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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 03:21 PM
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I'm building a 2.1 zetec turbo very soon ..and going to use a rs turbo
I'm aiming for 300 -350 bhp at the very most ..but it's going to be a all round car one I can take the Mrs to the coast and one I've got anglessey 30 mins away so I can do track days ..so what's the modern way these days of making one handle ok ...as I've not owned one for over 12 years ..

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Coilovers, poly bush to start
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:11 PM
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Thought so but what brands are people using these days on coilovers etc mate
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:34 PM
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Rs1600i front anti roll bar conversion, poly bushes, rose joint tca's, gaz coilovers is what I'd do.
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 04:35 PM
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Thought so but what brands are people using these days on coilovers etc mate
i got a custom set from leda
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Not sure on the best makes anymore I've not touched my mk4 cab in ten years
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Thanks lads ..I'm not after it being too smooth but is it possible to have a all rounder for coast trips with the mrs to track days ?

List so far ....
Coilovers
Rose joined TCas
Poly bushed
Rs1600i cross member .

What's best wheel size to run also .
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16's for a nicer drive than 17's
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How was it with the 24's ????
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How was it with the 24's ????
I don't have any 24's lol
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What brakes you going for Mat. For a cheap brake upgrade go for st17O front discs and calipers or mk3 mondeo calipers.
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24s ? Am I missing something here
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24s ? Am I missing something here
Yeah Ric on here photoshopped me a pic of my car that looked like it was on massive rims lol

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Oh lol ..big rims are nice ..but it's got to drive alright first ..think I'll go 16s on this turbo
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 07:50 PM
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Link bars on the rear mate stop the rear end steering under heavy braking
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 08:13 PM
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MEF style link bars like Muz made are about as good as they get mate. Drop him a message I'm sure he'll give you dome advice.
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Thanks mate ..I'll have a look into those also
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 08:48 PM
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I wouldn't use coil overs for road use unless they are custom ones, all the ones I've ever tried in an escort have been fucking awful on anything other than billiard table smooth Tarmac.

Your Missis will hate them for sure.

If your doing a bit of fast road work then a bit of suspension travel and a bit of roll are not a bad thing! The rs1600i arb/tie rod set up will be a good base but my advise is not to go track spec and have it too hard for the road if you actually want to use it on the roads ����
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Tbh I'm blessed here that the roads are really new and smooth .I don't want it full track ..just a compromise down the middle if there is such a thing ...thanks for info mate ..I'll try source a 16i arb.
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With my Gaz golds I had a custom valve pack as it was for road use so less harsh ask the manufacturer you intend to use
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Koni adjustables were the big thing back in the day, can they still be purchased new?
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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 09:19 PM
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They were I had them back in 1999 .id really like a good compromise on a good set of coilovers now ..modern
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most stuff has has been covered but stiffen it up by way of bracing/strut braces. i would suggest corner weighting but on a road car i reckon its a waste of time. a focus rs box will have a decent diff , that will aid getting the power down and be a tough old unit. ps i think 16's are the optimum wheel size that drive relavley nice and allow decent stoppers
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I'm going focus Rs box ..thanks mate
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Gaz coilovers are decent, just choose the right springs often springs are so short to get the lows but not enough coil to allow comfort.
Poly bushes are a given, tighter arb also.
As for brakes, you can fit focus rs 4 pots, or for cheap alfa gtv or fiat coupe ones, justneed to knock up an adaptor.
Seeing you are going mtx, perfect time to canter the engine forwards as the blacktops were intended. Will give more room for turbo down low and pull top of engine towards fire wall better.
Loads of wasted space under inlet otherwise, see crazycages mk3 fiesta for how it can look.

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+1 for 16's with a decent sidewall
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Originally Posted by xr2wishy
Gaz coilovers are decent, just choose the right springs often springs are so short to get the lows but not enough coil to allow comfort.
Poly bushes are a given, tighter arb also.
As for brakes, you can fit focus rs 4 pots, or for cheap alfa gtv or fiat coupe ones, justneed to knock up an adaptor.
Seeing you are going mtx, perfect time to canter the engine forwards as the blacktops were intended. Will give more room for turbo down low and pull top of engine towards fire wall better.
Loads of wasted space under inlet otherwise, see crazycages mk3 fiesta for how it can look.
Cheers mate ..crazycage will be making my inlet and exhaust manifolds and probably the drive shafts I think ....so ill have a word about canter the engine .

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+1 for 16's with a decent sidewall
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You can fit 324mm discs and brembos under 16's, well under some depending on dishing.
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Oh yeah, decent rubber needed.
I know it's obvious, but getting over 300 horses down fwd isn't great, that was my biggest issue for sure.
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Brake wise ill probably find the wheels I like then find a suitable setup ..I've always Had AP'S and I like them so if it's possible ill go that route .

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What's everyone's choice tyre wise these days .
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kuhmo ecsta v70a's on track
heard good things about the nangkang track tyres
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Toyo r1r for road, if still available.
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Old Sep 1, 2015 | 03:25 PM
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I had Koni adjutable and Chasis Dynamics springs in mine - handled like it was glued to the ground. Prob one of the best handling fwd cars ive had - you could just push and push in the bends until your face would stick to the driver side window
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Your obviously not on about a mk4 then ::
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it was a mk4 cabrio - surprised me too aswell as my mate who owned a cab at the time and he even commented how it holds the road better than his mates 4wd cossie.

honestly i could really push that car in the bends, had good quality rubber on too so i guess that helped. Only ever had the back end step out on me once when i had lost my phone and was hurrying back to where i had last left it.
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Sweet as mate ...think I'm going to look into some height adjustable coilovers ..and look into spring settings
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As a road car.

I loved mine with factory shocks and eibach springs
Everything was polybushed with front strut brace

Was on 17's back then and I always thought it handled well

Brake wise you can get 335 ap's behind 16's (motorsport style wheel) as this is what I have at the mo
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Originally Posted by R4N SS
it was a mk4 cabrio - surprised me too aswell as my mate who owned a cab at the time and he even commented how it holds the road better than his mates 4wd cossie.

honestly i could really push that car in the bends, had good quality rubber on too so i guess that helped. Only ever had the back end step out on me once when i had lost my phone and was hurrying back to where i had last left it.

That's interesting couldn't have had much power mate because as soon as the front wheels break traction straight on you go its what I hated about my s2 nearlly binned it on a few occassions due to understeer the cabs are even worse I think your making it up or it was a bonus or a tennis
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Originally Posted by smiley
That's interesting couldn't have had much power mate because as soon as the front wheels break traction straight on you go its what I hated about my s2 nearlly binned it on a few occassions due to understeer the cabs are even worse I think your making it up or it was a bonus or a tennis

I did think the same tbh ..
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