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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 10:54 PM
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Hello, i am completely new to this forum but i have a dilemma i need help with.

I am going to look at a mk1 sierra tomorrow that belongs to someone i know who has been banned from driving.

he drove it through a hedge and kind of messed it up

only problem is that he lost the keys some time ago and has been driving it unlocked with the ignition barrel all in pieces.

does anyone know how i go about getting new keys for a car that old?
my guess would be my nearest ford dealership, but i was just checking.

i should point out he does actually own the car, he has all the logbook and everything!

thanks!

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sorry, i just realised this is in the wrong place, i guess it should be in relics?

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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 11:11 PM
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Remove the drivers door lock and get the number off of it

But seeing as you'll need an ignition barrel you might as well get sa whole lock set
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Old Sep 24, 2015 | 11:16 PM
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thanks dojj,

it is going to be expensive no matter what....


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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 07:20 AM
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for a rough price

http://www.retrofordinternational.co...set-4967-p.asp

but as that's for the mk2 it might not fit the mk1
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 07:43 AM
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I would just get a new lock set. At that age I guess it won't have any fancy gadgets associated with the locks or ignition, so should be an easy swap. Although you might have fun getting the ignition barrel out.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 07:47 AM
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mk1 sierra a dawdle to do locks on

second hand locks with matching keys though[2 doors/boot/ign-caps are usually same key does all] do £100 plus..!
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 07:48 AM
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wonder how he's getting petrol in though?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 10:42 AM
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all the mk1 sierras i had same key did petrol cap...kinda generic
i think most keys would fit that were a similar shape tbh
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 03:33 PM
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Just been and looked at it, and I am not too sure about it now.

It is full of empty beer cans and rubbish, and the owner thinks the keys might be in the rubbish somewhere.

It had no water in the expansion tank, so I filled it up and started it, it ran OK for a while but the water level didn't drop in the tank. It might have already had plenty of water in the system, but I'm worried the water pump is not working.

It also cut out when it started to get warm and wouldn't idle properly. It is a 1.8 pinto I think, but I'm a bit rusty with old Ford stuff.

There is also alot of bad rot on the drivers side rear arch, and the sill has been badly repaired on that side too.

Oh and the owner said he thinks the clutch us on it's way out.

All in all, it's pretty rough. But it is a manual rwd car and I only need it to last 1 year. And it is only 50 notes.....

Should I go for it?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 04:00 PM
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Don't walk away from it, RUN away and don't look back.
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 04:15 PM
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50 quid is a bargain mate. I'll give you 50 quid for the bootlid if its rot free
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 05:29 PM
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Break it and weigh it in. You will make a few beer tokens to buy full beer cans.
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even the trims/clips are god dust for sierra owners-rs and otherwise
£50 well worth
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 06:31 PM
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whats the going rate for a scrap car these days?
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
whats the going rate for a scrap car these days?
not a lot according to my mate in scarborough, the price has dropped loads. Example - his a3 would be about £20 a ton I think he said for scrap
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 10:24 PM
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It does sound more like a parts car to me..
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Old Sep 25, 2015 | 11:59 PM
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scrap man offered him £25 to take it away, which is why i said id give him 50.

normally i would just walk away from it, but my current runabout is on its last legs, and i'd rather spend the money on a sierra than a knackered peugeot partner van.

you can still cover rotten arches with duct tape for an MOT , right?
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Old Sep 26, 2015 | 12:39 AM
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if it has the type 9 gearbox, that alone could sell for up to £200!
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