as above please nothing fancy needed my saff is a stage 1. Chip isn't needed as I have a md one. I don't have plans on having a hot one thanks ray

 

Hi Ray, the problem is now a lot of 2WD Saff owners have modified them and ditched the original L6 in favour of either a modern ECU or the L8 4wd one and probably scrapped them. Have you tried the few places which still break Saffs? Merry Christmas!

 

thanks for the reply what I should of put as the title to the new thread is or anything that will run it. I'm not sure what I have to do to get the 4x4 ecu to run mine I no I've got to swop the two outer wires around on the tps not sure about anything els. I can't believe I'm going through this again. I found a fault two years ago that could of caused this it's hard work being a fukin idiot. I've got James at auto Dynamix trying to source another mine can't be repaired. I hope you two and anyone reading this has a good Christmas and a happy new year

 

Hi Ray, if you are keeping the engine standard there is no need for a 4x4 ECU. The reason I swapped mine for the L8 was it could have a baby board fitted by MSD as the driver for the low impedence 890cc Siemens injectors.Hopefully James can find one for you.

 

go aftermarket.

after you fix the wiring

 

I had new engine, fans and fuel pump wiring done when I started modifying mine as well as wasted spark ignition.

 

it will be interesting to see what an aftermarket ecu cost bloody exspensive i bet. im either getting a new engine loom from auto dynamix or i might make my own by copying mine. there easy enough to make. but living in west cornwall one doesnt have deep pockets

 

But Ray didn't

 

It can be as expensive or cheap as you want to make it, there are endless options these days. But obviously to make it cheaper, you need to have more skills and competence so you can do the work.

In most cases, it's safer paying someone. This would be at the lower end price wise for a plug n play kit. But it would also assume your existing wiring is safe and functional, which may be at question.

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Or you could go down the route of a custom wiring harness instead of a plug in adapter which saves some money on the adapter, in lieu of spending more on a complete new harness.

Clint/BHP seems to offer decent support for a few ecu's

I'd take Haltech before Link. I utterly despise the software Link use, even if their hardware is usually ok.

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thanks for the reminder

 

i did the same twenty years ago but now the egine loom must have a dead short

 

Hi Ray,having the looms spot on is a must before anything else. My old original Ford one had an intermittent short which seems to be fairly common as most are now 30+ years old!

 

i will pull the loom out and copy it. but first i have to get an auto electrician out he is coming january just to make sure its nothing els. there is one on ebay the seller isnt sure what it is though but he isnt very good at returning messages. its a shame as its only fifty mile up the road

 

Hi Ray , I personally think when it comes to a loom it has to be brand new, a used one may be a lot cheaper but how can you be sure it will be fault free?

 

You can't be sure a new one will be fault free either..

Depends how properly either has actually been tested.

 

no i wouldnt have a second hand one. i could copy my own its quite straight forward to make you can buy all the plugs. i will more than likely buy a new one there £549 its alot of money. if im going to make one you open up the loom get all the insulation of and change one wire at a time.sorry just read my previous post i meant there is a second hand ecu online. matey should be getting back to me today

 

ive managed to get another L6 ecu. just got to wait untill end of the month to get engine loom

 

Hi Ray, I think you have been lucky to find an L6 ECU, once your loom is sorted, hopefully the electrics will be all be OK. The price of a new loom seems pretty good ,I paid about the same for mine more than 12 years ago.

 

I would like to think a brand new loom will have been tested before being sent out, plus it will probably have at least a years guarantee on it.

 

There's two ways of looking at this there's two L6 on ebay. A runner in Birmingham sold me this as the saff owner upgraded to a l8. Auto Dynamix sold the other one two years ago I got this for the same reason. So looking at it I wouldn't like to try get hold of an l8 or p8. Just hope mine don't turn up in the post damaged. It's already got no screws from the lid on one side. But I can use my other ones. Who looses screws like that

 

Imagine that I get the auto electrician he confirms my loom is fukered I put the new one in and it burns the car down to the ground. Hope I've not tempted fate. When I first go for start up I'm putting my nose on top of the ecu when they burn they fukin stink. I wrapped my old burnt one in a black bin bag I could still smell it

 

"fukered" isn't a really technical term. What exactly is wrong with it ?

 

Fukered is what it sounds like. I'm afraid m8 your going to have to use your amagination

 

quick update. ive ordered the new engine loom from auto dynamix four to six weeks wait. for the same money as the std loom theyve given me the upgraded version comes with fitting instructions ill have a read while waiting. got the sparky coming out soon to diagnose a fault hopefully

 

Hi Ray, sounds like you are making good progress with your 2wd Saff electrics. If the new loom is like the one I got it will come with everything labelled which makes it fairly easy to wire in.

 

They've told me it's an easy install good to hear that you did yours. Did yours go straight to your battery. Aparantly without looking part of the engine loom goes up the n/s A pillar

 

Hi Ray it has been a long time since mine was done and I don't remember exactly how it went in,but I would be certain that the instructions you will get with it will explain fully how to wire it in.

 

I fitted an Autodynamix loom to my 3dr last year - very well made bit of kit. Expensive but you get what you pay for.
It also cured various minor problems I had which I had always suspected were related to the old loom. Random intermittent things which all went away after fitting the loom
The new loom goes straight to the battery cutting out all the old wiring. Combined with a new fuel pump loom and alternator/cooling loom, I can now take the car out and enjoy it without wondering if it's going to break down
Mine had the MSD wasted spark wiring integrated as well.

 

I did the same with mine , new wiring to the 044 fuel pump and new wiring to the fans and MSD wasted spark ignition.At the same time I had an L8 ECU with the MSD baby board for the Siemens 890cc injectors.

 

i would of liked a few add owns to the loom but being on a budget im having a standered one. but having re wired the fuel pump and the cooling fans a few years back and not wanting 400bhp this is what i thought best. i like the idea of wasted spark but never had any issues with miss fires or any other running problems untill now apart from the waste gate actuator .im not sure if i can have the drivers installed on my L6 ecu for the wasted spark. i like the idea of it being nearly std

 

Hi Ray , what you are getting done will make a big difference and as everything is going to be pretty near standard you don't need any of the other add ons that I have got.

 

update the auto electrician is coming on the 26/1. im hoping he can pin point the problem. im waiting for the loom to be made my L6 ecu has turned up auto dynamix sent my chip back to me and the eight cover screws from my burnt out ecu that they looked at for repair.the second hand ecu didnt have any screws in the covers some fukin idiot lost them the covers were held on with packing tape. ive put my md chip back in along with the screws. ive had a look at my egine loom today for best plan of attack for removing it

 

update. the auto electrician let me down said he had to cancal i said book me in a gaine on his next slot but not heard anything. trying to get anything done like this in west cornwall is nearly impossable. i got the old engine loom out today took me a couple of hours. i did an hour yesterday and the same today. if your going to do this job on your own as i did i recomend pulling the loom out through the engine bay infact down underneath it was really easy. if theres two of you bring it through the car. i also stripped all the insulation of the old loom just on a visual the loom looks fine nothing burnt chaffed or forteuged ill ohms test it while im waiting for the new one. my saff had alot of optional extras from the factory as the id plate on the slam panal is marked with full leather and blue dash for a 1988 saff all came with grey cloth as im lead to believe also a clifford alarm with what looks like factory grommets in the bulkhead its to tidy a job to have been fitted after. just one multi pin plug powering up the loom

 

Good luck with changing it over. The new loom should come with labels on everything so hopefully fairly straight forward.

 

yeah cheers for the encouraging words. one wouldnt think i used to be a proffesional mechanic theses days. the new loom comes all labelld up. i cant beleive the size of the wiring loom for the clifford alarm and the imobiliser has the same on the other side of the car theres got to be forty wires between them but only three of them stoped the car starting one to the coil and the other two were joined together and went in the engine loom by the injectors. im just hoping it wont stop the car starting but i cant see how as the the new loom has a new live and the new wiring is hot straight from the ecu. i will have to get the old alarm out at some point and get another imobiliser as it was just the imob that was operational im sure the two are wired together

 

[QUOTE=lewisrassel;6834247]I think you have been lucky to find an L6 ECU, once your loom is sorted, hopefully the electrics will be all be OK. The price of a new loom seems pretty good ,I paid about the same for mine more than 12 years ago.[hi there nice to hear from you. There's another angle to be looked at when buying a second hand L6 is that most cossie owners don't want them because you can not integrate closed loop and launch control and the likes on to them. The L8 are stupid money and you have to wait for one to come up from runners that have upgraded an L1 or L6. Unfortunately I've sorsed two L6 in nearly three years. Auto dynamic hand make them and mine being made now hopefully I spoke with them last Friday as I ordered it first week in January. As soon as I've fitted the loom I've a good auto electrician coming out to test everything before the the big plug in. So touch wood I won't be looking for another L1 or L6. There not plenty full for sure and the days will come when you say you will be lucky to get one

 

just an update. my engine loom has come i fitted it yesterday it was allbut straight forward. everything was labled. i kept the old loom handy i had to pin out a couple of things to check polarity on the amal valve pin out the injectors. but when you place the loom over the engine everything falls in place. ive got an auto electrician coming out he's told me to ring him tomorow so before i plug in the ecu we can check out and hopefully go for a clear prop

 

update on my engine wiring loom and ecu. everything is all in place the sparky came out today what a nice chap. we havnt gone for a start up on his advise. everything checks out good almost he's happy with what ive done as in fuel pump rewire and earths and the new loom. the injectors checked out good. he was more intrested in checking out the fried ecu but like autodynamix said the damage on the board doesnt seem related to any particular ecu pin so it doesnt point to any particular cause. maybe around the injector drivers area. he didnt like the idea that the cobra alarm was patched into the signal wire going back to the ecu from the ignition amp he says its a no no. steve is in his early sixties and installed such things back in the day and a master sparky. as it happens he no's an ecu exspert so the burnt ecu is going for him and he should be able to tell us what pin the fault has come from. the old loom doesnt give many clues either apart from the signal wire.nobody has heard of a std cossie having such issues only intermitend problems with missfires and shut downs not physicaly burning ecu units. so it continues we think the problem has more than likely gone with the old loom. but sometimes you can never be to carefull so hopefully in the next week or two all should be good

 

another update. my old burnt ecu was looked at by an ecu exspert and i mean exspert. he said the unit is reparable for £130 which is not alot of money considering. bearing in mind x2 other ecu people have looked at this unit and told me its not. the main reason we got the exspert to look at it was to see what pin the fault was related to as the others couldnt tell. he managed to do a part repare on the unit to carry out more tests on the unit and has found where the fault has come from and its the boost circuit that it is what i call an exspert. when the sparky comes back we can look at the amol valve etc and anything related

 

Hi Ray, looks like you are making progress with the electrics and when it comes to things like tracing the fault on your ecu you really do need a proper expert that knows what he is doing! You should soon have it running fault free again.