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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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hi i have frst chipped. when i start it on cold it chucks out blue smoke when it warm it not as bad. i am not losing water or oil or power. help plz!!!!!
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Old Jan 1, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Best place to start is with the Valve Stem Oil Seals. Get the one piece top hat type from Fords for about £14. They are easy DIY. You will want the spring compressing tool. Handy tip I was given is to push a rag around the side of the stem seal you are working on as dropping a valve collet into the engine isn't funny. Also remove the spark plus as it makes turning the engine by hand easier (to bring the piston to the top of the stroke so the valve doesn't disappear into the engine once the collets and seal are removed)

After this I would clear all your breather system out.

If this doesn't cure it I would start thinking about having the turbocharger itself looked at as the seal will start to weep after a while. Chipping my FRST saw the turbo throw the towel in within a couple of days
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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Or do what we did..... have the valve stem seals done... and less than 10 miles after having em done, ended up forking out for a new turbo anyways, cos the extra pressure created by the new seals blew the already very weak turbo!

I would honestly have the turbo checked out first.... it will most likely be that.

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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Blue smoke on startup is nearly always stem seals. If changing the seals increased pressure the old ones must have been shot to buggery anyhow and would have needed changing. Sorthing the stem seals is cheap and easy. Even if you have to buy all the bits you can do it yourself in an afternoon for about £25.

If g11no spends out on having his turbo checked out and it turns out to be a set of £15 oil seals he will quite rightly be pretty miffed
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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i am doing the valve stems as of now and the done the first valve already and they look pretty new but will do the rest anyway. checked the intake pipe and they dont look very oily it must surely be the turbo???????
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He probably would be miffed... granted...... we were told that the stem seals had been done on our car before we bought it, I didn't believe it so had them done and they were pretty poor..... however, even after having them done when the garage started the car, it still filled the place with smoke.....

Have a nice recon turbo now sat in mi cellar, an am either gonna sell it on... or keep it to have mi zetec turbo'd!

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where the turbo from and how much would u sell it
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 10:55 AM
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also when u booted did it smoke even more???
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 10:56 AM
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After changing the stem seals it will smoke as oil gets into the chambers. I would have waited a while until the smoke died down before parting with cash for the turbo. If the turbo has gone tits up fit a T3 as it's easy to do and transforms the car and is cheaper than getting a T2 unit

When the seals let go on the standards T2 it would start smoking after about 2-3 mins of starting and would then smoke like mad until it was properly warmed up and would then stop
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I got the turbo refurbed at ITS Turbo Systems in Drighlington, West Yorkshire..... good people there, ( you can watch em strip your turbo down and they show you the wear/damage, etc). Don't think I wanna sell it to be honest.... cost £450 as its a T2 hybrid with 360 degree bearing.... its been on ebay twice before Xmas for £250 (loads of watchers) but no bids.....

Am having my 2i sorted this year and a turbo would just put the icing on the cake I thinks.

Dunno how much a standard turbo would be to refurb.....
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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A stage 1 hybrid FRST turbo is about the £900 mark on an exchange basis a standard one is about £550. Hence why the T3 is so popular as you can get a nice Stage 2 hybrid for standard T2 money
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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A stage 1 hybrid FRST turbo is about the £900 mark on an exchange basis a standard one is about £550. Hence why the T3 is so popular as you can get a nice Stage 2 hybrid for standard T2 money
Think he'd best go to ITS cos it wouldn't cost him that much there... as long as the turbo housing isn't cracked he might as well just get it refurbed!
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ITS Turbos.... 0113 285 4922
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:06 AM
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After changing the stem seals it will smoke as oil gets into the chambers. I would have waited a while until the smoke died down before parting with cash for the turbo. If the turbo has gone tits up fit a T3 as it's easy to do and transforms the car and is cheaper than getting a T2 unit

When the seals let go on the standards T2 it would start smoking after about 2-3 mins of starting and would then smoke like mad until it was properly warmed up and would then stop
We did drive it away from the garage, and the turbo blew on the M1 doin 50 mph!
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:08 AM
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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They are pretty much standard prices across the tuning world for these turbo's. Pick up any Ford mag and get a price for them and you'll see what I mean
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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done the valve stem it not them
it must be the turbo is there any easy way of finding out.
also does anyone know either north london or herts where u can go for oil seals on turbo
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Old Jan 2, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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I paid £850 for my stage 2 t2 which was from TD and that was with the modify sump kit there stage t2 is ment to have as much as you can get with out making the turbo weaker @ 23psi Don't get one out of ford mag as they more expensive. I met some one who got a new standard turbo for just over £300
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done the valve stem it not them
it must be the turbo is there any easy way of finding out.
also does anyone know either north london or herts where u can go for oil seals on turbo
Best thing to do is, ring a few turbo places....... you will probably have to take your turbo off and take it to em.... we did with ITS and he actually stripped it down infront of mi other half and showed him why it was smoking..... basically it was fooked! They had the turbo 2 days and when re-fitted there was no smoke whatsoever..... I would recommend ITS as they did a cracking job with ours!
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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sarah u know u want to sell it me
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Old Jan 3, 2006 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by pollocks
sarah u know u want to sell it me
Well.... i dunno.... could make for interesting track action in the 2i......
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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am skint now anyway some one took all my money lmao
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my seals in my t2 are knackered im gettin g it sorted but its only gona be temperary as im getting a t3 as oranoco said there so much better
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