Not only the fact that he rants and raves about how good the car is but also tells you something about its development.

Like how the original body shape wasn't areodynamic enough for 250mph and would only get it to 235mph. So first thing they did was make the wing mirrors smaller.

This only meant that the cars nose wanted to lift up at 200mph, so they had to put them back on. The wing mirrors were generating so much downforce they kept the damn thing on the road!!!!!

Things like that make you realise how much of a engineering accomplishment that car is!

 

250-0mph in 9sec/450 meters too.

 

They had problems with the wheels turning seperate to the tyres too.

 

Read the review in EVO magazine!

 

Top it all off its got TEN radiators

 

WTF @ All of the above!?!? Thats immense!! Thought the 6 litres of water/coolant my escort holds was quite alot!! LOL!!!!

 

Their biggest problem was keeping the fooker cool, so much so it don't have any engine covers!

 

The main problem of this car is that. Bugatti built the original concept, then trotted out all the figures about 250mph etc etc.

So when the engineers got round to actually making it all work it was much harder than Bugatti's top chiefs gave them credit for!


Its good that they managed to make it look so much like the original concept/


Concept


Production.

Compare that to the McLaren SLR concept


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Despite all that engineering, its still not the best Supercar ever. That's still the McLaren F1. Of every Supercar of the last 10 years the Veyron still falls way behind the Carrera GT and Enzo in terms of being a decent proposition.

 

im sure it says in the evo review that if a mclaren f1 went past a stationery veyron doing 100mph from standing the bugatti would hit 200mph first

 

JC also said that while the Macca can do 240mph it was almost totally uncontrolable at them speeds, where the bugatti is actually very civilised.

 

Thats a misleading statistic though. Yes, it hits 200 mph faster than the F1 goes from 100-200. But it wouldnt catch the F1 for several miles.

Regarding stability. Ive seen the 240mph run video and Andy (Wallace) doesnt even break a sweat! He actually gives a running commentary!

 

Yes it would! Unless I'm mistaken you are talking shite.

The way I see it is if the Bugatti was roughly 300metres of the way down the straight at Brunters and the Macca at the start. The Macca nails it and passes the Bugatti at 100mph, then the Bugatti goes. They can both hit 200mph before the end of Brunters. So where does the several miles stuff come from???


Rich???

 

....Mark Shead didnt look to sweaty at 206mph in the wet in a shonky old Ford Sapphire!!!!!

 

he did have his cardy on though

 

yeah probably absorbed the sweat...apparently his missus had to kill 3 sheep to make that for his television appearence

 

 

Well Rich???

 

Lee - Double Posting when Im not on the site doesnt make you look clever!


Anyway.

Veyron on the Hard Shoulder
F1 doing 100 mph in the outside lane - Rolling Start

As they draw level they both go for it. The F1 is accelerating from 100-200. Yes they will hit 200 at (more or less) the same time, (BV first) but the F1 has a head start in actual positioning on the road.

Its difficult for me to explain, but the F1 is further down the road when they both hit 200. So although they are doing the same speed, the F1 is in the distance.

My belief is that you cant catch the F1 if they are both running at the same speed. (obviously) So although the BV will close the gap to the F1 I dont think it will catch it. Not inside a few minutes anyway.

I'll try and find the figures to back that up. (not made easy as Bugatti dont publish MPH speed only KMH) Its about distance travelled in the time it takes the cars to get to 200. So I need a acceleration over distance travelled graph for both cars. And Im sorry to say this isnt really my strongest area.

So bear with me on that. Or are you going to start posting "well?" when I'm asleep

If Im wrong, Im wrong, but I read something similar on another site, and it kind of makes sense.

 

Sorry Rich, I just don't see it like that.

I think we need an adjudicator mate.

 

Lee

I was wrong

I sat and worked it out last night. (You see what you made me do )I had to estimate figures so the cars have linear acceleration (which I'm sure they dont)

The Veyron will do 0-200 in 1.6 KM
The F1 will do 100-200 in 1.9KM



The Veyron will catch and pass the F1 around the 1.4KM mark. I hope you're satisfied! I couldnt get to sleep I was thinking about it

 

No worries mate.

 

Have a read of Gordon Murray's write up in Top Gear magazine about the Veyron. Obviously, hes biased as he was the creator and guide of the F1. But what he says makes a whole lot of sense, and unlike lots of other reviews of the Veyron. He's not just focussing on the numbers. But the actual car's design.

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If Gordon designed a pencil sharpener I'd buy it! The man is a design genius, very much in the same vein as Colin Chapman and John Barnard.

 

What a load of bollocks, hes banging on about turbo lag at 3000rpm again like Clarkson in the FQ400.

CHANGE DOWN A GEAR YOU SAD OLD TWATS

 

But you dont have to in a Zonda or an F1. Thats his point. I can understand the problem of lag on a small engine/big turbo system. Thats just inevitable as not enough airs being flowed.

But on an 8litre 4 Turbo engine, Lag should be much less. You certainly shouldnt have to change into 2nd if you're doing 3K in 3rd. And want to give it some.