ive seen series1 rst escorts escort cosworths for 30k upwards and some rs models for some eye watering prices lately i know about supply and demand and only worth what ppl will pay, the rsoc value there own club members cars that obv helps but are rs cars being bought by collectors these days for investment rather than by ford lovers in general who would prob use them more frequently rather than storing them away as ornaments? fair play if thats what you want to spend money on great and great for sellers, some escort cosworth owners are adament they will get 80k plus for theres one day,what do think of values,prices nowadays what wuld you pay for certain cars?
iv got a mk2 frs just looking for opinions guys just wondering what normal ford lovers in general think? is prices ruining the rs scene or not?

 

As much as i love Escort cossies I don't think they will ever reach 80k or not in most of our lifetimes anyway.

 

As you say supply and demand defines prices. I suspect with 'retro' now being cool again prices will rise on the back of that, but the pool of decent cars is ever diminishing. That means supply drops - demand outstrips supply = prices go up.

Who knows what'll happen as time goes on - mk1's are now fetching loony money, RS500's at Ł65k plus....

 

A lot of wealthy people are buying cars for investments only , they will be stored away, never driven and re-emerge in years to come with even higher prices. Others will become trailer queens to be seen a couple of times a year to pick up yet another trophy. In my opinion fast fords were built to be enjoyed and driven not to become money making museum exhibits.

 

Remember an RS500 is no long a fast car by todays standard. If I had one it would be stored away as an investment. Buy a Focus RS if you want to tank around. Even an old Saff like mine is not the car to blast around in on a daily basis its 25 years old & needs to be treated as such. If you are in a financial position that you can destroy an investment like an RS500 by all means do that but that's rather silly don't you think.

 

Just because something is at a certain price it doesn't mean it will sell for that, most folk will bullshit to save face or try and look billy big balls

Storing cars for future investment will have an affect on the scene but so can many other factors

 

My mate just got payed out 20 grand on his small turbo escort that got nicked and it had high mileage.

 

Last May at Simply Ford day at Beaulieu I met a guy with a nice looking White RS500. On speaking to him he told me he had owned it for 12 years and it had done 103,000 miles. He used it regularly and told me he loves driving it.His choice but as he said he bought it to have fun in not as an investment. I must say I was impressed by his attitude.

 

I can beat that lol. My brother rang me mid last year as he had just done a windscreen on an e reg Sierra for an old guy. When he got there the guy told him it was an old car that he don't use much so he will get it out the barn! It was a black rs500 with factory option leather. My brother said it was a right state looked like it had never been cleaned! The guy had had it from new. Story was his company built a ford dealership and after he got two top of the range sierras at a discount price. The other he said was a white one which was his wife's but that got smashed up. Chris said he said to the guy do you know what that is and how much it's worth and the guy laughed and said his son keeps saying that but it's his car and not going any wear

 

Just drive the fooking things Imo MORE problems occur when they're not and they love cold air too .

 

100% agree, cool temps cossies love em, and they dont like being layed up. On a serious note, cars are only worth what people are willing pay, loads of cars advertised for silly money on certain sites for months now and they just aint selling.

 

defo agree that these cars were made to be enjoyed and not stored away, i also dont agree with the prices and valuing either as its getting ridiculous, the escort cosworth forum being a main player in over valuing and clique like regarding there prices and low mileage,they dont like folk questioning there price and car values , investors not cosworth lovers or they would drive them in my opinion , them and the rsoc seem to get away with valuing there own vehicles which clearly over prices them but there looking after themselves in the hope a dafty pays the price there asking which alot will do 15k for a series1 rsturbo escort which pushes the prices up even more i just think it ruins the ford scene when people buy for investment rather than enjoyment but my opinion

 

rs owners are too tied up with their values these days imo.


they were originally the sports hatch/saloon car for the everyday working man ,and thats how they should stay

 

Used to love driving my Cossie on cold, foggy mornings.

They love them conditions

 

I am glad to see there are other people out there who think the same way as me. The Ford scene is in danger of becoming an exclusive rich mans club only!

 

What a great story, love it!

 

On a really cold day I reckon you get at least 10% extra poke free of charge !!!

 

if you had a low mileage example your opinion would differ, because then ud want the prices to rise etc.

 

I agree with you if you are buying cars as purely money investments but a lot of people buy cars to drive and enjoy them.

 

Rs cars were made to be driven hard, Not stored away and trailered to a show once a year.
When they break, You upgrade them!

Prices of some cars are just crazy though, Mk1/2Escorts are gone mental!

 

i buy my cars to drive and not store away
















When they work that is

 

But some are lucky enough to have cars to store and others to drive so why would you want to drive a standard car with low mileage when you have another sat beside it thats got some mods etc

People buy cars for diffrent reasons.. if everyone drove them the prices wouldnt rise, which means you wouldnt be able to spend 10k on a cossie drive it a few years and still make some.cash or break even.

 

I agree cars are better driven, but, low miler mint original cars are also something to treasure.

People that can afford to have these cars and just take them out and enjoy them now and then and they feel like they did they rolled out of the factory - something impossible to recreate imo and a rare thing. If everyone drove them then there would be none of these rare original beasts about. Just look at the Bonkers collection.

 

i agree with alot of the sentiment on here, the ideal ford petrol head would have 2 RS's one to be lovingly polished hermeitcally sealed away like the day it was built then only rolled out for special occasions, the other to be heavily modified, covered in mud and road salt, and given a hammering whenever the urge takes you.....

i only have a single garage.....

 

I guess with the 7 cars you have you do see it from a different point of view but you still dont seem to understand that a cars value is not the most important thing to lots of Ford enthusiasts. I would never get back the money I have spent on my car if I sold it after more than 20 years of ownership but it does not concern me at all. The enjoyment I have had in it and continue to have is whats important to me.

 

I can totally see why people just hide them away, and In terms of an ecos reaching 80k? I can see that happening within the next 5 years. There was a Monte up for sale 3 years ago for 19k, the same car (or near enough identical) sold for 40k recently.
Personally I think with a modified car you can strike a balance between keeping mileage down but still using it.
Standard examples with low miles are usually bought to enjoy from an ownership and aesthetics point of view, with no intention of racking up miles. If I had loads of cash then I would probably do both.

 

if you want prices and values to rise then alot of folk have there cars for the wrong reasons or there collectors, these cars were never about investment but certain registars of car clubs that value there and clubs cars are pushing prices out of reach for normal working class ford enthusiasts to own one enjoy it use it alot more often than storing for investment with overpricing them,forgetting they paid far less for the car in the first place i just think the prices off escos in peticular is pathetic getting and is just greed due to demand, so just dont pay the asking price untill its a price your happy with, rs cars and escos were made to be used and enjoyed not put in storage for financial gain imop

 

You can sell a car for whatever its worth, if it's risen cos you've looked after it while more are taken off the road, then why not enjoy that increase in value, when you next move I'm pretty sure you'll sell your house for whatever market value dictates, rather than what you paid for it

 

Couldnt agree more.

I think alot of people just like to brag about owning a rs and they dont use them. I know a lad like this. He has a load of fords but there all need work doing to them.

 

I'll never drive mine all the time I couldn't afford too lol even as it was before building the new engine it would about a tener just to drive it up the road for a little blast lol

 

Thats the compromise you have to make with the power you are now running, it aint never going to do many mpg but I bet it will put a big smile on your face when you do take it out.Can I ask , are you worried about how much it has cost you or if you will get it back at a later date if you ever sold it or have you done it for your enjoyment only?

 

It is a lot of money but id all ready spent a lot on it in the past getting it to wear it was before I damaged my engine. It dose and it doesn't worry me. It's a hobby and I take enjoyment from it but on the other hand I do know it's wasted money. But I could be gone in 4 years so why not enjoy your money lol. I'd like to say I'll never sell it but who knows what's round the corner. I know as long as I'm into fast cars I'll have it.

 

for me the high prices over valuing and storing away for years is destroying the fast ford scene as alot of folk cant afford these cars and there wasted stored away for financial gain
escort cosworths are a big issue with demand however alot of there owners need to get a life all they care about is value and hardly anyone drives theres, escort cosworth was made as a hot hatch to be used and never worth the asking prices these days but thats down to registars valuing them, folk paying high prices with demand, has anyone seen the cliqueness off the esco owners forum lol its laughable what they demand these cars to be worth and need a life
what would you pay for a esco? what do you think of the prices?

 

Good way to look at it! Will you be taking your car to Simply Ford in Beaulieu in May? I will be taking mine ,be nice to meet up and have a look at your car.

 

The prices are rising so much, as I have said if we are not careful the Classic Ford scene will become an exclusive club for wealthy people only. The fun and enjoyment part of owning and driving a fast Ford is getting taken over by people who are only interested in how much money they will be able to make in years to come.

 

As said by many RS owners on the RSOC site and the Escort Cos site, prices of all RS models are what they are - get over it.

 

They were made to be driven hard 25 years ago & don't compare with modern performance cars. Lots have been scrapped & the ones left will go up in value.


Doubt mine will see many roads anymore, im interested in the limits the YB can be tuned too not charging around the roads like a teenager. People have these old car for many reasons mines a money pit not an investment.