Hi Folks!

First of all, I know this isn't the right room, but I need some answers quick, so I can start.

I'm planning on swapping my very sporty 1.4 carb'ed cvh with an 1.6 xr3i engine.

My question is, which MMS (motro management system) can I use the best?

I've got my eye on an EFI, i've read somewhere these don't need regular fine tuning in comparison with K-Jetronic or KE-JEtronic systems.

Which system can I use the best and for what reason? My planning is to fit a K&N filter, sport exhaust, higher compression and maybe flowing of the head.

IS an EFI easier to upgrade in your search for power by fitting another customized chip than it is to adjust a K or KE-Jetronic system?

Is it only a question of fitting another chip on an EFI system? And how long can you drive with the OE chip? When do you need to fit an aftermarket chip?

And the last question..if i'm going for an K or KE-Jetronic system how do i recognise them, what are the physical differences?
I know it, it are a lot of questions but there are a lot of brains here, so guys, help me out on this one.

Thanks!
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Got an escort 1.4 mk4 --> 1.6 xr3i

 

just rs turbo it mate, cheaper than tuning a xr3i lump in the long run

KE Jetronic cant be run on xr3i,its rs turbo mangement. KE Has 2 ecus, K hasnt any

 

I know it is cheaper in the long run, but my 1.4 engine is throwing oil in different places. I need a replacement and fast. an rst lump is more expensive in buying than a xr3i lump.

But the best option is to hang a rst lump in it you say? where do i have to watch so i don't buy a dodgy one? How can i reckognize a worn turbo etc etc? are there some places i must inspect because they are sensitive?

If i'm still going for a xr3i lump, is my best bet the EFI system or the K-Jetronic?

 

your goin to need a new fuel tank and fuel pump and everything too!

 

I know that i need a new tank, pump etc.

At the local breakers yard there is an XR3i convertible with EFI. I can take the car with me for 200 quid. It looked to me for it was the best option. I can take the car next to mine and swap everything that is different.

If i'm going for a turbo conversion i need first to find a rst, then need the money to buy it cauz it wil be more expensive , and then swap it.

My plan was to go for now for the xr3i with some uprated stuff and later on swap this one for an 2 litre zetec turbo with EFI or an other system.

what's your thinkin' 'bout this

 

i would wait until you can go the whole hog!

 

can't wait cuz my motor is throwing oil at various places. Don't want to spent money on an 1.4, so i thought maybe a swap to an xr3i for now and than in all rest build an 2 litre turbo for my motor.

it's a question of time and money, don't have the money right now for an turbo zetec build, but do have the money for an xr3i.

could let the xr3i bog standard to save money for the turbo rebuild

 

Found an 105 Bhp zetec engine..could be fun too..may-b putting a turbo on it... i'm still thinkin' with me brains

Could you guys tell me what i exactly have to change to make it a turbo'ed engine?

first swap to an 130 bhp spec engine then decompression pistons, cvh exhaust manifold and some nice big bore exhoust behind it? Can i use a cvh exhaust pipe or do i need something bigger?

Need some help guys can't make up my mind

 

i wouldnt bother with the 1.6 zetec, i would just buy the pre 90 spec xr3i/cab for 200 quid or so, and transfer the lot over, EFI has more wires etc, MFI nice and simple

 

If you have the 1.4 engine running on a carb, why not get a an XR3 carb and use the 1.6 engine with that, no wiring issues or fuel tank changes. That way you can then gather all the parts you need to do the conversion you want all in one go, not in bits.

Personnaly i would go for a modern after market managment, ie DTA, emerald, omex etc.. offers a far better scope for future tuning options, ie if you start off with an efi inlet, then decide you want big ass throttle bodies with injectors, this can be mapped accordingly. With K or KE jet you are going to be limtied as to what you want you can achieve.

 

it isn't a 1.6 zetec but a 1.8, got some ideas 'bout doin' a turbo on that one... i'm taking my time now and do it all at once.

when i'm doing a 1.8 zetec turbo, what's the best setup i can get for about 1000 quid?

 

why dont you just stick and xr2 engine in there and then all youd need is engine £50 and carb another £10 sorted saves you fucking around with looms petrol tanks etc etc would just bolt stright in loom probably identicle too i think 1.4s had rev counters too

 

Yes..my very sporty 1.4 has a rev counter but I don't want a carb, i want injection

Found an 1.8 clx (105 bhp) on the breakers yard for 200 quid. this engine is internally the same as the 130 bhp version isn't it? Think i'm going to use that as a base for a turbo 1.8.

My thought was using the EFI management with custom chip, 1.8 zetec with lowered compression and exhaust manifold of an rs turbo (low pressure), then using a rst scorpion exhaust.

How much bhp and torque should this bring to my car?

My guess is round 160/170 bhp or so? Am i very wrong here?

A RST gearbox with lsd should cope with this power??

 

efi is wickd cos you get turbo chatter although my mfi now has turbo chatter with tis fmi

personly id say fuck it go on flee bay buy your self mfi rst loom and engine and make sure you get metering head and 2 ecus, will set you back about £300 then youl have a sweet easy set up.


No point paying £200 for a 1.8 zetech might aswell buy a mondy 2.0 lump and run zvh a few ppl run 2 ltr na zvh and get them to around 150 bhp with de cat filetr etc which will be quite cool for starters

 

i got an 1800 (105 bhp) lump with the car attached to it for 200 quid. i am negotiating for an rst lump for ??? quid. next thing i need is an rst gearbox with lsd, what do this things cost normally?

i'm planning of making a 1800 zetec turbo with efi management and the turbo and exhaust manifold from the rst lump. What do i also need from the rst to get it going? i'm planning a low boost pressure in the beginning so i don't need a huge expensive intercooler right away. don't have the money for that right now.

cauz it's my first engine rebuild it would be nice to get some advice 'bout stuf that i also need or stuf that i should left behind.

My budget is (including redoing the car itself) about 1300 quid. What do you guys advice knowing that it's my first rebuild so i don't wanna do a zvh.