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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:43 PM
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Default s2 4x4 fords secret escort, remember this post

does anyone know if ford made any s2 4x4

i want to see your veiws on this before i say anything
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Am i talking crap but im sure they had some prototypes for the rs2000 development. But probably very very wrong
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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no mate your not talking crap i just need to see what peaple say before i say anymore
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:46 PM
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deffo not but it can be done

i looked into it on me old cabrio and you need to used a rs2000/4x4 mondeo mtx75 with tranfer box

then look at the rear hubs and shafts


but i can be done



just no fooker can be botherd tbh
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they made a escos mk4 prototype

but that wasnt sold
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:50 PM
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hey b19bal how's it going mate.

prototype was in germany wasnt it
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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no never made any mk4 escort 4x4s well not for the uk market anyway
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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they never made any to sell, but they did make prototypes

not the same thing anyway

baz im cool, hows the business ect going
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by b19bal
deffo not but it can be done

i looked into it on me old cabrio and you need to used a rs2000/4x4 mondeo mtx75 with tranfer box

then look at the rear hubs and shafts


but i can be done



just no fooker can be botherd tbh
do you know how shit rs2000 4x4 running gear is!
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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B19 bal is right

Ford built a mk4 escort 4x4 mule car as a very early prototype for the esc cos

Got scrapped when they were done with it though
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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essex, think about it though !!!!

4x4 in a 2.0 zetec

may need to mod a few parts though but the IB5 boxes aint much better
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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A chap done a 4x4 conversion on a FRST running Mondeo gear and a 2.1ZVH. Got a vid of it somewhere on here.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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if ford didnt im pretty sure gartrac made a couple!

i know they did mk3 scrotes, id imagien they did a couple of mk4s too!
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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a company i used to work for bought a new building but couldnt move in to it until the guy had cleared all his stuff out.anyway the company i worked for came to an agrement to work around him why he finnished his final project.he was rebuilding a nsx for honda uk that the insurance company wrote off.it was the press car as seen on top gear..i got talking to him over a few weeks and it turns out he built/help built a lot of ford prototypes including the 200 and he showed me pics of the first super transit wich i think he built(is this still about)he was going on about loads of other prototypes including 4wd ecorts on sierra chassis or summat wich he helped design he also builds lemans cars.he was a very interesting and clever man to talk too especially if you are in to fords
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:42 PM
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At least 1 4x4 RST was built by either the factory or for the factory, it was white and registered on a G reg, I think collins might have had some input maybe later tho, I do have some pics that of it when the car was in performance ford in around 1990,
It had a very rare transfer box that was made for the car, from what I can remember without going in the loft for the mag anyway!

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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:44 PM
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Defo not standard production models mate, anything can be acheived with abit of time, effort and alot of money!
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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I think i remember reaiding that they made around 5 4x4 series 2's. The running gear is basically what is in the RS 2000 4x4.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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I know they made as above a S2 with cossie 4x4 runing gear used for escort cossie devopment.
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 07:37 PM
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keep your eyes on mine fellas, could be goin 4x4 next year
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Old Nov 6, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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Umm come on someone put up a pic of one of them
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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here is the info i have

the youth your right about the g reg one dude

ever wanted to know what fords secret development escort was?????

well after a massive amount of research ive come up with this info

a s2 was one of the first 4x4 vehicle using a transverse engine system
rather than the ferguson hardware enigne itstallation, although the 4x4
system was subseguently put on hold.

this design was latter passed on to the mainstream ford enginering
departments it was latter used in the transverse-enigne escort rs 2000
that was revealed in september 1993.

right there was one that was built by some guy that was working for ford
some time ago this was a 4x4 and the reg number is E388 YVX i beleave
this is the first one that was done,

a second 4x4 s2 was G343 FRE
back in 1989 a guy called john found a number of cut-up ex-ford
development cars in a breaker's yard all of which had rather trick 4x4
drive line's, the cars were from a batch of 40 s2 shells that were made to
run the 4x4 running gear at the time these were put together for the use
of the ford research development at dunton,

what i would like to know is what did happen to the rest of the shells after
all there was 40 made did thay cut them all up after

more info comming latter about a secret rs 2000 mark 2 and a mexico
plus a g reg escort cossie prototype
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Very interesting stuff mate
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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All we need now is some pics
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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alan mate im doing some more search on it and im trying to get
some pics but this could take for ever dude i will see what come's
up
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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rudey thanks for that info mate i will try and look it to that aswell as finding some pics for alan
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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May be of some interest





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EDIT
Ask Bernie about transfer box upgrade turns out Ford made a few mistakes regarding lubrication.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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mark thats very good info you have there mate
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by sedan man
a company i used to work for bought a new building but couldnt move in to it until the guy had cleared all his stuff out.anyway the company i worked for came to an agrement to work around him why he finnished his final project.he was rebuilding a nsx for honda uk that the insurance company wrote off.it was the press car as seen on top gear..i got talking to him over a few weeks and it turns out he built/help built a lot of ford prototypes including the 200 and he showed me pics of the first super transit wich i think he built(is this still about)he was going on about loads of other prototypes including 4wd ecorts on sierra chassis or summat wich he helped design he also builds lemans cars.he was a very interesting and clever man to talk too especially if you are in to fords
Sounds like Terry Drury or an employee of TDR.
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:16 PM
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Rs Baz CheeRS m8 a m8 of mine was talking about trying to covert a rst engine to take the 4x4 to put in a metro But have it in the bac ect

Will have to see if any thing cames about of it
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:18 PM
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well alan to tel you the truth mate i do have a book on the g reg
s2 4x4 and there is pics there mate but not very clear

i will see what i can come up with
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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Fookin good post this is!!!!

Going to keep my eye on this 1!!!

Would like ot see some pics of it tbh..

Pete..
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good post. Very interesting to read about that.
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Originally Posted by Rs Baz
here is the info i have

the youth your right about the g reg one dude

a second 4x4 s2 was G343 FRE
back in 1989 a guy called john found a number of cut-up ex-ford
development cars in a breaker's yard all of which had rather trick 4x4
drive line's, the cars were from a batch of 40 s2 shells that were made to
run the 4x4 running gear at the time these were put together for the use
of the ford research development at dunton,
yes thats the story as I remember it, I do have some pics of the car and underneath will go in the loft this weekend find them and scan em in

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Old Nov 9, 2005 | 11:48 PM
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I remember seeing an article in a mag a good few years ago when the mk5 rs2 and the escort cossy were being developed and there was a pic of of what looked like an escort cos minus the whaletail and it had a slightly different front bumper with an rs2000 engine mounted the same way as it is in the escort cosworth but it was rear wheel drive, reading this topic has just jogged my memory about it!
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 12:03 AM
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Interesting post
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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Very intresting mate

Where did you find that from ?? I only thought there was ever the one mk4 shell done
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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i know that gartrac or wotever their called used to supply the panels required i.e transmission tunnel etc for a rally team that used the mk3 escot shell... surely you could get in touch with them and see if they still make or have any of the tunnels as they would fit an S2 the same as it would the mk3 escort ! happy hunting anyway folks, i'd love to see a 4x4 s2 !! by the way, is the mtx75 the same gearbox they used in the 2.0ltr 4x4 mondeo..?

**edit** here's their website.. http://www.gartrac.com
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Old Nov 10, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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Just to wet your appetite!

The mondeo gearbox and transfer box are identical, as is the rear diff.

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