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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Default -31 Actuator - what happends what they are nackered?

Bit of a random question but what are the symptoms of an actuator thats on it way out?

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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Boost gets peaky or low overall.
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Out of interest, what exactly happens to the actuator? Is it metal fatigue or something? Can someone fix my ignorance by explaining how one works in very simple terms?
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Ok...
An actuator is very simply, a shaft, with a cap at one end, rivetted to rubber type diaphragm. Underneath the diaghragm is a spring.

The boost acts on teh rubber diaghragm and compresses the spring, thus sending the shaft outwards, which then operates the wastegate it is attached too as required.

When the spring softens due to simple metal fatigue, it takes less boost to move it and thus the wastegate is operated too soon, thus the loss of boost pressure.

And it really is as simple as that.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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A picture to illustrate the text.

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Cool thanks for the explanation
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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Yup problem i got with mine, thats it not holding enough boost! will get a -31 though before she comes back out in April!
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You should take advantage of my incredible sale price before it ends tomorrow
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Stu how much do you normally sell the -34 for? cause my -31 is foooked but i dont think ill have the money b4 xmas to get one
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
You should take advantage of my incredible sale price before it ends tomorrow
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You should take advantage of my incredible sale price before it ends tomorrow
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And cheap too.....


Mine turned up this morning.... and I only ordered it yesterday

Excellent service.... Dawn cant wait to feel 10psi again.... Oooooh er

Cheers Stu !!
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Stu how much do you normally sell the -34 for? cause my -31 is foooked but i dont think ill have the money b4 xmas to get one
Ł70 + delivery so Ł78 to have it before 1pm next day and insured.

Your welcome Neil, only delivering the service you paid for pal.
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Reason i ask is because karl had to add more preload than expected to get the car to hold the boost we wanted. And whilst mapping we noticed the boost level it was holding was getting progressivly worse and worse (going from 20-21 to 17-18. Karl pointed out this can be caused by a crappy material used on the wastegate arm but before i go changing anything just wanted to know if this can be caused by the actuator at all? (and i cant get hold of the o'mighty short one )

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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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Stu how much do you normally sell the -34 for? cause my -31 is foooked but i dont think ill have the money b4 xmas to get one
Ł70 + delivery so Ł78 to have it before 1pm next day and insured.

Your welcome Neil, only delivering the service you paid for pal.

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I Would love to Stu! But gotta be careful on the Ł this side of xmas
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ive got a nice new Forge actuator for sale, Size of a feckin bin lid! Ł50 with 2 different springs, spare diaphram and spare shaft as they are fully servicable
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Originally Posted by DanS
Reason i ask is because karl had to add more preload than expected to get the car to hold the boost we wanted. And whilst mapping we noticed the boost level it was holding was getting progressivly worse and worse (going from 20-21 to 17-18. Karl pointed out this can be caused by a crappy material used on the wastegate arm but before i go changing anything just wanted to know if this can be caused by the actuator at all? (and i cant get hold of the o'mighty short one )

Cheers for the replys!
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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i'm afraid Karl wil know best about the ins and outs of your problem. But yes poor holding of boost can be caused by a weak spring.

at the end of the day it can do no harm to have a new actuator on there, so get yourself a genuine garrett on there and get Karl to set the boost for you.
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