What rods and pistons do you run and what do you think of them.

 

standard rods. dished standard pistons.
god enough for a low end engine build!

 

Anybody

 

Pauter Forged Chrome-Moly Steel Rods & Custom Spec JE Pistons.

Power wise they will cope with a lot more that I plan chucking at them

A couple of pics...well it would be rude not too

 

They look mighty impressive Andy


Mike

 

Arrow H Section Steel Rods And JE Forged Pistons.

For Forged Pistons, Next To No Rattle. Brilliant Combination

 

Andy, they Look AWESOME!

 

WRC piston and rods made to spec.

 

Dare I ask how much???

or is a "water cooled" credit card machine needed to pay for them!!

 

je pistons and eagle rods

 

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Looked at going this route myself for a VW engine I'm building.

Certainly the best combination IMO, especially with the Pauter titanium rods but at $995 each there a bit pricey

The design of the Pauter rods is supposed to create less drag in the crankcase.

 

Can a rod and piston kit for a black top zetec (post 97) be used in and early zetec (93 - 97)?

I thought they could. You just can't mix and match rods and pistons as they have different rod lengths / comp heights.

Have i got this right?

 

thats what i have done but could not get the compression ratio any lower then 8:4:1 so ended up having to use a de-comp plate

 

yeah thats true doug, if you use eagle rods and pistons for the blacktop in a silver top, lowest CR is around 8.4/8.5:1

these wiseco ones im having made will be 7.8:1 to my spec, but could go lower if required.

not seen the rods yet but they are done now, and aint cheap lookin at about Ł900 a set

pistons are gonna be about Ł600 too, but will take around 700bhp

 

What pistons and rods did you use? Eagle and JE?

I'm going for Eagle rods, but I've found some pistons that are lower CR than the JEs so might be ok. Mind you I reckon with carefull mapping i could get 300 bhp on 8.5:1 which is enough for me!

 

Dan,
All you need then is a spunky billet flywheel!!!! They'll be ready to send out early Jan. Is that ok?

 

yeah mate no probs

just i kinda ran out of cash now so cant afford to get the fookin engine built

jan is good tho, should get a few quid for xmas

 

Is it just the building that you canne afford?

I would offer to put it together for you but I'm a bit on the busy side at the mo.

I have a mate who works at Randall Race Engines who will always up for a cash job? He is very reasonable.

 

well the block need machining, and i need to buy bearings/gaskets etc

philm is gonna do it/the guy he uses, and areo quip it all too

hopefully wont bankrupt me lol

i could easily nail it all together as ive built a few zetec beofre, but none have been 400bhp turbo ones lol... so best get it done right lol

 

My Old Fiesta 2.1 16v turbo used Arias pistons

 

Eagle rods and Probe Pistons in Josh's engine (shown next to Std Focus items)


Mondeo Rods and XE pistons in mine

 

Sunny, mate I just came.

 

STD RODS
STD PISTONS
STD BLOCK
STD HEAD
DECON PLATE
286 BHP @ 16 psi

Done 6000 miles in it as well.

have a look at my build history

www.westfield-turbo.co.uk

 

LOL @ some of the replies. Tissue's anyone?

Rudey - I would say that anything over 440bhp on a standard zetec crack is pushing it and it would be on a wing and a prayer.

 

Seen it before. Quality work. Have used your engine as an example before for people who don't believe what you can do on stock engine components.

 

jesus i bet that westy is a handful nice car mate

cheers jay

 

Well cool Sunny

 

fookin ell

std 2.0ls with decomp plates it is then!!

very i mpressive mate

 

mine will be fardon or arrow rods and arias pistons...early next year once the head is built up

bassboy

 

LOL you know it make sense. Cant wait until i fully steel up the engine next year. Will be getting some serious figures then

 

no mate, its good to see that someone is actually pushing the boundaries of the std engine, and getting proven results!

i reckon you should up the power until it all lets go lol, thats research hahaha

 

Anyone know the make of the forged pistons focus-central are selling? Any testimonials? At 259$/set the price seems almost ridiculous. Eagle rods are 311$ at most places so this would make a cheap combination.

 

as stated tho you can only get a CR of 8.5: ish...

so not good if you want BIIIIG power

 

8.5:1 sounds perfect to me for big power. Anyhow, if one uses the pistons sold as 8.2:1 CR pistons together with the Eagles, what is it that modifies the CR? Is the squish band screwed too then?

 

the eagle stuff is for the black top zetec, the rods are slightly longer, hence less cc's in the cylinder = higher CR

still, with 8.5:1 you should still see a safe 230/250 bhp i guess before you get det issues

 

I know the rods are a bit longer, but shouldn't the pin on the pistons be equally much higher to counter that? If not, what doesn't match?

I'd say 250hp is doable even from a 1.6 CVH with 8.5:1 C/R.