Ford Focus (All Models) This forum is for discussion of all things pertaining to the Ford Focus Range that doesnt belong in the seperate ST & RS sections..

Fans don't cut in on focus 02 reg

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 12, 2012 | 07:08 PM
  #1  
mercury grey minter's Avatar
mercury grey minter
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: SOLIHULL (BIRMINGHAM)
Default Fans don't cut in on focus 02 reg

As above,my 2.0l focus fans don,t cut in when hot.if I unplug the temp sensor then the fans cut in .fans work with air con,just not when car is hot.
All help appreciated.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2012 | 12:06 AM
  #2  
IanC's Avatar
IanC
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 617
Likes: 16
From: st helens
Default

How hot is the car tho? Mine come in at 95 degrees c that's on a frs tho
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2012 | 12:19 PM
  #3  
martysmartie's Avatar
martysmartie
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 8,460
Likes: 103
Default

As said, how do you KNOW the fans should be operating?

Martin
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2012 | 12:46 PM
  #4  
pani_k's Avatar
pani_k
PassionFORD Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 5,768
Likes: 0
Default

I had a stepper water temp gauge plumbed into the top hose and mine would cut in generally anything between 98degC-102degC. I've had them cut in as late as 108degC before. I would say anything above 110-115 is the danger area.

EDIT: Zetec engines inherently run warmer than most engines.

Last edited by pani_k; Nov 13, 2012 at 01:03 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 13, 2012 | 04:45 PM
  #5  
Glenn_'s Avatar
Glenn_
Glennvestite
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 62,772
Likes: 1,050
From: Darlington county durham
Default

On the 1.8 and 2ltr engines rhere is a temp sensor next to the battery.Could you not put a bit of wire in to see if they work???
Reply
Old Nov 16, 2012 | 07:14 PM
  #6  
mercury grey minter's Avatar
mercury grey minter
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: SOLIHULL (BIRMINGHAM)
Default

I thought they cut in at 90 .There,s no temp sensor near battery only the diode on the fan shroud.The gauge doesn't move above the centre but engine seems very hot.Will run it upto 98+ and see if it kicks in. Cheers for pointers.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2012 | 04:24 AM
  #7  
Glenn_'s Avatar
Glenn_
Glennvestite
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 62,772
Likes: 1,050
From: Darlington county durham
Default

The 1.8 n 2ltr focuses ive seen have had the sensor next to the battery.A lad from work has a ST170 and he said the other day his fan hardly ever kicks in too.

I take it your getting hot air inside the car.
Reply
Old Nov 17, 2012 | 08:01 AM
  #8  
RichieST's Avatar
RichieST
15K+ Super Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 18,732
Likes: 449
From: Wiltshire
Default

leave it running and see what happens. Don't forget it's got a 2 stage fan, the first one cuts in and is very quiet, if it still gets hotter then the bigger one cuts in.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:42 PM
  #9  
mercury grey minter's Avatar
mercury grey minter
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: SOLIHULL (BIRMINGHAM)
Default

Originally Posted by Glenn_
The 1.8 n 2ltr focuses ive seen have had the sensor next to the battery.A lad from work has a ST170 and he said the other day his fan hardly ever kicks in too.

I take it your getting hot air inside the car.

Yes good heater and car runs fine,I,m asking because when I got the car 4weeks ago someone had wired In a screw in sensor from an early escort to the fan loom .then cable tied it to the battery.if I took plug off screw in sensor and bridged it with wire then the fan would kick in.
I scrapped all the bodged stuff and fitted new sensor which screws in head at the back left of the engine under the alternator.
Ran it upto 90o but fans didn't kick in so will try to run it hotter
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:45 PM
  #10  
botters's Avatar
botters
competant bodger
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 6,234
Likes: 23
From: preston
Default

those screw in sensors attached to the battery casing are standard fit believe it or not
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:46 PM
  #11  
RichieST's Avatar
RichieST
15K+ Super Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 18,732
Likes: 449
From: Wiltshire
Default

Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
Yes good heater and car runs fine,I,m asking because when I got the car 4weeks ago someone had wired In a screw in sensor from an early escort to the fan loom .then cable tied it to the battery.if I took plug off screw in sensor and bridged it with wire then the fan would kick in.
I scrapped all the bodged stuff and fitted new sensor which screws in head at the back left of the engine under the alternator.
Ran it upto 90o but fans didn't kick in so will try to run it hotter
It's supposed to be like that

That's the underbonnet air temperture sensor that will make the fans cut in if it gets too hot. Yes it looks like a bodge, cable tied to the battery box, but that's just how it left the ford production line.

Last edited by RichieST; Nov 18, 2012 at 08:48 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:53 PM
  #12  
mercury grey minter's Avatar
mercury grey minter
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: SOLIHULL (BIRMINGHAM)
Default

Doesn't show up in the Haynes manual wiring diagram.Also there was a fuse that didn't, look factory just bodged in there.And finally the 2 focus 2ltr that I've seen in the scrapyard don,t have it either....
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 08:59 PM
  #13  
RichieST's Avatar
RichieST
15K+ Super Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 18,732
Likes: 449
From: Wiltshire
Default

Some do, some don't, not too sure why. My V plate 1.6 and my 03 ST170 had it. Seriously, it is meant to be there.
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:03 PM
  #14  
RichieST's Avatar
RichieST
15K+ Super Poster!!
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 18,732
Likes: 449
From: Wiltshire
Default

Here's a couple of pics I've dragged off google, you can see the sensor



Reply
Old Nov 18, 2012 | 09:22 PM
  #15  
mercury grey minter's Avatar
mercury grey minter
Thread Starter
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 3,175
Likes: 1
From: SOLIHULL (BIRMINGHAM)
Default

That,s it.A bit of an after thought isn't it.Why does it have a thread.?.???
Oh we'll,looks like I,ll be fitting it back on then.what a load of shit.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
salsheikh
Ford Focus ST Parts for Sale
3
Oct 6, 2019 07:56 PM
Fordmad!
Technical help Q & A
6
Sep 26, 2015 05:24 PM
lukeeboy149
General Car Related Discussion.
4
Aug 22, 2015 04:29 PM
salsheikh
Ford Focus RS Parts for Sale.
0
Aug 20, 2015 12:22 PM
track.focus'd
Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects.
26
Aug 12, 2015 05:53 PM




All times are GMT. The time now is 03:59 PM.