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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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I've been reading all day about these van aaken turbo conversions.. I'm not looking to be talked out of it, I'm just suffering with a few initial problems. Even though these seem to be made to fit ka's, do they do them for the 1.3 fiesta also? Seeing as the exhaust is in two different places on the two engines I'm stuck to wondering. My other problem also.. If not the biggest problem, is actually finding the turbo conversion kit. I can't seem to find any type of contact for them. Anyone any ideas? Cheers.
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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 09:29 PM
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They are the same engine in the fiesta and ka aren't they? Seriously, don't bother. I'm sure these were about years and years ago and were pretty crap then.
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didn't they add all of about 30 hp for Łthousands?! just buy a more tunable car from the off.
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They are the same engine in the fiesta and ka aren't they? Seriously, don't bother. I'm sure these were about years and years ago and were pretty crap then.

Plugs and cat on the back of ka dura tec blocks, they're on the front with fiesta endura blocks..

And as I said, not interested in being talked out of it, just wanna know how to acquire one.
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didn't they add all of about 30 hp for Łthousands?! just buy a more tunable car from the off.
Got my heart set on a few things for the endura, I said I wasn't looking to being talked otherwise, just wanna know where to go, as said above.
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They did the kit for the early ka,with the exhaust at the front. Are van aaken still around?
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Think the only option now, is to make your kit
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 05:29 AM
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If you want to set your car on fire there's no better way than a Van Aaken kit

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Originally Posted by thelumness
Got my heart set on a few things for the endura, I said I wasn't looking to being talked otherwise, just wanna know where to go, as said above.
OK fella, if you wanna pour cash down the drain feel free
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 06:11 AM
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I had a van aaken Ka! As said it was for the endura engine.
Turbo kits for them are now rather rare!
Won't deny it was a good laugh! Just before I removed it I was
running it at just over a bar if boost, the chatter was like nothing I've ever heard haha
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Just convert to RS turbo then you can get to ~160bhp easy and all it takes is a bit of wiring and one custom engine mount.

Or any other non shit engine.
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They're a brilliant way to blow your car up! So if you want an unreliable and still slow piece of shit, that inevitably blows up, then try and get one!
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Try these guys 08457 90 90 90
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As said.. Not looking to be talked out of it, I'm aiming for something different, why bother following in the same footsteps as everyone else? Wanted a 1.6 8v Kent engine but I can't find any, at all.
In all honesty, if you're all gonna be sarcastic about the money I need to spend or what the aftermath is, then don't bother commenting, I'm looking for help to find one, not help to destroy my crazy little dream to make something unique.
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Originally Posted by Hobomassiv
Just convert to RS turbo then you can get to ~160bhp easy and all it takes is a bit of wiring and one custom engine mount.

Or any other non shit engine.
And the Kent engines are practically the most bulletproof thing ford made.. So how is that shit?
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Originally Posted by bigchez
OK fella, if you wanna pour cash down the drain feel free
Will do, cheers.
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Originally Posted by thelumness
As said.. Not looking to be talked out of it, I'm aiming for something different, why bother following in the same footsteps as everyone else? Wanted a 1.6 8v Kent engine but I can't find any, at all.
In all honesty, if you're all gonna be sarcastic about the money I need to spend or what the aftermath is, then don't bother commenting, I'm looking for help to find one, not help to destroy my crazy little dream to make something unique.
All the Van Aaken turbo conversion essentially is, is a kit that bolts a turbo to an engine that cannot take even a sniff of boost sensibly without eventually giving up the ghost hence being low pressure. If you are intent on turbocharging it then all you have to do is bolt on any turbo you can find with a suitable manifold, it doesn't have to be Van Aaken.
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Originally Posted by thelumness
And the Kent engines are practically the most bulletproof thing ford made.. So how is that shit?
Low power, a design from half a century ago and poor fuel economy, that's pretty shit. Also a poorly designed bolt on turbo kit won't be 'unique', if you want that, you're better off making your own turbo setup.
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Low power, a design from half a century ago and poor fuel economy, that's pretty shit. Also a poorly designed bolt on turbo kit won't be 'unique', if you want that, you're better off making your own turbo setup.
He was referring to the engine being shit rather than the kit, not bothered about the kit, already got my heart set but no-one can call the endura engine shit seeing as it would come out better off than a cockroach in a nuclear blast.
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Old Jun 13, 2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by pani_k
All the Van Aaken turbo conversion essentially is, is a kit that bolts a turbo to an engine that cannot take even a sniff of boost sensibly without eventually giving up the ghost hence being low pressure. If you are intent on turbocharging it then all you have to do is bolt on any turbo you can find with a suitable manifold, it doesn't have to be Van Aaken.
And what about the oil feed? Only wanted a van aaken one because its a ready set kit, happy to pay for the kit since it would have everything ready.
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Originally Posted by thelumness
He was referring to the engine being shit rather than the kit, not bothered about the kit, already got my heart set but no-one can call the endura engine shit seeing as it would come out better off than a cockroach in a nuclear blast.
So was I. I've seen them broken though, even at standard low power. An oil feed is easy, just get the return welded into the sump, or weld it in yourself if you can weld, and run a t-piece on the oil pressure switch for the feed.
But seriously, there are much, much better engines to start with!
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Originally Posted by thelumness
As said.. Not looking to be talked out of it, I'm aiming for something different, why bother following in the same footsteps as everyone else?.
Since when was being different buying an off the shelf generic turbo kit that you just bolt on

they're shit, the engine is shit, just be original or take the heat
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Your all wrong, my mam had a van arken turbo kit installed on her 98 fiesta and it made 200bhp at the wheels and was reliable for 60k miles until she crashed it racing my mate in his stage 3 cossie
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Since when was being different buying an off the shelf generic turbo kit that you just bolt on

they're shit, the engine is shit, just be original or take the heat
You tell me how many fiestas/ka's you see with a turbo on the 1.3? There may be a good reason for not seeing any, but that's exactly why it'll be more original, because no-one does it. Now you're all suggesting the same thing of engine transplants, which have all been done, time and time again, where's the originality in that exactly?
I don't mind constructive criticism, but if everyone is going to try shooting my ideas down for my little 1.3 then why bother? I want help turboing the fiesta. I don't want help looking at age old conversions which have been used again.. And again.. And again!
So unless anyone is going to be helpful in finding a kit, or directing me towards a sight that will help me build a conversion then they may aswell leave the thread.
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Originally Posted by Alps Pacino
Your all wrong, my mam had a van arken turbo kit installed on her 98 fiesta and it made 200bhp at the wheels and was reliable for 60k miles until she crashed it racing my mate in his stage 3 cossie
This is a perfect example of why I want one. And why I want help finding one, not people shooting it down.
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So was I. I've seen them broken though, even at standard low power. An oil feed is easy, just get the return welded into the sump, or weld it in yourself if you can weld, and run a t-piece on the oil pressure switch for the feed.
But seriously, there are much, much better engines to start with!
The only other engine I'd consider is the 1.6 Kent engine. I want an 8v. Or whether or not I can fit am xr2 lump in.
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Originally Posted by thelumness
You tell me how many fiestas/ka's you see with a turbo on the 1.3? There may be a good reason for not seeing any,
There is a good reason indeed, they're shite.

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This is a perfect example of why I want one. And why I want help finding one, not people shooting it down.
Sarcasm is lost on some...

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The only other engine I'd consider is the 1.6 Kent engine. I want an 8v. Or whether or not I can fit am xr2 lump in.
Why do you only want a gash engine though? Why not start with a decent one and make it better?
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Originally Posted by thelumness
This is a perfect example of why I want one. And why I want help finding one, not people shooting it down.
Pretty sure he was taking the piss mate

If you want a pretty unique turbo kit buy this http://www.xrtwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=111015

Its a complete kit ready to bolt on and pretty rare.

Grant
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Originally Posted by grant_xr
Pretty sure he was taking the piss mate

If you want a pretty unique turbo kit buy this http://www.xrtwo.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=111015

Its a complete kit ready to bolt on and pretty rare.

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thought 200 was a bit unrealistic..
i havent got the money atm, just looking to source one out.. kind inbetween jobs but want to know what to aim for when im back into it all. Theres a guy who i used to work with who did rally cars back in the day, i think he knows how to build a kit.. would be nice to know where to go or at least what kind of turbo is best to.. create one.
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Originally Posted by thelumness
You tell me how many fiestas/ka's you see with a turbo on the 1.3? There may be a good reason for not seeing any, but that's exactly why it'll be more original, because no-one does it. Now you're all suggesting the same thing of engine transplants, which have all been done, time and time again, where's the originality in that exactly?
I don't mind constructive criticism, but if everyone is going to try shooting my ideas down for my little 1.3 then why bother? I want help turboing the fiesta. I don't want help looking at age old conversions which have been used again.. And again.. And again!
So unless anyone is going to be helpful in finding a kit, or directing me towards a sight that will help me build a conversion then they may aswell leave the thread.
Are you mad? You keep saying you don't want a conversion everyone's done before but you want a van Aaken which was done to death 10 years ago!

The reason there's none left is because they either melted a piston or set on fire.

They are truly fucking shit
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So was I. I've seen them broken though, even at standard low power. An oil feed is easy, just get the return welded into the sump, or weld it in yourself if you can weld, and run a t-piece on the oil pressure switch for the feed.
But seriously, there are much, much better engines to start with!
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Are you mad? You keep saying you don't want a conversion everyone's done before but you want a van Aaken which was done to death 10 years ago!

The reason there's none left is because they either melted a piston or set on fire.

They are truly fucking shit
Mad? Nope. Just making my point. And it's more original now than anything else that people do to their fiestas. I want to be different from the present day changes then if you want to argue my choice of wording. I'm getting annoyed by the fact that I'm trying to be different and you're all judging my choices. None of you are really helping, you're all just telling me what you think is right even though I'm getting tired of repeating how much I've hot my heart set on a turbo for my 1.3. And I say again, I don't care how bad the conversion is, I want one, end of. And I was hoping since you all love fords so much that someone can point me towards one, yet all I've had is sarcastic comments and people shooting the idea down.

If you're not going to help then why are you still here? I'm not changing my mind on the idea.
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If he wishes to piss money up the wall only later to be quite disappointed, let him
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Originally Posted by zetec-Sam
There is a good reason indeed, they're shite.



Sarcasm is lost on some...



Why do you only want a gash engine though? Why not start with a decent one and make it better?
Because everyone's choice of decent is an se lump. A puma lump or an RSt lump. Done over again and again, I want different.
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Originally Posted by CrOwSoN15
If he wishes to piss money up the wall only later to be quite disappointed, let him
I wish everyone would listen to this. My money, my car, my choice. All I wanted was to be pointed in the right direction to source one out.
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Originally Posted by thelumness
And I was hoping since you all love fords so much that someone can point me towards one, yet all I've had is sarcastic comments and people shooting the idea down.
We love Fords, not the shit engines they occasionaly produced
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ok ... calm down ...
the op wants one, you lot have given many reasons as to why it is not really worth doing,
if you really want one then its your choice, however I do tend to feel the chance of finding one will be rather hard.
think it was some audi turbo, tbh would be easier to get someone to make you something for your car rather than trying to source a second hand kit from yester year ...
or email van aaken and ask if they can make you one, if you google hard enough its amazing what you can find...
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Turbo the engine by all means, the problem is the Van Aaken kit, I'm telling you to help, if you fit that kit you will end up with your car on fire it's downright shit and dangerous
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If you really must turbo the crappy 1.3, then get a t2/t25 or something around those lines, find a friendly welder, and make your own kit, and run it properly with mappable management. As above, the Van Akken kits are a waste of time and are borderline dangerous, the best outcome will be you blow it up.

We suggested other engines to try and help, you'll be lucky to get near 100bhp with a turbo'd Endura, yet I know of 1.6 Zetec SE's running up to 200bhp on standard internals!

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if you want to be different buy a smashed up golf gttdi transplant the engine and wiring into your car get it mapped and enjoy 400ib/ft of torque for half the price of turbocharging the original abismal engine
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Turbo the engine by all means, the problem is the Van Aaken kit, I'm telling you to help, if you fit that kit you will end up with your car on fire it's downright shit and dangerous
Now I don't remember you using the dangerous word before, just the shit bit. I can improve on the shit bit, but when you say dangerous you make me wonder.
I know a guy who can build a kit, I used to work with him. If building one is safer then it shall be done. Probably save some coin too.

Now unless anyone else has got any other engine swap ideas that don't I involve a se or a puma, I'd happily hear you out. Otherwise I'm gonna do some research on the turbo options I've been given.
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