Hey all!

My new account! I haven't been on here in any years. I don't even recall my old account and wasn't able to find it... My must have been 10 years maybe...

Cutting to the chase... LHD sierra Sapph 2.0. mine, sitting in my uncle's garage in Spain currently.

What are decent engine option for a swap? Not looking for Cosworth or a V8.

I was thinking zetec or similar.. non turbo, just wanna get it in there...maybe one-day it could be turboed up. Just looking for a bit more modern and reliable.

Many places doing swaps nowadays?
​​​​​​Sorry I'm completely out of the loop and haven't been behind the wheel of a ford in a long time.

Cheers fellas

 

Hi, is it a pinto 2.0 engine or a dohc 8v?

 

It's the DOHC engine.

I was reading there was a turbo technics kit for it. But they're rare as hens teeth by now I'd bet.

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You'd need some idea of goals and budget.

But a n/a 2.0 swap seems a little boring when it is already a 2.0 presumably n/a ?

 

The DOHC one with EFi

yeah but its old and slow. I feel like the modernizing would be good. I figure, get it in... Turbo later.

What's Jano like for swaps nowadays?

 

I wouldn’t bother with a zetec swap unless you’re going to turbo it now. It’s still going to feel old and slow.
id think of something more unusual if you really want to but definitely something with more than 130bhp

 

The options are endless.

Easiest and cheapest swap probably is a 2,0 Zetec ITB (preferably a ST170 basis), good for up to 200 bhp without touching the bottom end; turbocharging will get you far beyond 300 bhp when you're willing to invest some money on the bottom end.
Mostly the same work but the better engine: 2.0 Duratec HE with ITB, also about 200+ bhp with the right setup
2,3 16V might be an option (RS2000 16V based engine). Nearly nobody tried to get some power out of these engines, but I think with cams and ITBs you'd also see ~200 bhp. Plus it was longtitudinal mounted (in the last Scorpio) from factory which makes it easier to put in when buying a whole donor car.
Cosworth 24V: Over here you get these quite cheap, mostly bulletproof engines, good torque but there's mostly no tuning parts available, especially a set of sports cams would be great to have as the setup of the engine is for a comfortable cruiser mostly.

And there's many, many more options. How about an inline six M3 engine? 286-360 bhp standard.
Or maybe one of the crazy japanese engines (2JZ etc.) I don't know much about?

 

A lot really rate the Honda Civic type r engine easy to turbo as well

 

The choice is wild these days, but again it comes back down to goals and budget. Some swaps will be cheaper than others and easier than others.
And of course ease of finding a suitable transmission or adapter within his budget or does he want to stick with whatever trans he currently has.

 

This is true, I guess it would be about these power as the costing motor it has now. But with a few more options for the future. Not much in tuning potential for the dohc

In a rwd set up eh. That would he an interesting swap. I guess there's always the s2000 motor too.

As you say, budget it the biggest concern, taking power with reliability into account. I think this is something I want to drive a lot, but not end up losing my licence, and having to remortgage to run the thing either.

That's why I was thinking zetec.. lots of rwd swaps have been done. They are a solid engine, lots of mods and other parts available for them too. Does this equate to a cheaper swap? Assuming because it has been done so much, people are more familiar.

​​​​​​Going on what ive seen cossie engines go for lately, I'd imagine that once I buy one and all the bits it might be better to buy a real one. Plus a real cossie won't depreciate as much as this build.

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As I'm not in a position to do this myself right now. It's gonna be paid work. Who are some decent people to talk to about my options??
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Plan on doing 2 myself next year, first will be a Zetec which is probably the cheapest and easiest as it goes on to the original gearbox, just need a sump, flywheel & clutch, water rail and inlet manifold all available and you can use the ford Ecu. Going st170 gets more power but adds to the cost and work involved. Both can have a turbo fitted later

Next is a 24v Cosworth v6, which requires a gearbox change, I have gone for a T5 with new bell housing and Cosworth 2wd propshaft which should be easier to fit, new flywheel and clutch also required and will probably need a new ecu, all in all an expensive way to go

The other option I would consider is Mazda, either MX5 complete or once the Mazda gearbox is installed it opens up more options

 

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