yeah cheers for the encouraging words. one wouldnt think i used to be a proffesional mechanic theses days. the new loom comes all labelld up. i cant beleive the size of the wiring loom for the clifford alarm and the imobiliser has the same on the other side of the car theres got to be forty wires between them but only three of them stoped the car starting one to the coil and the other two were joined together and went in the engine loom by the injectors. im just hoping it wont stop the car starting but i cant see how as the the new loom has a new live and the new wiring is hot straight from the ecu. i will have to get the old alarm out at some point and get another imobiliser as it was just the imob that was operational im sure the two are wired together