excess of 120mph are not permitted.
Those are facts - which are not acceptable to break.
He was not officially testing the car under proper training supervision in controlled circumstances with a trainer present
He was doing it without authorisation.
He had told no-one of his intentions.
Also West Mercia Police rules for testing cars in controlled situations, clearly state, that speeds in excess of 120mph are not permitted.
Those are facts - which are not acceptable to break.
The whole case can go down one of two routes. We do the typically British thing of going on a witch hunt and publically shaming PC Milton, all get our kick from knocking yet another public figure down and the problems carry one. Or we address a far more serious issue that the West Mercia police force itself may suffer from a lack of control, perhaps even corruption.
One fact that we can be sure of is that Milton was acquitted originally and that's for a reason. I personally suspect it was because West Mercia don't want flaws in their own system getting media attention, but we'll see as the facts develop.
Something interesting is this story posted by a member of MIG.
He works here in Telford Shropshire! He pulled me over for speeding once in a "fast response" vehicle, Its a panda car but instead of being a Diesal Astra its a vectra. Anyways, he said he caught me doing 50mph in a 30 zone. My Dad was in the car,I was doing 30.....I said what proof have you got and his answer was he saw it on the speedo. I said see you in court buddy! It did go to court and I was found "Not Guilty" because he couldnt remember half the stuff that happened. It happened in October and he wrote his court statement in April, my lawyer jumped on that fact alone! His name is Mark Milton if I remember, what a prat. He was laffin when we were waiting in court but I had the last laff.
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Wasn't it West Mercia Force that actually got the case brought to court?
See here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/4466449.stm
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I had already had read that in The Shropshire Star at the time.
This case, when re-heard should now be able to set a precedence for future ones.
I still feel PC Milton thought he'd be above the law though and I think he deserves [maybe too strong a word] to at least get 9 points and a huge fine, but not at the cost of losing his job.
This case, when re-heard should now be able to set a precedence for future ones.
I still feel PC Milton thought he'd be above the law though and I think he deserves [maybe too strong a word] to at least get 9 points and a huge fine, but not at the cost of losing his job.
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Originally Posted by Redkop
I had already had read that in The Shropshire Star at the time.
This case, when re-heard should now be able to set a precedence for future ones.
I still feel PC Milton thought he'd be above the law though and I think he deserves [maybe too strong a word] to at least get 9 points and a huge fine, but not at the cost of losing his job.
This case, when re-heard should now be able to set a precedence for future ones.
I still feel PC Milton thought he'd be above the law though and I think he deserves [maybe too strong a word] to at least get 9 points and a huge fine, but not at the cost of losing his job.
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Personally, I think he deserves to be prosecuted, however, its wrong of West Mercia to hide behind a rule book that they only decided to write because of this publicity.
As far as i can remember there were no rules printed down for us about "testing" vehicles until this particular case came along.
Bloke should not lose his job mind, thats two bites of the same cherry.
As far as i can remember there were no rules printed down for us about "testing" vehicles until this particular case came along.
Bloke should not lose his job mind, thats two bites of the same cherry.