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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 04:26 PM
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hi,
quite liked my e46 m3,
got notion for 330d but how quick are they?
see they seem to vary in power 2001 being least but do they all remap to the same?
saw you can get 300bhp and shed loads of torque,how quick would that be?quicker than 300 bhp cossie?
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Get a 530d with a live remap will perform like an m5 to 100 mph
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Old Dec 8, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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cheeers stu,
530 pretty good then,will have look see if any local worth a look,
is that the same engine then?
they quicker than 3 series?
was thinking 3 series would be lighter,
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Ive been looking at 535's as a replacment for my FRS.
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my standard frs got hosed by a 530d not much in it but he had the edge,dunno how hard he tried but i was,lol,
swapped frs for m3 in the end
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530d is a 218bhp engine as standard a 330d is 231bhp.
both remap well, but the 3 series would be quicker as it's lighter and sportier.
the 535d however is a mix of turbo's to get shifting with little lag and the second turbo kicks its arse up the revs, they do remap well also.
i have been eyeing up 330d's as well, and a standard one pretty much keeps up with my 330ci, probably not to the top end, but not far off in terms of acceleration to 100mph.
best just to have a word with James at MSD, his is up for grabs, cheap tax, cheap to run and circa 250bhp.
best buy if you have the dough.
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
Get a 530d with a live remap will perform like an m5 to 100 mph
Does a live map give alot more power than a normal remap then?. I had a mapped 530d and it was fast, but no way was it close to an m5.
The mapped 535d is close to an m5.
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Stu and nick actually did the test, using nicks 330d mapped by us at 300bhp with around 470lb/ft and it was just as fast as stus M5 to 100 mph, there was absolutely nothing in it.
The dervs need a good intercooler to keep the charge temps down to make them work really well.

It amazes me how quick they are, my 320d is around 250bhp with close to 400lb/ft its damn fast to 150mph and its so effortless, awesome cars.
they take all the abuse you can give them, they will sit flat out hour after hour and you still don't need to open the bonnet between services

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I'm fairly sure the E46 330d is 204bhp and similarly with the E39 530d. The early E60 530d engines were 218bhp. Revision in 2005 to 231bhp. E90 330d was 231bhp then in 2009 revised to 245bhp.
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Originally Posted by pani_k
I'm fairly sure the E46 330d is 204bhp and similarly with the E39 530d. The early E60 530d engines were 218bhp. Revision in 2005 to 231bhp. E90 330d was 231bhp then in 2009 revised to 245bhp.
335or 535d are way to go couple of mates got them and they are 350bhp and 550 lbs torque with a remap and fly for a diesel
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
Stu and nick actually did the test, using nicks 330d mapped by us at 300bhp with around 470lb/ft and it was just as fast as stus M5 to 100 mph, there was absolutely nothing in it.
The dervs need a good intercooler to keep the charge temps down to make them work really well.

It amazes me how quick they are, my 320d is around 250bhp with close to 400lb/ft its damn fast to 150mph and its so effortless, awesome cars.
they take all the abuse you can give them, they will sit flat out hour after hour and you still don't need to open the bonnet between services
sounds good,
so can all the 330d's be mapped to that?
at that is it still good on fuel?
starting to like idea of power and half decent mpg,

few e46 330d near by but the newer ones seem basic models and then it 2001's but they look do alot sportier,think they are m-sport or sport?
what year would be best?
54 plate near by hardly any miles and bmw history its a cd but doesnt look to have sat nav or any thing fancy,might try get drive in it
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Sorry thought you meant e60 vs e60 take it Stu's is e39?.
My 530d with MSD remap would stick with e46 m3's once rolling, but the m5 is quite abit faster than the e46 m3.
Would maybe try a 535d next as I don't think the mpg is much different to a 530.
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oh im not sure now,
was e46 i was thinking on,
possible to get 300bhp from them?
how would that compare to m3 e46?
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270bhp & 430 ft lb

Mine is just remapped,decat,blueflame exhaust

Needs a bigger intercooler ideally for more power

Has bmw performance drilled discs all round and ds2500 pads, last set lasted 60k until lipped

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I take it these would scran a few cossies then lol.

How much are the parts for these bms ie discs n pads servicing.
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I take it these would scran a few cossies then lol.

How much are the parts for these bms ie discs n pads servicing.

Brakes standard discs Ł100ish bmw performance Ł250
Pads front Ł45-Ł125 standard or ds2500

Oil service Ł70
Insp Ł180
Insp 2 Ł250-Ł300

330d watch out for
DMF
Lower arms only buy meyle and make sure you poly lower arm trailing bush
Manifolds on 03-05 plates will go and will need replacing

Decat Ł120
Remap Ł250


Good mods are
Braided brake lines and better pads
Remap
Eibach springs Ł120
Intercooler
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Top info there.Bloody shity DMF.
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My DMF a d clutch lasted until 120k I remapped it on 40k

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My sisters boyfriend has a 120d and he is on about getting his remapped and the particulate filter removed.I worried incase his car becomes quicker than my saff cossie lol.
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Old Dec 9, 2012 | 08:34 PM
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my mate had a 535d and 330d both mapped, very impressive for what they are, certainly surprised some evo owners on the way to TOTB one year
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I love upsetting people who think they have awesome quick cars and you breeze past lol
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jasesapphy,thats cool,possible to get 300 bhp then?
how quick is yours?quick as stg1 cossie?
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Yes my sapp started stage 1 It's quicker' torque is really good

It's no stage 3

It's road holding and traction is much better

Runs 265/30/19 rear tyres my sapph ran 225/35/18.

Also rear axle is way better than a sapph

People say 300bhp and 500ft lb is possible.

Needs a good exhaust, down pipe, good intercooler, remap and probably uprated clutch, auto box would shit itself so manual is what you would want.
People say you may need 535d injectors for 300/500 but ask a mapper I am not sure

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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments.
Stu and nick actually did the test, using nicks 330d mapped by us at 300bhp with around 470lb/ft and it was just as fast as stus M5 to 100 mph, there was absolutely nothing in it.
The dervs need a good intercooler to keep the charge temps down to make them work really well.

It amazes me how quick they are, my 320d is around 250bhp with close to 400lb/ft its damn fast to 150mph and its so effortless, awesome cars.
they take all the abuse you can give them, they will sit flat out hour after hour and you still don't need to open the bonnet between services
i ordered one of your intercoolers the other week. i already got a ecotune decat & ordered an allard egr delete. what else will i need for 300bhp (ill be up to see you in the new year for the remap). also whats the next stage past 300bhp & whats required. you have any ideas when the rolling road will be fitted?
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Originally Posted by jaimesdna
i ordered one of your intercoolers the other week. i already got a ecotune decat & ordered an allard egr delete. what else will i need for 300bhp (ill be up to see you in the new year for the remap). also whats the next stage past 300bhp & whats required. you have any ideas when the rolling road will be fitted?

A clutch and DMF if its old




Down the line you will get through prop shaft donuts
I also recommend at a later stage Poly diff mount and rear arm poly
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i heard about dmf & clutches. luckly the last owner fitted new ones sept last year
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Originally Posted by jaimesdna
i heard about dmf & clutches. luckly the last owner fitted new ones sept last year
Good to go then

mine was remapped at 42K, now has 155K
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Originally Posted by jaimesdna
i ordered one of your intercoolers the other week. i already got a ecotune decat & ordered an allard egr delete. what else will i need for 300bhp (ill be up to see you in the new year for the remap). also whats the next stage past 300bhp & whats required. you have any ideas when the rolling road will be fitted?
The power increase will depend on what the std power is, we list a 184 bhp, 204bhp, and 231 bhp variants,

We can still push any of the 3 variants on towards the power you want.

Dyno was supposed to be here by now, but been set back untill feb, although we may have a 2wd one to play with this week.

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Jaesapphy, I`ve got a 330D sport E46 also, whats the big difference in the BMW sports brakes? I`m upgrading soon and just wanted to know, keep hearing people saying about floating discs?
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one thing to remember is that the 330d engines can be remapped beyond the the capabilities of the manual gear box! This is why DMS automotive (Porsche / Mercedes / BMW) tuners will normally limit the torque of their maps (unless you ask them not to) so you don't destroy your gearbox! My 330d is standard and that isn't bad and my mates chipped one would beat a standard M3 between 30 and 110mph!

The M sport suspension is also an option and really good too! I would definitely recommend it if you like to push things a bit with a chipped one!
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I have a 330d M Sport, it's a good car. I don't have to worry about bits falling off my Bm though

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I have a remapped 330d M Sport and wouldn't say that there is a lot in it speed wise againsed my stage 3 Escort Cossie. I don't have to worry about bits falling off my Bm though


TBH my sapph was 370bhp /380ft lb and rear wheel drive, that did feelmore urgent than the BMW, also a 7K rev limit, you have already changed a 4.5K on a bmw lol

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Originally Posted by Brendan
one thing to remember is that the 330d engines can be remapped beyond the the capabilities of the manual gear box! This is why DMS automotive (Porsche / Mercedes / BMW) tuners will normally limit the torque of their maps (unless you ask them not to) so you don't destroy your gearbox! My 330d is standard and that isn't bad and my mates chipped one would beat a standard M3 between 30 and 110mph!

The M sport suspension is also an option and really good too! I would definitely recommend it if you like to push things a bit with a chipped one!
Discs can be a bit noisy with a hard pad (and standard infact), however through country lanes i was experiencing severe brake fad on standard set up.

I fitted these and never one got fade (with DS2500) pads,

In 60-65K which i had them on for, they still ran true and never warped or juddered so i replaced with another set.

There not cheap though, i paid Ł250 a pair

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I've been in a mapped E92 330d with 295bhp and also in a standard E92 330d 231bhp. Both very quick cars, effortless power but not as urgent or exhilarating to drive than a petrol turbo imo. My ST has approx 280bhp and 340ft.lbs of torque and feels a lot more exciting but on the road there probably would not be much in it. Horses for courses however.
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Originally Posted by pani_k
I've been in a mapped E92 330d with 295bhp and also in a standard E92 330d 231bhp. Both very quick cars, effortless power but not as urgent or exhilarating to drive than a petrol turbo imo. My ST has approx 280bhp and 340ft.lbs of torque and feels a lot more exciting but on the road there probably would not be much in it. Horses for courses however.
I know what you mean however, my friend has an ST running 275bhp and 330ft lb, to be honest the 330d ruined it
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Love my mapped 535d.
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I have a standard 07 330d touring as my daily,a few times i have followed the mrs in my 500 and buy the time the 500 is on boost the beemer is gone.I think if the beemer was remapped i would have no chance of keeping up but still know which one i would want to be in
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I have a manual 5 speed 330d 2003 chipped, at 87k now, these cars are rapid for the money, I have done 20k and it has needed nothing other than an inspection 2, would recommend one to anyone
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