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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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Was just wondering if there would be a problem using say greys if you had only 300bhp ?? or blues if you only had 250 odd etc.. Surely as injectors are not just on/off, if you can map them ok you could do it??.

especially as injectors become unefficient if you push them past a certain percentage of their duty cycle?? .....sure somone will tell me thats bollocks

what about 1000 cc injectors running 400bhp? pmsl
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Not if its mapped right, itd be fine.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:25 PM
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the problem with large injectors in controlling them for short duty cycles
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:28 PM
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the problem with large injectors in controlling them for short duty cycles
We shall see......

The 750cc lambda controlled Marelli level 8 project starts tomorrow at 10am sharp... watch this forum for breaking (Heart probably ) news.
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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the problem with large injectors in controlling them for short duty cycles
We shall see......

The 750cc lambda controlled Marelli level 8 project starts tomorrow at 10am sharp... watch this forum for breaking (Heart probably ) news.
im sure you'll master it mate

and i cant keep my eye on the forum for the next couple of days as im off to goodwood for the weekend
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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Excellent mate, hope you enjoy it...
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thanks mate, ive loved it the last two years
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DazC,
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that l8 or p8 stu?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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l8 m8 its a certain persons car on this post 2 hey daz
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another question... I take it P8 couldnt run 1000cc injectors?? you would need something like Secs S8

or is that what stu is about to prove wrong???

DazC, incase your wondering "what would be the point" The only reason would be to run that power till the gearbox etc are uprated then up the power...
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l8 m8 its a certain persons car on this post 2 hey daz
I wouldn't like to hazard a guess as to who's it might be though!!!

Jap Crap, Stu has already mapped a car running 750cc injectors on a Level 6 so a Level 8 should be able to handle them and a P8 should deffo handle them. And no. I wasn't wondering what the point was!
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Sorry, I meant KENNY has mapped a Level 6 car on 750's.
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Sorry, I meant KENNY has mapped a Level 6 car on 750's.
650's actually i believe....

750's are a new challenge. just need to equip your S1 with 1000cc ones to complete the puzzle

What was the for earlier?
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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Karl has 1000cc injectors on his so it's dooable i guess...
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Not under completely closed loop lambda control with no more than 0.3% fuelling he doesnt
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
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Sorry, I meant KENNY has mapped a Level 6 car on 750's.
650's actually i believe....

750's are a new challenge. just need to equip your S1 with 1000cc ones to complete the puzzle

What was the for earlier?
I am absofruitly sure you said Kenny mapped 750 cc's!!! My S1 will eventually be able to run any injectors it likes....hopefully.....but then you would expect the management I want, to handle almost anything anyway with out it being a complete challenge!!!

And the , well nothing is ever straight forwards is it, unless you're fitting a fuse or a bulb.
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What make of injectors are You going to use?
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Ahh.. todays antics you mean?

Maybe i did say that, but that was incorrect so i appologise if so. I have made it clear to your dad that this is new ground were walking on and not to place to much hope in its sucess.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Ahh.. todays antics you mean?

Maybe i did say that, but that was incorrect so i appologise if so. I have made it clear to your dad that this is new ground were walking on and not to place to much hope in its sucess.
Well to be honest, problems started right at the very beginning when he started buying parts. He started stripping it on Monday night and just hit problem after problem after problem. Even tonight he has had more problems..... I personnaly wouldn't have done it like he has. I would have looked into it and done more research and decided what I wanted from the word go and tackled bits as I go along up to the point where I have all the bits required.
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Originally Posted by DazC
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Ahh.. todays antics you mean?

Maybe i did say that, but that was incorrect so i appologise if so. I have made it clear to your dad that this is new ground were walking on and not to place to much hope in its sucess.
Well to be honest, problems started right at the very beginning when he started buying parts. He started stripping it on Monday night and just hit problem after problem after problem. Even tonight he has had more problems..... I personnaly wouldn't have done it like he has. I would have looked into it and done more research and decided what I wanted from the word go and tackled bits as I go along up to the point where I have all the bits required.
nothings ever straight forward is it ey lads u now what i mean
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It will be alright on the night mate, once its dropped off here and your dad has made his way home you can relax and look forward to that telephone call from me saying:











































"Mission Aborted.. we have another problem."
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
It will be alright on the night mate, once its dropped off here and your dad has made his way home you can relax and look forward to that telephone call from me saying:











































"Mission Aborted.. unless u have 10 grand cry:
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Wouldn't suprise me!!! He will be there most of the day anyway cos I won't be able to pick him up till after 6pm...
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[quote="DazC"][quote="Stu @ M Developments"]
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And the , well nothing is ever straight forwards is it, unless you're fitting a fuse or a bulb.
I'm sure I could mess that up too
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Old Jun 23, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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JAP CRAP,

i ran my car in on grey injectors at 1 bar boost (could go no lower really on -34) on a low ignition "running in" chip, it was estimated at about 250hp at best

had no issues
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Matt,

cheers mate Might just have to order some porno 1000cc injectors then just cos it sounds good on the spec list, fpmsl
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