https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...heel-boss.html

i've bought load of parts through PF and never had a problem like this before.
i never got the full refund he promissed for the pectel board\parcel that was lost. Any ideas how i can get my money back.?

Manoj.

 

He has stated he will give you a refund today has this been done? Have you sent him your details?

 

How did you pay him ?? dont tell me pay pal as a gift
theres stickys all over this site saying dont pay like that,also there is warning and advcie on HOW to buy and sell correctly to avoid things like your now experiencing.
you only have yourself to blame
read this it may help next time https://passionford.com/forum/ford-r...dividuals.html

 

He paid for this item over a year ago,

November 2011, I've messaged the user

 

November 2011 I waited 8 days before I started a witch hunt over sam_samz who has now repaid me in full

 

paid via paypal as gift.. and wish i never had.

He gave me assurance (have the pm's and texts) that he would pay the full ammount back and he never did. He told me when he got his post office payment for which he insured a 100 item for 40.. why feck do that.

So when i see him post on here selling parts again, i'm gona give hell. He's got the paypal address & my address for the delivery, numerious text messages (when he wouldnt answer the phone) and pm's with details.. just a tospot scammer.

take note for other who buy stuff from him.

Manoj.

 

f he does not reply to you with a refund within the next 24hrs he will be banned from this site

 

Pete,
that ok for you say, It's not your fecking money is it.
Being an Ex-Trader, im sure you've sold loads of parts (and not just to me).. lol
but it would be unfair of me to say "it's was your own fault" when you take someones word and expect parts to turn up or payment to arrive and it never does.

The only real mistake i made was to trust this tosser and expect the part to actually arrive that i paid for..

Manoj

 

thanks mate,
for that i would be grateful.

Cheers,
Manoj

 

your right its not my money,hence why i popsted buying and selling guidelines to help others,follow the guidelines then both the buyer an seller cant go wrong.
if a seller dosnet cover the cost of there item sent its there problem but if the buyer dosent insist on insurenace and a tarcking number its also there fault,if you see what I mean

 

Banning users really does not help anyone, as it simply cuts off the only form of contact people have?

Why not:

1) Ban the user from the traders section to prevent them selling/buying.
2)Enforce a DO NOT BUY OR SELL WITH THIS MEMBER signature with a thread link, so other users have the information they need to make a decision if they want to deal with them.

 

We need a system on here of some way of warming people from scammers ...

Hence a message under sig or some attachment .

 

hence why buyers "should" get the sellers contact details name address landline tel number.
I wouldnt buy a screw off anyone if didnt have there details.as to banning,its the only way to stop them using the forum,they have held money back on purpose knowing they have done wrong,so they dont deserve to use this site

 

banning is not the best option, not while the dispute is ongoing IMO

the mods could edit the persons user title, to "under investigation" or similar. then remove the users ability to edit it. that would be easier to do than the signature if i remember the way this version of vbullitin works.

 

Why not have a "Disputes Section" below the For sale sections where disgruntled buyers (and sellers) can air their grievances about a transaction.

This can then be used for each party to communicate and will let others decide if they want to buy or sell to an individual.

The problem with these things is there are always two sides to every story, and you very rarely hear both.

Creating a thread in the "Disputes" Section should only be considered after all other forms of communication have failed.

Just an idea.

 

In future do what I do.

If someone requests paypal "gift" to avoid fee's. Just add the fee's on top for them. Its only like 2.9% and that way your protected.
Also, offering to pay the fee's will also force most scammers to back out of the sale.

 

Perfect i would say

 

I always give people the option of adding the fees or paying as a gift

 

some people on here i'll happily pay as a gift. as you know you won't get messed about

all the others get paid for goods

 

agter my latest cock up I will only ever pay as goods or collect

 

at the end of the day some people have the best intentions and don't deliver, some are just out to get as much coin for nothing.
method of payment and tracked delivery mean very little to these folks.
i have paid and been paid via paypal gift several times and not let anyone down or been let down.
trust is a dangerous thing, nothing is guaranteed sadly.

on another site and he was a member on here too once, i sent an ecu for checking, the misses didn't send it recorded and he claimed it didn't arrive, this was as i had found a fault but couldn't fix for a fellow forum member. so i sent it off to someone i had dealt with loads of times, i ended up paying for a replacement ecu out of my own pocket, but later discovered this bloke screwed over his relatives for cash and many others around the same time.
so i end with trust no one, if you do have good contact details or a way to get your money back then proceed at caution.

 

this is the PM I got back from him when i told him mto pay or be banned


"Ban me ?? I have done all I can. I will stand by my decision "

now its up to you now mate if you want me to bann him,I have m,ade hima new siggy warning people of his actions

 

Same as mate ..

 

a new siggy warning others would be the best option i think.

 

That is a great idea, only removed with proof of payment etc

Surely this can be done

Mike

 

Pete, his signature isn't showing anything yet?

 

Pete,
i've had a think about this and agree with others, can this be done?
thanks for your help with changing the sign & also thanks to others for thier comments.

1, Ban the user from the traders section to prevent them selling/buying.?
2, Enforce a DO NOT BUY OR SELL WITH THIS MEMBER signature with a thread link?
3, Change the users ID to reflect this user should not be trusted.?

thx,
Manoj

 

thats the prolem he can remove it,which hes done,easiest just to bann the prick

 

what a joker as surely a full refund is what he can do and that will be a end of it

 

Totally agree with that..!

 

After all that he has removed it himself??? What a twat, worth a ban now for being a thieving coont basically and standing by his actions.

Manoj- Learn from it, as i cant see you getting the refund you deserve.

 

ban me what ripping off prick

 

Iam going to post bthis thread in the mods room for admin attention to see what can be done about wankers who do this

 

Hence a message under sig or some attachment .

 

Thanks Pete.
It looks like all you can do is 'Ban the tosser' and give me his address if anyone has it.. lol

However, can he comeback and register again, under another alias.?

thx,
Manoj

 

not a lot else we can do Ive binned every sales advert hes posted,as you say if I bann him he may come back so I think just leave him at least he will be made to look a fool,if you do a bit of seaching on him Iam sure you can come up with an address and then deal with it the proper way
some how I dont think he will be posting on thisw site again
hes in Eltham,looks like James Porter knows him maybe worth a PM

 

With a reply like he did on the other thread saying he would only pay out the insured amount...he's a bellend and wants sorting.imo

 

heres hi number if anyone needs it 07817803605

 

might leave him on and change his user name to "dont buy from me Iam a crook"

 

You could always change his user name ......