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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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Hi can anyone tell me is there an adaptor you can get to plug the omex Ecu into the cosworth management loom on my escort or am I best just cutting the end off and wiring in
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 08:40 PM
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Why on earth would anybody want to get rid of cossie management?

Joking aside unless you had a brand new cossie engine loom I would start again with a fresh loom.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 08:44 PM
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Because I have had it mapped and am not happy with the power that it's got and was told it should have as I have just had it on the dyno so looking to change to something I don't have to trave 4-5 hours to have mapped
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Are you happy with its performance disregarding a dyno reading?
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 06:15 AM
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Well we always want them faster don't we
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The management you use really doesn't have any effect on what power you make, unless there is a problem with your install and you end up curing that by proxy, I would at least get it mapped/setup by someone reputable like MSD (or whoever is close to you) before changing, if you do have issues they may well be able to sort those there and then too.

Fitting a nice new ECU and loom is always good and often comes with many new features, but may well not be needed in your case

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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 06:49 PM
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That's the problem I have just had it set up and spent Ł3000+ and that's by a very respected place and it's running well to rich on top end and it's not got what I asked and was told it would have so now I cannot spend more money and travel 5 hours back to him so want out and use omex just don't no if I can just wire strait onto my cosworth loom
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Can omex be configured to work with cossie crank position triggers is another question, or you might need a 36-1 crank trigger.
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Old Aug 23, 2015 | 07:00 PM
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I no that's my main reason for asking lol and can it run my phase plate
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 05:59 AM
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That's the problem I have just had it set up and spent Ł3000+ and that's by a very respected place and it's running well to rich on top end and it's not got what I asked and was told it would have so now I cannot spend more money and travel 5 hours back to him so want out and use omex just don't no if I can just wire strait onto my cosworth loom
Ah I see! Where did you take it, can you really not take it back (I know it's a long drive but you paid good money), but also how do you know it's running rich?
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Can omex be configured to work with cossie crank position triggers is another question, or you might need a 36-1 crank trigger.
If it can (which I don't know) you wouldn't really want to, a 36-1 setup would be more reliable if you are going to the trouble of changing, but then you may as well have a new loom too.... all more money though.
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It's to far to drive I had it recovered there last time and with all that it will be cheeper to just change the management lol and he had the lambda in on the dyno
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Fair enough mate.
Yes that is rich... and also lean! lol If that is two WOT runs then you are risking your engine every time you drive mate?

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Yes tell me about it the spike in the middle is my boost limiter kicking in as it's been set to low
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But looking at the graph if the boost limiter didn't kick in which is my other problem lol it would have been at 10-1 at 3700 rpm which is shocking
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it depends what your budget for ecu is mate because i wouldnt be heading to omex etc id be heading for something alittle more advanced like the syvecs 6 or even the 6 plus.
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The Syvecs is overkill for a CVH, most if not all of the options will remain unused for the average CVH install.

If I were you and you are dead set on changing then sell off the Cossie stuff (I'm sure Jano will buy it back off you) and go with whatever your nearest reputable tuner recommends, that way you have local support in case of problems which lets face it often occur even with the best will in the world, no system is perfect, no installer is perfect and 30 year old Fords are definitely not perfect! lol
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Ok am sending my Ecu down to Blackpool he is going to read the chip and see what he thinks so then will go from there I think
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Originally Posted by jay030787
That's the problem I have just had it set up and spent Ł3000+ and that's by a very respected place and it's running well to rich on top end and it's not got what I asked and was told it would have so now I cannot spend more money and travel 5 hours back to him so want out and use omex just don't no if I can just wire strait onto my cosworth loom
I take it that wasn't Ł3000+ on just Cossie management?

Karl has given probably the best piece of advice above: Go and ask your local tuner what they can support. I'm sure Omex will be in the list. There's no point in having expensive management that only a very small number of people in the country will support at a 5 hour drive away.

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Old Aug 31, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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Ditch the cossie management! It's wank. Leave it on a cosworth. That graph says it all.
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Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:14 AM
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I take it that wasn't Ł3000+ on just Cossie management?

Karl has given probably the best piece of advice above: Go and ask your local tuner what they can support. I'm sure Omex will be in the list. There's no point in having expensive management that only a very small number of people in the country will support at a 5 hour drive away.

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Alot of issues can arise with people using an alien management system and it is also something they can blame as well...
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Who mapped it?
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Originally Posted by jay030787
Ok am sending my Ecu down to Blackpool he is going to read the chip and see what he thinks so then will go from there I think
How are you getting on with this?
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I sent the Ecu to motorsport developments and he removed my boost limiter and sorted some of the maps out and it's flying now
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Old Sep 16, 2015 | 02:28 PM
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Makes a big difference having someone who knows what they are doing look at problems for you, saved a lot of time and money!
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you will need a 36-1 trigger wheel if you want to run omex.

Cossie management is wank compared to Omex.
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Old Sep 17, 2015 | 06:51 AM
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So, WHO fitted and originally mapped the weber that's on it?
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 04:40 PM
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So, WHO fitted and originally mapped the weber that's on it?
Who's the only tuner that fit's it these days, I'm guessing Jano?
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Old Sep 18, 2015 | 07:34 PM
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Jano uses paul hills don't he


A webber ecu isnt wank or shite its the operator that's wank or shite ! Fact most are using ahmed files and don't have a fucking clue on how to trim them and get them right and will work on any 4 pot car with the correct trigger and sensors ect BUT seems a pricey complicated way to use it plus they are getting old now so going with a modern ecu could be a better idea
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