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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Default Urgent suspension problem advice! (pic added)

As per title.

Light clunk from front left suspension when driving, though it drives straight and normal, seems to steer fine too.

Drove it home and got the car up in the air....

If i grap the wheel on that side i can move the wheel up and down a few mm (deffo less than 5mm), and can see the nut on top of the suspension in the enginebay moving up and down with it.

Its not the top mount as such that is loose, its the bit in the middle that I presume holds the top mount to the shock itself.

See this pic...

Its that big nut in the middle of the strut that moves up and down a lil bit, but whe i turn it it dont seem to get any tighter.

Turn the big nut (i presume its job is to hold the shock to the top mount) and it turns but dont get any tighter, i presume the the thread the nut sits on is turning too.

So what do i do? Looked underneath and dont seem to be any nuts under there to hold the thread in place while i do it tighter.

Or is something worn/fuckeded?

And is it safe to use like this?

Help
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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either a snapped spring or a fooked set of bushes

or dampers are fooked and so the spring is chattering rather than being balanced

as for save driving like it, depends what you class as safe
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Cant you not read ginge? How can it be what you say?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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to tighten, either use a gun (the one with ta compressor attached to the other end) and see if it will tighten that way, or allen key in the middle of the shock at top mount with a spanner on the nut.


or not?
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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PMSL @ Ginge!

Had the same prob on the saff! Is the top of the strut able to be clamped? As on my shocks it was shaped for a 8m Spaner to go over and hold it in place. Then i could tighten the but up fine.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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Am i writing in french or something

There is no allen key head on that top bit, and it turns just fine, just dont get any tighter, so i guess the thread is turning with it.

Rhys- no mate, seemingly no way to hold that thread tight while you turn the nut,
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:51 PM
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shut up i wasnt thinking, was on the phone whilst spouting that shite
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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steve thought you was taking about the shock going up and down, not jsut the top mount

the only way to diagnose it proper is to take it out and have a look

theres also a bearing in the suspention that allows the wheels to turn but that would most prob affect the steering


without hearing the noise or seeing the car its hard problem to find with the word "clunk" typed in on a computer


hell even dealing with people face to face its hard work, ive had a women ask for the silver rim on here wheel as she bend it hitting a curb, i spent 20 mins with her before she said she will bring the car it


the silver rim was where the black steel wheel had hit the curb and got scratched and dented

so the word "clunk" aint that easy to sort
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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instead of an allen key cut a groove into it then use a spanner and a flat blade equipped ratchet!
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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greg surly thats just ignoring the possable problem there is though

bit like just welding the strut to hold it in place,the question is whats the reason for the clunk as its not the design
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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That thread will be on the top of the chrome shaft in the middle of the shocker
Make sure you try and tighten it with the car on its wheels and if need be stick some grips on it between the coils of the springs as high up as possible. You do risk ruining the shaft a bit but if done high enough it won't cause any leaks from the shocker!
There is a bearing in the top mount and a bush both of which could be worn so tightening that to FT might make bugger all difference anyway.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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NO ginge. As ive already said, the suspension top mount is TIGHT, thats held to the car via the 4 bolts you can see in the pic.

Its the suspension strut/wheel that moves a bit, up n down
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:04 PM
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spadge- good reply, il try that in a min
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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is the cars ride height the same then

if the bearing was fooked then surely the actual steering would be affected
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Sounds to me like the whole top mount and or bearing is goosed mate.

Stick the car on the deck & remove that nut using the method Spadge described (strange theres no way of holding the shaft tho). I'll bet when that nut is out of the way you'll see its worn inside...hence why the nut is moving up & down...i.e the shaft is moving through the hole. You might be able to bodge it with a decent washer but that would mean stripping it all down so you're best off waiting until you've got the new bits.


I'd watch it driving it because if you hit a large pothole and the suspension bottoms out you may end up with a nut sized lump in your bonnet!! :S :S :S
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 06:17 PM
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Tightened up, fixed, job done.

As per Spadges reply.

Ginge- Once again, read my post and youd see what was affected and whats not, jeez

This car is a fucking deathtrap, i will end up writing this thing off thru oversteer in no time
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:34 PM
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pop in a garage and get an air impact gun on it to make sure it stays tight.
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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so steve you needed to post about doing up a nut only, not wanting to know why its happened then

you can spec a engine yet doing up a nut is "urgent suspention advice"


dont think im the one to worry about tbh , i was just assuming you had a real problem,

why did it come loose btw and is it a common thing for em to do

if the bearing was a issue that could cause it to work loose i supose

congrats on solving it though , sorry i couldnt help, ill be assured the next techy post from you about tyres ill advice to " flip the lever so the air dont escape"
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Old Nov 26, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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get a nyloc on there you cooooont

saying that, steve will no doubt be in birminghan caining th bollox off the sx for the drift night
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
pop in a garage and get an air impact gun on it to make sure it stays tight.
Yup, basicly theres is NO way to hold the thread, you literally have to use an impact gun to get it done tight.

But its sorted now. Even with bellend Ginge not being able to read and posting bollocks, then trying to take the piss as it was a lose bolt. What you EXPECT it to fuckin be? Goon

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saying that, Steve will no doubt be in birminghan caining th bollox off the sx for the drift night
Maaaaaaaate, JUST got back, was fucking AWESOME

Still buzzin now TBH, proper on the rack stops drifting, had no more lock was givin it so much angle.
Span about 50 times but in such a good place youd have to have a major off to do any damage.

Car was faultless, cant believe the fuckin abuse it took, abuse like youd not believe, and its still fine

Shocked about how good it is too, let a few of the other drifters use it tonight too and they all got out saying how shithot it was, better than theirs for drifting, so guess my mods have done well

Such a fuckin laff, proper love it. Cant wait to get out there again.

Should be some shithot pics as Stone was there snapping away
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 12:46 AM
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buy a ford haha only jokin
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:17 AM
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steve you are still missing the point, call me a goon if you like but the fact is the bolt DID do up before with no mole grips on the strut

just cause you aint the shit hot mechanic you claim and are just a person who can quote a haynes manual dont mean your a bad person

fact of the mater is the bolt was lose and was unable to tighten up without using bogit and legget tool

whos the goon now

if a bolt dont do up theres a reason for it could be your tool kit is smaller than jims or you really are that thick


you say its a loose bolt, what else would it be

YOU FUCKING POSTED ON THE NET " HOW CAN I DO UP A BOLT ON MY SUSPENTION "

or did you mention knocking noises and wondering what it COULD be

seriously how much of a cunt must you be that you cant do up a bolt

maybe theres another issue was my point, i was actually giving you credit

cause AGAIN how can you spec a skyline engine YET not due up a bolt
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Your a fucking prick, fair play

Do i ever claim im a shithot mechanic? No Wow, i can remove and refit turbos, manifolds, etc etc, whoop de doo

Whats being a mechanic got to do with speccing an engine AT ALL anyhow?

You posted over and over about shite that id already said wasnt the problem, either you cant read or your stupid or both.
Then you decide to turn the attention away from your bollocks by trying to attack me...

If you turned the nut the thread turns with it. You could NOT get mole grips over the top of it, there isnt enough thread to put them on.

The obvious way to ME too was to drop it to the ground and tighten it, but that STILL wouldnt hold the thread in place, its STILL a stupid way for something to be fitted IMO.

So as any sane person would think, that cant be the right way and there must be a proper way to do it. SO I ASKED.

And it turns out that shit way is the way you meant to do it, shocking to me, but true.

Not like you helped in any way tho

Face it, your just some knowitall knobber with fuck all going on, who works in a parts depertment so thinks he knows the lot. You dont.

So fuck off away from all of my threads, ever, please

Feel free to keep whining via PM or summat, but not by more posts FFS...
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:49 AM
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steve i agree with not going on your posts ASLONG as you stay the fuck off mine

im not the only one who thinks your a nob and by posting up that STUPID "urgent" post it just shows that you are actually human

what you do is attempt to belittle, you claim i know fuck all but even a moron know that IS NOT THE CORRECT WAY TO TIGHTEN UP SUSPENTION


its not the way its done, just like hitting hub cariers with a hammer ios not the correct way to remove them

that was my fucking point but fuck you very much anyway

PS: pay 20 quid and pop in the dummy room and understand who else thinks your a nob
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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It WAS urgent as i had to use the fucking car to go to Brum immediatley you cripple, didnt post urgent for fun.

What is or isnt the correct way to tighten it up?
What ive done IS the correct way, but IMO its a bloody stupid way. Do you even know what your talking about?

Of course im human Im no mechanic and never claimed to be one. I know a lot about engines and tuning, but not loads about fitting shit like brakes, susp, etc etc etc

PS- Probably not even 1/8th the amount who I think are, so frankly, bothered
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Old Nov 27, 2005 | 11:36 AM
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PMSL!!

Ginge, there are so many ways and techniques on how to do simple jobs on one model of vehicle, never mind all the 1000's of different models of vehicle out there. How can any one person know all the techniques for every model out there?

Just because a bolt is loose doesn't mean it's quite as simple as tightening it up. Especially if you don't have the right tools or sufficient space round the bolt for example.
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