just phoned powerstaion in cheltenham, regarding my unichip and throttle bodies.

they say a unichip cant be used with TB's.


anyone got any very cheap aftermarket magagement going

 

are you TB's injected or carbed?

 

injected

basically, im keeping the zetec injectors, and where the TB injecters were, they are gonna be used for the idle control and brake servo vaccum

 

its because of the MAF sensor, it would not be used and they say it cant work out throttle angle X revs.

it only modifies the original signals or summut

 

you could use an airbox for the TBs and have the feed to the airbox going via the maf sensor?

that'd restrict the f**k out of the airflow tho

 

yeah, thought about that too, but 1 other problem, lack of space.

i could use the airbox that came with the TB's, but id have to lop a hole in the bonnet.....

 

cossie manangement
Fiesta OFAC/OFAB
DTA

 

ryan, how much do they cost, can i use my existing sensors, will i need other sensors????

and also, how would i fit them??

completely do away with the zetec ecu all together?

 

 

 

Speak with Simon @ SECS, seriously, top top management, and he will do you a deal im sure.

You are in Bradford, he is in Westbury, take 5mins to meet up and have a chat Say Phil sent you

 

Surely Cossie and FRST ECU's would fall foul of the same problem, as they both require MAS/MAP sensors... ?!?! You'd have to use a NA only setup I presume..??
Isn't it a 2D one you need.. Just speed and TPS.. where-as the Zetec one you've got is probably a 3D one with Speed, TPS and Load... and with TB's (without an airbox) you can't measure the load as a whole... ?!?!?! Not that I profess to know that much, i'm only guessing..


Luv
Chrisie...

 

phil, i did pm him.

he said to get new management, didnt say his tho.

chrisie, fook knows!

 

will cosworth L6 ecu work??

a few cheap on ebay at the mo

 

Best method IMO for TB's is to map fuel and spark angle with Throttle Angle vs. RPM.
You will need aftermarket management for this though, most (if not all) OEM systems will use MAP or MAF sensor based load sensing.

 

bugger

well the booklet on the unichip says it can be used with throttle bodies!!

bastards

 

maybe (no idea but you say it says so) unichip can be made to run TBs by someone good, someone with skills, a decent mapper/tuner.

but you went to powerstation

 

no, it was fitted by the guy that i got the car off, somewhere in boulton.

but i rang powerstation for advice, cos they fit them.

 

maybe get a second opinion of somebody good then if Unichip think they can run TBs

 

lol unichip

everyone said they are a bag of wank dood

webber do a ecu for this ask the guy with the orange mk2 fiesta from www.zetecinside.com

he runs a focus 2ltr lump on injected tbs

 

well, ive just spoke to a guy from millway sport in andover, he said it may work

he says that he would take a set value from the maf and work either side of it, or something.

he said it may work, it may not.

but its 2 days work and gonna cost me £600 just to find out....


anyone got a DTA or OMEX or anything lying around cheap

 

or Emerald M3D - that one was originally designed for TB format, throttle angle vs. RPM

 

how much do they go for rich???

its looking like im gonna have to bin the t/b's now as i cant afford the new management

 

Have u thought to put a call in 2 uncy stu!? sure he could do somethin for ya!

 

lewis, will he be able to make it work then??

i know the guy is quite handy at tuning etc, but with everyone else saying its nigh on impossible i dont know what to do.

ill pm him

 

http://www.emeraldm3d.com/

 

I'd be very surpised if a MAP/MAF based system would be able to use a throttle position as primary load measurement, as the algorithms will be quite different..

..waiting to be shot down by Stu...

 

no need to worry rich, he cant do it.

tb's are in the bin!

 

hey,,, whoa... hope that is only a figure of speech...

 

yeah, ok, they are still in the garage

BUT

i thought bollox to it

i unplugged the maf sensor!

and drove 10 miles

after 2k revs, it was fine, went like a c*nt infact

but under 2k it was a bit hesitant.

so.

if i stick a resistor accross the maf wires and leave it unplugged, it might just work...

a bodge yes, but if it works, itll do!

 

You're forgetting that a Uni-Chip is a "Piggy-Back" chip... NOT an ECU, perce...

All it does is intercept the signals from the sensors and modify them before sending them on to the ECU.. It simply fools the Ford management... !!!!

So, this still doesn't help with TB's, as the Zetec management most likely won't work... wot with it requiring a MAS/MAF signal...

See if you can sell it to someone who's 'zetecing' and old fezzy or scort, and buy a dedicated system...



Luv
Chrisie...

 

how much do you rekon i will get for it if i sell the unichip and ford ecu together??

£200?

 

Well you can sell the uni-chip to anyone..!! I was looking at one for mine... Are they the same unit for all Ford EEC ECU's..?? Cuz that would broaden it saleabilty to peeps like me... (not that I can afford it.. )

The ECU will be harder to shift, i would think, as it's only gonna appeal to a modder (2L zetec in a Mk1 fezzy kinda thing), or someone who's ECU has died...


Luv
Chrisie...

 

I ran Emerald with my GSXR bodies on my old RS2000 and it just made 216bhp on Power engineerings rollers, so it can't be bad

If you have plenty of time and patience.

http://bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html

http://www.bgsoflex.com/mjl/mjl_edis.html

Mark

 

there was a unichip on ebay a while back and i think that went for around the 200quid mark

 

roy, wanna buy one

mark, is that a build it yourself ECU then, and, will it actually work??

 

I know two people running it with no problems. You have to bear in mind the Megasquirt is fuel injection only so you would need to retain your original ecu to trigger the coils or build the Megajolt to go with the Megasuirt.

Mark

 

nope but i am sure you could sell it easy on the escort site or ebay

 

Megasquirt forums

http://www.msefi.com/index.php?c=2

Mark

EDIT for another link

http://www.megasquirt.info/UMS.htm