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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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last year, as many of you know, i had a bit of a bad day at work, basically, a fatality.

cut a long story short, had to go back, check for life etc etc only to find a woman in 3 pieces.

got a letter today from my solicitor saying that CICa (criminal injuries compensation association) will not pay out because my injuries were not "severe enough" to warrant a claim.

fuck me - i see dead people and was seeing the company counciller on a regular basis to keep me from going insane, and then i'm told that i cannot claim due to my condition not been serious enough? - not even offered to pay my loss of earnings due to the incident


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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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Shocking mate!
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:51 PM
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that is fooked up.

can you not appeal, take it to the local paper, etc.

basically cause a shit storm and they should take notice of ya.

hope u doing better now.

this remonds me of that scene from that film with Bruce WIllis and that kid that says "I see dead people"
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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errr union?!?!?!
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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i'm better yeah - but absolutely hate going to blackpool on the train so avoid it at all costs.

i can appeal, going to get some paperwork from my counciller to get a picture of my state of mind about the situation as i still aint 100%
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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errr union?!?!?!

this is the union solicitors
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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threaten to sue em as you have lost sleep, feel paranoid, edgy, stoned...ooooh wait ...thats me
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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That sucks mate, the amount of people who get compension that dont desirve it is untrue, then you get people like you who have seen something as bad as that and you carnt get shite, thats wrong!!!
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Maybe its cause you not the trains driver, so technically didnt run her over yourself.

You was the gaurd/conductor wasnt you?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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i went back to work a week later, then had another incident where i thought i saw a body in the same place (give or take a mile) ...............psycological problems?

in hindsight, i should of taken weeks off as i wasn't right to be working, but went back as i was still on probation (6 months probation from day of starting) so didnt want to create a bad impression
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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steve - i was the guard yes, but the driver didn't do fuckall - i went back and protected the line, contacted the signaller, informed controll, checked the victim for lifesigns and all the other dangerous bits while the driver did fuckall apart from sit there
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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suprsising, no matter what you was doing on the train, that you can see a mashed up body, get fucked up about it, and cant get no compo.

these days you can get compo for anything

gotta be summat you can do mate.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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aaaah it was a train....i assumed it was you driving a car not knowing the full story
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Looking from the outside in. It would appear like wheels within wheels!

Your employer/union/company counciler all sounds a little too tight to me.

IMO consulting a independant legal specialist would be worthwhile.

Dont be disheartened.

Knowing that you have suffered as the innocent party & fighting for recognition of the detremental impact it has had on your life. Is worth fighting for.

Best of luck!
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Sorry to hear that Paul, mate. Hopefully your appeal will get somewhere pal. Best of luck
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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I can see that an incident like this would affect you and I'm really, really glad I didn't have to see what you had to see, but why should your employer pay out?

I'd guess that they should maybe pay you while you were off sick, but compo? My boss won't pay me if I see a fatality on the road, even if I'm first on the scene and try to help.

Find out who the dead woman is and sue her estate. If anyone is liable for your distress, surely it is her?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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Unfortunatly mate your willingness to go back to work has worked against you

Been talking to a friend of mine whos a claims brief.

I know its to late now but:

Back to work? Cant to traumatised
Go to counciling? Cant to traumatised
Relationship problems? yes due to trauma of the event.

Unfortunatly chap this is the only way you would have got anything.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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Forgot to add,

If Graceland had a relapse causing him not to be able to leave the house due to flashback etcs - and the current councilour reminds him to much of past events then he may be able to get away with an independant assesment - and maybe compo. But thats not definate.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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my willingness to go back to work was to save me from been dismissed while on probation
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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Are you still on probation mate?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:17 PM
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no - my probation period ended on the 14th december last year - i went on the sick on the 10th
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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I wonder what it takes? Perhaps if the passengers start blowing themself up....
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Is the driver claiming and if so is he successful??

As, if he just sat there as you said, surely you have a stronger case as you actually did something about it at the time??

Might be worth your while seeing if he is claiming?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:29 PM
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whilst i was driving for a living i saw a guy on fire in his vehicle (leg still twitching) , a guy died trapped in his vehicle (while i was holding the drip) seen loads of crashes happen . it does affect you if you let it. never tried to claim tho' cheers nomad
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:32 PM
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the driver is claiming, i know that much - will ask him next time i see him if he is successfull in his claim.

Nomad - i see your point of view m8, but this incident has litrally stopped me doing my job properly for sometime now, just ask churchy what happened when i was on the phone to him while on that route.......
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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Steve - i was the guard yes, but the driver didn't do fuckall - i went back and protected the line, contacted the signaller, informed controll, checked the victim for lifesigns and all the other dangerous bits while the driver did fuckall apart from sit there
Dont you think the Driver was in Shock ?

I think you are being unfair to him

What you done was correct, and well done for what you did

PS Im a Driver Instructor
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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i totally agree - the driver may well of been in shock, but still - he is trained to protect in an emergency as you will know been a senior driver - if i had not protected and cautioned a train coming on the up line, then the driver of that too would of been running over the remains of an inconsiderate tart who took her life and that would of been more people off work
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But as you know Shock affects people in different ways.

Nobody can say how they will react when this happens.

No amount of training is going too help if you are that shocked.

We always look back on a incident and say what if we done this or that.

Like i said you done exactly what you was trained to do, which is brill, hope you was thanked for your actions.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:23 PM
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shock deffinately affects people differantly - the severity of the mornings events didnt sink in for me untill i was walking round B&Q in the afternoon - i froze and dropped everything i was holding


thanked by the DTM at blackpool yep, but my manager made me feel like a criminal when i got back to my home depot
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Your Manager needs man managment skills

Sounds like a coont

How he/she has the balls to make you feel like that i dont know

You should of been praised for your actions and offered counciling.
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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i was offered councilling, after i asked for a differant manager to deal with the situation.

chain of care etc etc - went to see the company counciller a few times, and i still detest going to blackpool on the train
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Has this Manager been removed ?

Should not be doing the job as it seems he/she cant do it correctly

Was the other manager better/more understanding ?

Did he/she follow the chain of care ?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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he aint nope, however, i am under a different manager now as we have 3 trains managers

the other manager was fantastic, did absolutely everything chain of care, the works
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Pleased other manager was/is helpful and understanding.

How come the coont aint been moved on ?
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 05:27 PM
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the coont will be moved on soon
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Old Jul 13, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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Best of luck with the fight
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