Friend of mine wants to convert his car to RWD but doesnt know how to go about it

Any help please??

 

What car?

Is he after F/R or M/R?

 

Peugeot 205, Could you run by me what F/R and M/R is please? :blonde:

 

Front engined RWD, or Mid engined/rear engined RWD

 

Front Engined Rear wheel drive
Mid Engined Rear wheel drive


What engine is he hoping to use?

Vauxhall c20xe with a ford type 9 gearbox is a popular choice for such conversions, its a massive project to take on though, and anyone who doesnt know what it involves shouldnt be attempting it really IMHO.

You could try and use the Mi16 or 1.9gti engine but i suspect you may have issues getting it to lean over enough to stay at similar orientation (you will get oil movement issues if you dont) but im not aware of an adaptor to fit to a rwd box or a sump that would work with that engine.

 

Front Engined RWD he would like to do.

 

Tell your friend to sell his car and buy a RWD one.

If he doesn't know how to do it, he isn't going to be able to learn from a car forum

 

He doesnt want to do it, He wants a Specialist or some sort. Dont spose you guys know a ruff estimate on money wise this can cost do you? Also who could do this Conversion off here?

 

Example of M/R conversion (my nova)

 

Fucking kool

 

Depends entirely on the spec and who does the work.

But probably (based on second hand stuff)
Few hundred quid for half decent engine
Few hundred quid for adaptor plate and sump
Few hundred quid for manifold
Few hundred quid for exhaust
Few hundred quid for diff/rear beam etc

Then a few weeks work, at 40 hours a week at 40 quid an hour.

So ballpark figure 5K+

 

Jim,

It's a bit of a general question though.

What engine, what running gear etc etc etc etc....................

 

PON, hence the extreme vagueness of my answer, just trying to highly approx what is involved.

Loads of other minor things though, like for exmaple if using an engine like the 20XE i suggested it wont fit with the dizzy in its normal position so you have to relocate that etc.

 

 

to give u a idea on price!

I had quotes of around 3k to convert a mk4 escort to take cossie running gear!

thats just the basic fabriaction!

 

Ironic response from someone who wanted a 4wd car so bought a rwd one

 

He already has a Peugeot 205 Shell but his mind has clicked on something different. He was thinking of wacking a 4x4 Cossie engine in it, But before he goes any further he wants to get all the possible and negatives about doing it.

 

Chip - it was 4x4 converted when Lee bought it

 

in my arse already this week then, and its only monday still

 

Pros, would be different (only a few cossie 4wd 205s that i know of)
Would be quite quick
Should handle ok (although not like a 205 anymore, would be a different character)

Cons, cossie gearbox is a bit chocolatey (evo box would be better bet)
cossie engine sits wrong way round to fit nicely (evo running would be better bet for this reason too)
Going to cost him 10K+ realistically all in

 

That'd be lethal!

RWD turbo power in a car with as short a wheelbase as a 205?

Even 4x4 it'd still be lively!

If it's for a road car, then tell him not to waste his money..........

 

Is that just for the RWD Conversion?

 

For 4wd supplying and fitting all the bits
(you changed your mind to 4wd a few posts ago didnt you?)

 

Track car mate

 

If its for a track car, then do it MR instead, will handle better anyway if properly setup, and is simpler in a lot of ways (he can use existing engine and box and driveshafts etc for example)

But better still for a trackcar just leave the fooking thing alone!
205 gti's handle fantastically in FWD guise if properly setup, so why would you want to convert one to RWD?

Sounds like a dreamer who hasnt thought things through!

 

4x4 engine i said i think? What would be best you think, hes gonna appreciate all the comments so might aswel knock em out, He wanted RWD originaly because mostley every performance car is RWD ie: Ferrari, Lambo, Porsche etc..

 

Chip he said 4wd engine... thats what confused you

 

 

CORRECT!! its true

 

Lambo - 4wd

Porsche - can be bought in 4wd format

There is no way that your mate is a skilled enough driver that it has to be RWD for that reason.

If he's that skilled, then he should be able to hussle a 205GTi round a track quicker than nearly every other car out on the circuit in 99% of cases.

Brother's old 205 tarmac car was devistatingly quick and handled far better than most cossies I've ever seen

 

I like 205s a lot, in fact i even used to have one (all be it an mi16 one not a standard one) but i cant see why in the world anyone wanting a rwd car would start with one.


Lets look at it logicaly:
He will spend a LOT of money just to get where he would be in the first place if he bought an escort mk2 or a manta or something in the first place.
The shells arent exactly the most sturdy thing in the world, they crack around the back end just from cornering hard.
The only real redeeming feature they have is the fantastic handling but thats going to be irrelevant as none of the suspension etc will remain, so its not going to be a 205 anymore, just a mk2 escort or similar that happens to look like a 205.

Pointless waste of time when he could just buy a 3door for the same money and use that if he wants rwd cossie power.
It would actually hold its value too then

 

IMO you would be better off dropping a MI16 lump in it, stripping it out and spending a few quid on having the suspension set up and a massive set of brakes.

 

Fucking spot on bit of advice that is

 

PS

If a bunch of hardcore cossie lovers think it would make a better car without a cossie engine in it, its probably a pretty good indication dont you think

 

Someone off here did a Fiesta Cosworth (Black one if i remember) what was that? RW or 4x4?

 

4wd, but expect a big budget to do it to that standard.

 

who is best to ask about rwd conversions???

 

Steve scott from A1 Rally is a bit handy when it comes to adding bits that aint ment to be there.

 

Whats his PassionFord Screen name? and website?

 

Im not telling you cause i dont want to be held responsible for him getting a phonecall from some tosser with a 205 who is daydreaming and wasting his time