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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Default Cutting out after 4 or 5 secs - main fuel pump?

Hi everyone....I've joined up on this forum after reading up on a similar older thread on here while searching for the problem in this post's title. I'm now on my third Mondeo, which I've had for about 5yrs, it's a 2002 TDDI with about 130k on the clock, and up until now it's been great.

The other day, it just conked out as I (luckily) parked up outside my house. I turned it over and it started up straight away...but died again after a few seconds - it now does this every time

The AA towed it to a local garage on Monday (11th Feb) and in the meantime I'd done a bit of googling, and the lift pump seemed to get mentioned a few times as to the possible cause. I've just rang them to see what's happening with it and the guy said it was the main fuel pump that was gone. I mentioned I'd read it could be the lift pump, but he said "it doesn't have one on these..it's all in one thing" ?? Is he talking through his other end, or what?? I don't know the first thing about fixing cars so he could well be feeding me some BS!!

For what the car's now worth, it'll mean scrapping it if he's right, it's not worth spending mega-bucks on it (which I'll have to because it'll have to go to main ford dealer to be done!)

Appreciate some advice here please guys

Thanks a lot
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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There might be one if it's a DI as the fuel is not pressurized as much as a CI , but I am just guessing!

However, these engine are infamous for injector problems, although this is on the CI'S I think, did he not scan it for any fault codes logged?

Martin
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 02:57 PM
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Lift pump on the TDDI feeding main HP fuel pump / distributor. No lift pump on TDCI - fuel pulled through by main HP fuel pump.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 03:05 PM
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could be an number of things pump on its way out the immobiliser and chipped key by sounds of it to me its injecter pump
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 03:44 PM
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Thanks for all the replies.....

Originally Posted by martysmartie
There might be one if it's a DI as the fuel is not pressurized as much as a CI , but I am just guessing!

However, these engine are infamous for injector problems, although this is on the CI'S I think, did he not scan it for any fault codes logged?

Martin
All he said when I spoke to him was it wasn't good news....the fuel pump's knackered and said something about some wires being exposed a bit where the loom enters the pump!!

Originally Posted by Cosnada
Lift pump on the TDDI feeding main HP fuel pump / distributor. No lift pump on TDCI - fuel pulled through by main HP fuel pump.
Definitely the Duratec 2L TDDI (115bhp model)

Originally Posted by escortmk3rwd
could be an number of things pump on its way out the immobiliser and chipped key by sounds of it to me its injecter pump
That's something else I'd read so I tried the wife's key....same result though!
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by martysmartie
There might be one if it's a DI as the fuel is not pressurized as much as a CI , but I am just guessing!

However, these engine are infamous for injector problems, although this is on the CI'S I think, did he not scan it for any fault codes logged?

Martin
Apparently, the code reported is P0231 - Fuel pump secondary circuit low!
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:12 AM
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If there are "exposed wires" I'd be looking at that as the first culprit, rather than the actual pump.

The TDDI does have a lift pump, it's the TDCi that doesn't. If the garage doesn't know that it wouldn't give me much confidence in their abilities.
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