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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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Need a std Mk 5 tailgate NEW

are these still available?

anyone got any ideas on how much they cost?

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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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so will i in the not too distant future, the ONLY panel on the car to have even started to rot
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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but for intrest,

finis, 6876418 Ł350 bare escos tailgate
7371752 Ł300 bare mk5escort tailgate
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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I need one for a mk6. Thats the only thing rusted on the car aswell. Annoying!
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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all escos used the mk5 tailgate though..
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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there are two different tailgates for the mk5 the difference is in the window size
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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whys the cossie one Ł50 more? do you have to pay for the holes
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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dave what rears you got at the mo? i wanna change mine which are standard but i know they wont be clean enough looking for your car
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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I got a new Esc Cos one from ford in 2003 cost me Ł296.11 part code 6765332 (from reciept) if anyones interested I will dig it out and get some photos.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by AJ Escos
there are two different tailgates for the mk5 the difference is in the window size

the later mk5 (non cossie) also had lights in the tailgate.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER

the later mk5 (non cossie) also had lights in the tailgate.
ah, BUT the ones with the lighs were a different shape alltogether and had a curved boot lid egde (these are the mk6 one) the mk 5 ones sat almost flat acrossthe back from wing to wing.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:00 AM
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mk5 (including all escos)less the holes obviously.....



mk6 (with the curve and lights)

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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guys, mine hasnt rusted.. i need one without the holes.

does the tailgate come with glass?

cheers for the finis codes.. does anyone know for sure which tailgate will fit the esc cos?

i really dont want to fill the original holes / wiper hole and i REALLY dont want to go to a scrappy to get one.. id much rather pay the extra for brand new

Gareth.. do you mean rear lenses???
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:19 AM
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the finis codes are as for as stated

the only difference is that the no cos ones doesnt have the holes for the spoiler but does have the wiper and wash holes which are blanked with a plastic grommet if not used, no glass IIRC, just the tinwork in grey primer.
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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Dave,

You need a mk5 tailgate...all the esc cos's we've built use the mk 5 tailgate....tailgates dont come with glass...they will all fit the esc cos...your new wrc spoiler wont fit on a mk6 tailgate....

Car looks well mate...

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:28 AM
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thanks Dave, appreciated

Ian, yes pal, i wasnt in any danger of ordering a Mk6 tail. Thanks for the comment on the car too should see a lot more work on it soon

out of interest Ian, of the cars you build.. do you ever use an in tank pump? im currently replacing mine with a bosh 023 item and want to use aeroquip hose from the two unions projecting from the tank.. im guessing i just need to get -6 male fittings welded / brased to these pipes?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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Dave,

We use a boot mounted bag tank...2 separate pumps

The in tank mod was something we did wen we built grp 'n' cars....that was a long time ago and i cant just recall how we put them together....the method you describe sounds fine though....we tend to silver solder mods to fuel components/rails etc....

The new car was painted last week....and before you start to give me s**t the colour was decided a long time ago.....



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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:41 AM
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Ian, that is quality! now the question you probably visioned....


those front wings.. are they steel and where did you get them from (although I suspect you will say they came with the shell)

im going to pull my finger out and actually get a set of steel wins and get them sent to be hand beaten and sprayed if i cant source any
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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They are kevlar mate....we get them from a guy in Darlington...all the panels on the car except the rear quarters are composite....Ramsport 01824 70 70 38 had a set of genuine steel wings for sale...i thought i'd sent you the info....

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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ooh, did I not reply.. sorry Ian thanks for that.. but they didnt have any for sale when i rang.. they can get the carbon composite in though
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Its he same old thing....up close they won't look as good as the steel wings......on an old rally car you expect the door gaps to not quite line up (adds character)...but on a minter like yours i'd be sending them to Gordy Vincent and having some genuine steel versions done....I took this pic to try to show how wide the WRC car is compared to the normal esc....unfortunately i'm not that adept with the old camera....



Did they give a price for the carbon wings?

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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Ian, that IS a lot wider than a std esc! If you werent so far away, id deffo nip up for a brew and a look at that whats the plan for it?

Gordon Vincent? is he the guy that hand beats them? Do you have his details, or company name and location?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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Its a Gravel Spec WRC Car....we were hoping to do this years BTRDA in it but funds have been tight so it looks like it will be next year..the car has been trial built so its just a case of nailing it all back together in the next couple of weeks...

All the usual stuff...6 speed active FFD box...active 8.5" front diff.....WRC engine 8 inj..ihi turbo....fuel safe bag tank...proflex...aluminuim prop...fabrictaed 6 point front x-member...shell as light as we can...

Gordon Vincent is the guy who did all the Boreham Fabrication work...his company ACS engnieering is in Witham...01376513419...when he does the wrc shells he cuts the rear inner arches and pulls them out by about 1".....they then as you say roll and beat the fronts....he did the cage, mounts and pickups on this shell and although it wasn't a new shell its a work of art...


Rear suspension and cage pick-up points...

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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Ian, that looks superb! all the best in getting it built and stage ready! I think ill give the guy a call and see if he can source and mould me a pair of front wings!

are they easy to fit ??
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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oh... ramsport charge Ł300 + twat per front wing
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Originally Posted by sibster
All the usual stuff...6 speed active FFD box...active 8.5" front diff.....WRC engine 8 inj..ihi turbo....fuel safe bag tank...proflex...aluminuim prop...fabrictaed 6 point front x-member...shell as light as we can...
Sweeeet
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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To change em if (wen) we batter em we bolt the from wings....but you could easily bond (sikaflex) them on...I think i paid about Ł150 a piece for the kevlar wings....Ł300 is taking the piss....if you have no joy and still want some I can see if i can get you a pair....

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Those pics are stunning, to the un-trained eye it amazing just how much of a difference there is between a standard Escort Cosworth and a WRC Version!

Can a WRC Version be made from a road going Escort Cosworth or are the WRC shell's different to start with?

Pics look simply stunning mate!
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Cheers Ian, im goin to take the car up to gordon vincent when its rolling, get some steel hand beaten ones
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Are the rear arches widened aswell as i've heard this banded about before?
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Are the rear arches widened aswell as i've heard this banded about before?
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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Dan,

You could convert a standard road car to WRC spec but it means a strip down to a bare shell...

The rear arches are widened by about and inch from standard as are the fronts...

Glad you like it...

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Cool thanks for reply!

Car looks the nuts mate, are those recent pics or have you got any further with it now, would love to see more!

Sorry for the spamming Dave!
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I sourced a mkV tailgate with standard tinted glass and lock/key for mine when I was going to WRC it. It is in good condition, debadged, diamond white.
Its surplus to requirements now and taking up valuable space, so PM me if you want it cheap.
Nice WRC pics BTW - that fatarse is lovely, much meaner than a std escos.

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