Whats the best size wheel for handling on a Cossie.
I have had......
Sapphire on...
7.5x17
215/40 front and rear - handled ok
7x17
215/40 rear
205/40 front - handled ok
8x17
215/40 front and rear understeered badley
205/40 front
225/45 rear
3dr
205/50/15 std rims not bad for a std car
8x16 Escort cos rims
215/40/16 - Horrible to drive
8x16 et35
215/40/16 - Nice to drive and comfort/handling was good
7.5 x 18
215/35 - tramlined like fook and wished i'd kept above
215/40/16 on 8x16 ET35
best out of the lot imo
Sapphire on...
7.5x17
215/40 front and rear - handled ok
7x17
215/40 rear
205/40 front - handled ok
8x17
215/40 front and rear understeered badley
205/40 front
225/45 rear
3dr
205/50/15 std rims not bad for a std car
8x16 Escort cos rims
215/40/16 - Horrible to drive
8x16 et35
215/40/16 - Nice to drive and comfort/handling was good
7.5 x 18
215/35 - tramlined like fook and wished i'd kept above
215/40/16 on 8x16 ET35
best out of the lot imo
i think 16's are great. I have 16's on the saph but havent really had the chance to try the handling out.
anyone else.
Im having a little arguement with my dad. He believes that I should put my 18's i have had lying around for ages on the saph before driving it again but i really dont want to.
anyone else.
Im having a little arguement with my dad. He believes that I should put my 18's i have had lying around for ages on the saph before driving it again but i really dont want to.
i love the 16's on mine 205 45 16. et28 7.5x16
Ill go 225/40/16 on the rears soon though. seems to tram line a little but i still need the tracking sorted
cars comfotrable and has a better turn in that on 17's on a saph i drove.
Ill go 225/40/16 on the rears soon though. seems to tram line a little but i still need the tracking sorted
cars comfotrable and has a better turn in that on 17's on a saph i drove.
on 18's at moment, ok for smooth / good roads, crap for everyday, not going to change just yet as engine getting work forst! alot of my trouble with the 18's may well be the lairy hard tarmac springs - will try different set up soon!
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Originally Posted by Ryan
Think it depends on suspension aswell as the wheels.
I want to get the best out of my car in the handling department.
Personally for a road car i would say Koni's with a tyre and wheel package that is as close to the overall diameter of the standard wheels tyre package.
I.e 16's x 7.5-8 with a medium wall height. i.e 215/40/16's
or 17's x 7.5-8 with a smaller wall height i.e 215/35/17's
Just my opinion of course. As you say everything is a compromise, and 1 persons preferance might not suit anothers.
I.e 16's x 7.5-8 with a medium wall height. i.e 215/40/16's
or 17's x 7.5-8 with a smaller wall height i.e 215/35/17's
Just my opinion of course. As you say everything is a compromise, and 1 persons preferance might not suit anothers.
JRST - I am biased by very bad roads in my country and my more rally oriented handling experience then track handling, but form little what I know about setting up Escort Cossie I would go for:
-8x16 wheels for road, if you can afford 8x18 wheels for track (altough extremly stiff tire on 8x16 wil be almost as good). May be slightly smaller ET then standard (ET15?), the lighter rim the better, so try gong for real pro wheels like Speedline, Compomotive, if budget allows magnesium
-rose-jointed adjustable TCA's in front (I have those - great!)
-rose-jointed adjustable rear setup -> Zoo Beam, preferably the lighter one.
-fully adjustable coilover suspention -> I think I will go for new kind of AVO's
-if needed - adjstable front top mounts or compstruts/whishbones + remote mounted front ARB
Somebody wise to set it all up!
To further help the handling diff upgrades (if it's 4x4):
-centre and front first (front ATB)
-rear (www.gearboxman.co.uk is the place to go for those I think)
I don't have MUCH comparision between different setups but this is sensible way of doing it I think. I currently have completly powerflex kit on mine, wront TCA's from ZOO Motorsport and Bilstein shocks with progressive springs by Lesjofors. + centre VC Grp N. It's quite fine altough there are too many downsides which I would like to remove.
-8x16 wheels for road, if you can afford 8x18 wheels for track (altough extremly stiff tire on 8x16 wil be almost as good). May be slightly smaller ET then standard (ET15?), the lighter rim the better, so try gong for real pro wheels like Speedline, Compomotive, if budget allows magnesium
-rose-jointed adjustable TCA's in front (I have those - great!)
-rose-jointed adjustable rear setup -> Zoo Beam, preferably the lighter one.
-fully adjustable coilover suspention -> I think I will go for new kind of AVO's
-if needed - adjstable front top mounts or compstruts/whishbones + remote mounted front ARB
Somebody wise to set it all up!
To further help the handling diff upgrades (if it's 4x4):
-centre and front first (front ATB)
-rear (www.gearboxman.co.uk is the place to go for those I think)
I don't have MUCH comparision between different setups but this is sensible way of doing it I think. I currently have completly powerflex kit on mine, wront TCA's from ZOO Motorsport and Bilstein shocks with progressive springs by Lesjofors. + centre VC Grp N. It's quite fine altough there are too many downsides which I would like to remove.
Thats such great answers from all. I have 16 x 8 Speedlines (3 piece split rims) on the car at the moment with yoko prada's (front) and a539 (rear). Suspension wise I have AVO coilovers which ride good.
Originally Posted by JRST
Thats such great answers from all. I have 16 x 8 Speedlines (3 piece split rims) on the car at the moment with yoko prada's (front) and a539 (rear). Suspension wise I have AVO coilovers which ride good.
I wouln't change anything with wheels. Try removing bushings and having more adjustable geometry. That will change a lot!
I was shocked what was difference between standard Impreza Turbo and one with heavily altered geometry for rally use and still standard apart from that. It's couple of seconds per kilometer of stage!
My Sapphire is on the standard 15s and handles well on bumpy country roads compared to some cars I have followed and who have reported that they were really feeling the jolts on their 17s.
I did have a set of 7.5j x16s off my old XR4 which I tried for a while and the turn in felt better but I seemed to think it was worse on some bumpy roads.
I would say 16s are a good road compromise simply because you have access to a wider range of performance tyres - for example they don't do the new Yoko Paradas in a 15 ( I think).
Depends what you want to use it for really - you'll probably find the bigger wheels are good on a smooth track
I did have a set of 7.5j x16s off my old XR4 which I tried for a while and the turn in felt better but I seemed to think it was worse on some bumpy roads.
I would say 16s are a good road compromise simply because you have access to a wider range of performance tyres - for example they don't do the new Yoko Paradas in a 15 ( I think).
Depends what you want to use it for really - you'll probably find the bigger wheels are good on a smooth track
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